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  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
LoneRebel

Replies: 563
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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:22 pm   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
dj wrote (View Post):
IF Mitt Romney wins the American election next month, instead of chanting "4 More Years"  he will be chanting  "4 More Wars"

http://rackjite.com/stephen-colbert-mitt-romney-four-more-wars-four-more-wars/


dj, have you seen this?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/80097.html

Romney still sees fit to make birth certificate jokes (clearly targeted at Obama), even though Obama's actual long-form birth certificate was released long ago.

The willful ignorance that certain people display when they continue to deny the link between race, religion, and culture is hilarious, yet troubling at the same time, for just this reason.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_big_idea/2008/08/if_obama_loses.html

This was from the 2008 elections. And I quote from that article, "Five percent of white voters acknowledge that they, personally, would not vote for a black candidate."

Here's the link of the survey where that figure came from. Makes for some interesting reading.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080716_POLL.pdf

So, we have some whites openly admitting that they would not vote for a black candidate.

At the same time, aspersions were cast upon Barack's citizenship, in part because during his youth he had lived in Indonesia (a Muslim country).

At the same time, false accusations were made that Obama was in fact a Muslim. Just because his father was Muslim? (Never mind that even if he actually was a Muslim, so what?)

Even his middle name, Hussein, was emphasized. Why? Because it's a name common in Muslim countries.

Of course, certain people are going to remain in their fantasy universes, no matter how many facts are thrown at them.  Rolling Eyes
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
LoneRebel

Replies: 563
Views: 363264

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:11 pm   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
Actually, AGS, you are in the minority here. Most other posters in this thread agree with me.  Laughing

So you can keep up your colorful, but mostly nonsensical, posts.

You can continue to make those nasty ad hominem attacks on me, which only highlights even more the fact that you are desperate and have no rational arguments.  Very Happy

You can continue to believe that you have refuted my "pathetic" arguments, although this is a delusion that only you believe in. Before you celebrate, perhaps you should find even one person (besides Stwa) who agrees with you.  Laughing

PS: I notice that the frequency of your ad hominems is increasing. My theory is that your religious faith is so fanatical that it's gotten to the point where you interpret attacks on your religion or on your god to be attacks on you personally, and become very angry in response. I can almost see you foaming at the mouth while typing at your keyboard.

Yes, we already know how religion causes people to become irrational and confrontational. Thank you for proving us correct yet again. Your service is appreciated.  Smile
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
LoneRebel

Replies: 563
Views: 363264

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:01 pm   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
My, ArmeeGruppeSud is getting quite pumped, isn't he? Look at that wall of text he put out!!



Too long; didn't read.

Yes, AGS, religion has a way of making people antagonistic and confrontational. Thank you very much for proving our point. Very Happy

Here's a tip, AGS. Wall of text =/ Being correct.

Also, watch your language, why don't you? Here's some soap to wash out your mouth with.  Rolling Eyes

Your post was so full of personal attacks and ad hominems that I don't know where to begin, although, I assure you, I will get around to covering your abusive behavior in greater detail when I have time. Smile




After seeing AGS's most recent posts, I must say that I no longer feel the need to rebut each of his points individually, as I did before. It's too time-consuming, and it's obvious that AGS has more time than any of us to spend on pointless Internet arguments.

Now, AGS, you may believe that when I or anyone else ceases to respond to you, it means that you've won the argument.

Well, what can I say? Here's some First Day on the Internet Kid for you.

  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
LoneRebel

Replies: 563
Views: 363264

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:51 am   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
MajorFrank wrote (View Post):
AGS,

nope, it's a real. We also have some really nice Orthodox churces here, pretty buildings. Ev. lut. churces tend to be a bit drab looking. I think the Muslims have some smaller building that is a mosque now, so it's not like that there is a ban on building mosques or something. Also there are some synagogues etc. And to answer your question, I wouldn't mind more Muslims here. Unlike the Jewish they tend to work in fields where labour is needed and they aren't trying to 'govern' Finns like the Jewish always try to do.

