Dima wrote (View Post): | ||
well one thing is to be in opposition and yell that a goverment doesn;t want to be in the EU and another is to be in goverment and to sign a document that would eventually kill half of the East Ukraine industry.... |
sieterayos wrote (View Post): |
He knew what he was getting in to. Everyone knew why Yanukovich wouldn't sign. I strongly suspect the US has pulled a fast one on Germany. If so, ramping up sanctions that will hurt Europe is going to be very difficult. Possibly a serious rift opening between US and German imperialism. |
Dima wrote (View Post): | ||
Looks like Crimea was traded for Syria and soon the US will start to bomb it to help rebels as they are desperate. Israel has already started today. |
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Yes, the Navajo Nation and NE AZ is very rugged. So try for Salt River Res. I have no idea about the Tribal Rules. |
deVastator wrote (View Post): |
Guys, back to the topic: ... |
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2. Putin claims the above right of the nation to be important, but didn't let Chechenians to decide themselves, just bring them government on tanks. |
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Why Crimean Tatars didn't vote for joining Russia if they were affraid of nationalists ? They remember who has moved most of the population from Crimea to Kazakhstan steppes... |
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Same as Ukrainians remember Holodomor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor. |
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So, if starvations rarely occured in Empire times, then I am more convinced that Holodomor was genocide. |
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that's a myth invented to feed the Ukranian nationalism. I mean that Holodomor was aimed on Ukranians as it affected the whole European population of USSR. in the Empire times starvations were not seldom as well. -Dima
Holodomor was a famine in Ukraine caused by the government of Joseph Stalin, a part of Soviet famine of 1932–1933. Holodomor is claimed by contemporary Ukrainian government to be a genocide of the Ukrainians. As of March 2008, Ukraine and nineteen other governments have recognized the actions of the Soviet government as an act of genocide. The joint statement at the United Nations in 2003 has defined the famine as the result of cruel actions and policies of the totalitarian regime that caused the deaths of millions of Ukrainians, Russians, Kazakhs and other nationalities in the USSR. On 23 October 2008 the European Parliament adopted a resolution that recognized the Holodomor as a crime against humanity. -wiki List of Genocides But perhaps even in the current RF, if you speak out against the government, you get hauled off the the Gulag, just like in the old days. |
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And how did the Canadians ship the BREAD to Russia. Did they [air]ship it overnigt by Federal Express, or did they [sea]ship it on a long trans-atlantic route. |
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The guys that made this video suggest grain was taken from the citizens and exported to the West. |
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Maybe to make bread and return ship that to Ukraine. |
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