Ta ta,

MF


Sadly, this is unlikely to make any impression upon AGS's thick skull, as he only pays attention to anything that supports his views, and discards everything that opposes them.

I mean, you've already answered his question about wanting more Islamic influence in your country (an incredibly vague question that doesn't deserve an answer in the first place), and he's still acting like you haven't.  Laughing
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
LoneRebel

Replies: 563
Views: 363264

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:00 am   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
My, ArmeeGruppeSud is getting quite pumped, isn't he? Look at that wall of text he put out!!



Too long; didn't read.

Yes, AGS, religion has a way of making people antagonistic and confrontational. Thank you very much for proving our point. What a guy! Very Happy

Here's a tip, AGS. Wall of text =/ Being correct.

Also, watch your language, why don't you? Here's some soap to wash out your mouth with.  Rolling Eyes

Your post was so full of personal attacks and ad hominems that I don't know where to begin, although, I assure you, I will get around to covering your abusive behavior in greater detail when I have time.  Smile




After seeing AGS's most recent posts, I must say that I no longer feel the need to rebut each of his points individually, as I did before. It's too time-consuming, and it's obvious that AGS has more time than any of us to spend on pointless Internet arguments.

Now, AGS, you may believe that when I or anyone else ceases to respond to you, it means that you've won the argument.

Well, what can I say? Here's some First Day on the Internet Kid for you.

  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
LoneRebel

Replies: 563
Views: 363264

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:11 am   Subject: Re: amiable religious discussion
Oh also, AGS, your attacks on Catholicism (which I quoted in an earlier post) seem to me to be an attempt to distance your type of Christianity (Protestantism) from Catholicism. Because of MF's and Stalky's attacks on Christianity, you attempted to attack Catholicism to show them that their criticisms only apply to Catholic Christianity, and not to Protestantism, which is, of course, blameless.

Don't kid yourself, AGS. Protestants are responsible for just as many wrongs as Catholics are. If the Catholic Church did not do enough to oppose the Nazis, the various Protestant churches are even more guilty, especially because most Germans are Protestant. Witch hunts and witch burnings were every bit as rampant in Protestant Europe as they were in Catholic Europe. Anti-semitism was present just as much in Protestant countries as in Catholic countries.

In other words - whatever it was that Protestants were protesting against the Catholic Church about, it wasn't the things that mattered.  Laughing They just continued many of the Church's bad practices themselves.

PS: AGS, for you to accuse others of trolling...it's like the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it?
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
LoneRebel

Replies: 563
Views: 363264

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:10 am   Subject: Re: amiable religious discussion
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):

LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
From an atheistic perspective, we [humans] will take our position as the dominant species on the planet because we can.
Correct, my poiint exactly

Its good that you can refute yourself and agree with me.


Oh, AGS, you so funny. Making stuff up now, are you?

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To put it another way.

By an atheistic moral perspective, the swine flu has every right to wipe out humanity, if it can.


It has nothing to do with rights. If it happens, it happens. I have no idea where you're getting all this talk of rights from.


LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
And this is why your "joke" about the Aborigines having to leave Australia because other animals were there first utilizes incorrect reasoning.

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INCORRECT
Remember we are talking about atheistic moral reasoning.


Wrong again. We are talking about what you believe to be atheistic moral reasoning. I have a feeling, however, that you don't really know as much as you think you do about how atheists reason.

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Because, hypothetically, humans do not have any God given moral rights, or, right of way, logically animals have as much right to the land as humans.
It was a perfectly rational, legitimate, reasonable, logical and humerous joke  


AGS, you appear to be laboring under the delusion that we need God to give us rights.

LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
If that happens, it means the microbe was too virulent, or our efforts to contain it were insufficient. Religion doesn't come into it at all.

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CORRECT

The context of the hypothetical was atheism, so religion doesn't come into it at all


I'm just curious, AGS. If in the near future, humanity should be wiped out by a pandemic, what would that mean to you?

LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
If it does, it would mean that God didn't save us, just as he didn't save the 50-80 million people who died from the Black Death, or the 50-100 million who died from the Spanish flu.  Laughing

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Surprised
Can't believe you would laugh about millions of people dieing from plagues etc.  Sad


Way to avoid my main point, which was that God did nothing to save those people who died. If you're so sad about these people dying, take it up with God, not me.  Laughing  Laughing

ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
[quote]We dont want/need islamic influene on our western (Christian) society.
LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
But my point is, why did you say this in the first place?

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the statement is true and i speak the truth

LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
It's true for you.?

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And for millions of other Australians

Conservitively, i estimate about 90-95% would agree with that statement

With the only people having the opposite opinion would be the muslims

Think about it..........


An opinion without basis in fact.

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Let me put it to you in a similar manner as i put it to Stalky

DO YOU LoneRebel WANT (desire/covet/yearn for) islamic influence in your Filipino society?

DO YOU LoneRebel NEED (deem nescesary/essential) islamic influence in your Filipino society?

The answer is either" YES" or "NO"..............

Think about it..........

While you are thinking, consider how much joy  the M.I.L.F. bring to Mindanao  Wink

Maybe you should invite the people of Maguindanaoe to live in your neighborhood in Manila.

Or

Better still, if you want/need islamic influence, you could move to Maguindanaoe


One reason you can get away with your fallacious reasoning is that you make it a yes/no question with only two answers, when in fact it's not a yes/no question at all.

The other reason you can get away with your fallacious reasoning is that you don't specify what "Islamic influence" means.  Laughing

Do you mean Muslims moving into the Philippines? I have no problem if the Muslim population of the Philippines increases, unlike you.

Do you mean forcing the Philippines to adopt Sharia? I would oppose that, just as I would oppose my country adopting any religion's code of law.

Btw, when MF implied that you were an anti-multiculturalist, you attempted to refute him by claiming that you are quite multiculturalist, it's just that Muslim immigrants are somehow different from all other immigrants because they refuse to assimilate and actually seek to turn Australia into an Islamic society.

It's easy to say such things. Now prove it. Evidence would be nice - oh, it seems you missed that part, didn't you?  Laughing

Provide statistics on the percentage of Australia's Muslim population that wants Australia to adopt Sharia law, or any other form of "Islamic influence" in Australia.

LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
As far as I can tell, you were the first person to bring up, on this thread, the whole issue of "Islamic influence". I still don't understand what made you say this, and I honestly don't feel like reading through the whole thread.

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Well, neither do i feel like doing the research for you.


Very well, then I'm going to keep my original opinion of you, since you don't seem to be willing to correct me.

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Well, it cant be racist as Muslims can be any racial group: Caucasions, Negroids, or Mongoloids.
LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
Not this argument, please. ... "It's not racist because Islam isn't a race!" As I said before, religion and race are intertwined..

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YES, you are right:

ALL Chinese, without exception, are Confusionists or Taoiists

and

ALL Japanese, without exception, are Shintus or Budhists

and

ALL Arabs, without exception, are Muslims,

and

ALL Indians, without exception, are Hindus, or Budhists

because, inescapably
LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
religion and race are intertwined.
Rolling Eyes  x infinity


The Straw Man Logic is strong in this one... AGS, I expected better from you...

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BUT............., you can call me a religionist

Most of the people on the planet a religionist, so i have plenty of company
LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
I regret to say that I'm not one of those people. It may seem to be a strange concept to you, but for me, a person's morals are more important to me than his or her religion.

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As i pointed out in an earlier post, a person's morals are shaped by their belief system (faith/religion)
This also includes the faith of atheism , as atheism is indeed a faith.


Religion isn't the only thing that shapes a person's morals.

LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
Let me give you an example. As you know, many Filipinos go abroad to work as domestic help in other countries. I notice that when the news media in "destination" countries, such as the Middle East, Singapore and Hong Kong release an article about Filipino domestic help, it's usually in the context of how lazy and irresponsible Filipinos are, etc. Whereas articles about them written by Philippine media usually focus on the inhumane abuse they receive abroad. This is an example of those Singaporeans and Hong Kongers failing to see things from our point of view. I dunno about you, but I prefer to believe our media over theirs. And being a lazy maid is less morally reprehensible than locking your maid inside the house and then beating her to death.  lol

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Must admit that i find it very troubling that you find that amusing


I don't find it amusing at all. Don't put words in my mouth because you can't make a rational argument.

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FACT: The Islamic leaders of the muslims in western countries are calling for islamification of those countries


Who are these people?

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FACT: Political correctness says we cant stop them


This is a fact? It's more of a conjecture.

LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
Well, AGS, this is a pretty elaborate conspiracy theory you got here. Not that it's original - it sounds exactly like something Ann Coulter or Jean-Marie le Pen would say.
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IT IS 100% ORIGINAL

There was no plagiarism involved


I can assure you that it is quite similar to what Ann Coulter would say.

I am not going to argue with you on your elaborate conspiracy theory involving Satan and his myriad plans to eliminate Christianity. It's a faith-based argument, and there's really no point arguing about faith. There is, of course, no scientific proof that Satan is behind all of the events you listed as part of a grand "plan" to annihilate Christianity. Not that this will change your mind. Like I said, it's a faith-based argument. Pointless to argue.
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
LoneRebel

Replies: 563
Views: 363264

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:48 am   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote:
Thats a very good point LoneRebel, and i hope that i can employ that principle more effectively in the future.

If you had followed this thread, religiously, you would have noted that i, respectfully, held my toungue (keyboard) when it came to expressing my points of disagreement with Catholic theology, doctrines and practices.


AT_Stalky wrote (View Post):
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
The point which you [LoneRebel] have overlooked is that you berate ONLY ME, but, based on your complete silence, you appear to condone the numerous attacks on various religions, including Catholicism, by AT_Stalky and MajorFrank.


ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
What i could not undertsand was, if you [LoneRebel] had read MF's rants against Catholicism, why a Catholic would attack somebody for criticising Islam and not attack somebody else who criticised Catholicism.



ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
 i am very critical of Catholicsm because it has been corrupted by human and pagan thinking.


ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
This unBiblical doctrine creates an abnormally high occurance of abnormal sexual behaviour amongst the Catholic Priesthood.  


ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
 Don't talk to me about the Catholic Church, i am a Protestant. We Protestants Protest against the Catholic Church too


ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
 Furthermore, 99% of children molested by priests and other outwardly religious people (within Christiandom) are victims of Catholic institutions


ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
the roman  (catholic) Church theology, teaching and practices became increasingly corrupted with paganism and false doctrines.


ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
 Even all of the worst atrocities of the Catholic church in 2000 years, combined, pales in comparisons to the crimes against humanity of of just one of the modern atheist monsters: [Stalin and Hitler] 


ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
 The Catholic Church is not what Christianity is about, it has nothing to do with me or my faith and i have nothing to do with it.


ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
 Stalin and Nazi Germany under Hitler, each on their own, were responsible for more atrocities, deaths etc than 2000 years of the corrupt Catholic Church


ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
 Being baptised as a catholic in infancy does not a christian make.



ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
If you [MajorFrank] have a problem with Catholicism, thats fine, so do i, we are on the same side (kind of)  



ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
 The Catholic Church is not what Christianity is about,


Smile
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
So LoneRebel claims to be a Catholic who has no objection to people criticising Catholicism


Wink


I also find this particular collection of your sayings very interesting, AGS.  Laughing  Laughing

Don't tell me - this is respectful already for you compared to what you would have wanted to say?  Laughing  Laughing
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
LoneRebel

Replies: 563
Views: 363264

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:32 am   Subject: Re: Amiable political/religious discussions
AT_Stalky wrote (View Post):
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
Calling me anti-multiculturalist is like calling you a devout Christian preacher who believes God created the universe and everything in it.



ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
In total contrast to your irrational rantings, i am not "anti-multiculturalist".  


ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
This is simply yet another of your many delusions, symptomatic of the continuous flow of BS that prevails in your mind  Confused  


Smile

ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
as an Australian, in a multiculturally friendly nation (unlike Finland), I am not only accepting of multiculturalism, but i also embrace it  Very Happy

Smile

ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
We dont want/need islamic influene on our western (Christian) society.


ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
If you wanna live here, either become like us, or GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM!


ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
Either they convert to christianity or just joyfully embrace and adopt our culture, or they should just stay in their Muslim countries instead of coming here and using stupid secular political correctness to make our wonderfull Christian foundationed society into a hellhole like the muslim culture they risked their lives to escape.



Wink


AGS, I'll just leave this quote by Stalky here, because I find it quite interesting. Perhaps you can help me understand it?  Very Happy
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
LoneRebel

Replies: 563
Views: 363264

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:29 am   Subject: Re: amiable religious discussion
Quote:

Yes i knew exactly what you meant.........

BUT!

I said:
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To take an[b] atheistic moral perspective, the native fauna that were here before the Koori,..................

[color=indigo]Remember the context is all important.

You and i know that humans have a moral right to take dominion over all fauna and flora as a God given right.
But, from an atheistic moral perspective, humans have no more moral right to do anything than a sea slug.

Under a atheistic scientific moral perspective the Swine flu has as much right to life as the human victims it kills.

According to atheistic science therum, the right to exist belongs to the strongest/most adaptable etc

If the swine flu can outsmart humanity, if it can adapt and beat humanity's attempts at it's microbiological genecide and it can win the fight for survival, ultimately wiping out humanity, it has every scientific right to do so
[/b]  


You have a logical fallacy here. I don't think an atheistic moral perspective would assume what you believe it would at all. You seem to be saying that the Bible is the only justification for our meat-eating. It isn't. Animals eat other animals all the time. Humans are also animals. If it's okay for other animals to do it, it's okay for us to do it. Furthermore, our digestive systems are adapted to an omnivorous diet, not a herbivorous one. No religious justification required.

From an atheistic perspective, we [humans] will take our position as the dominant species on the planet because we can. We have the intelligence to do so. Of course, this is exactly the same thing the religious would do, except that they will say that God allowed them to do so.  Laughing

And this is why your "joke" about the Aborigines having to leave Australia because other animals were there first utilizes incorrect reasoning.  Wink

As for the swine flu, if by any chance the flu or any other microbe wipes out humanity, will we even be talking about rights? We'll all be dead.

If that happens, it means the microbe was too virulent, or our efforts to contain it were insufficient. Religion doesn't come into it at all. If it does, it would mean that God didn't save us, just as he didn't save the 50-80 million people who died from the Black Death, or the 50-100 million who died from the Spanish flu.  Laughing

ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
Quote:
We dont want/need islamic influene on our western (Christian) society.
LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
But my point is, why did you say this in the first place?

Dunno, cant remember the conversation context.

You can go back and find it and read the conversational context.

Other than that, the statement is true and i speak the truth  


It's true for you.

As far as I can tell, you were the first person to bring up, on this thread, the whole issue of "Islamic influence". I still don't understand what made you say this, and I honestly don't feel like reading through the whole thread.


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Well, it cant be racist as Muslims can be any racial group: Caucasions, Negroids, or Mongoloids.


Not this argument, please.  Very Happy "It's not racist because Islam isn't a race!" As I said before, religion and race are intertwined.

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BUT............., you can call me a religionist

Most of the people on the planet a religionist, so i have plenty of company


I regret to say that I'm not one of those people. It may seem to be a strange concept to you, but for me, a person's morals are more important to me than his or her religion.  Very Happy

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When it comes to institutionalised racism, the Philippines is among the leaders along with many asian countries.

No foreigners can own land in the Philippines, nor can they become citizens.

My children could become citizens only provided they are born to a Filipina mother.


Oh, please. If we allowed foreigners to own land, foreigners would own everything in this country. I guess that's alright with you, but it ain't alright with us.

Besides, foreigners have ways around that law, such as marrying Filipinos. No offense, but I really have to wonder if all the foreigners who marry Filipinas actually love them.  Rolling Eyes

You need to see things from our perspective, not from your white-privilege perspective. I see you still have difficulty doing so.  :lol:

Let me give you an example. As you know, many Filipinos go abroad to work as domestic help in other countries. I notice that when the news media in "destination" countries, such as the Middle East, Singapore and Hong Kong release an article about Filipino domestic help, it's usually in the context of how lazy and irresponsible Filipinos are, etc. Whereas articles about them written by Philippine media usually focus on the inhumane abuse they receive abroad. This is an example of those Singaporeans and Hong Kongers failing to see things from our point of view. I dunno about you, but I prefer to believe our media over theirs. And being a lazy maid is less morally reprehensible than locking your maid inside the house and then beating her to death.  Laughing

Here's another example, one which might be more interesting to you. As you know, many Filipino women marry Caucasian men. When Caucasians talk about these relationships, it's about how Filipinas date white men only so that they can green cards for their entire families to move to that man's country, or about how Filipinas only marry white men for their money. Whereas, when Filipinos talk about Filipinas marrying Caucasian men, we have cautionary tales about our women being beaten by their white husbands, among other forms of abuse. This is another example of foreigners failing to see things from our point of view.  Confused

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Trouble makers, both here and overseas, rave on about racism in Australia, yet, especially considering our Laws, Australia is one of the least racist countries in the world Razz


Oh, I wasn't talking about Australia. I was talking about you.  Wink

LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
I notice a disturbing "reverse political correctness" in the West today, where people are not allowed to say something is racist,
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Puh'lease

Oh how i wish  Rolling Eyes

Please give us some reverse political correctness.
Also for sexism
A man cant say anything nowadays  Rolling Eyes


This reminds me of something I read in a college sociology text. It goes something like this: "The latest group to claim victim status are white Christian males, who claim that, 'Everyone receives special treatment except us.'"

Look at it from a sociological point of view. You're a member of the most powerful societal group in human society at this time. Count your blessings.  Cool


LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
nonwhite Christians will soon outnumber white Christians, if they don't already.
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Pretty sure they do in Asia alone


Won't stop white Christians from lording it over nonwhite Christians though, will it? I do hope for a nonwhite Pope sometime this century.  Laughing

LoneRebel wrote (View Post):
Long story short, you really need to cut down on all the anti-Islamic stuff. That's my advice. When you talk like that, you sound uncomfortably like Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage, or their counterparts in Europe.

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IF the Muslims stop illegally invading us & stop tampering with our society, i'll stop complaining about them.


So....., i guess......., it aint gonna happen

*Lots and lots of conspiracy theory stuff*


Well, AGS, this is a pretty elaborate conspiracy theory you got here. Not that it's original - it sounds exactly like something Ann Coulter or Jean-Marie le Pen would say.

I see no point in arguing with you about this, because everything you said is based more on conjecture than actual fact.  All I can say is, if you truly believe that Muslim civilians are "invading" the West, well...now you know how we felt. How does it feel?  Laughing
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
LoneRebel

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:35 pm   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
DAK_Legion wrote (View Post):
Stwa don't eat pets as dogs and cats


And some people keep chickens, pigs, sheep, etc. as pets. Doesn't stop Westerners from eating them.

Epic fail answer, try again.  Laughing

Stwa wrote (View Post):
But I gotta say, I went to a chart, and now I am worried that after you guys have eaten all of your pets, you might start eating each other.  Idea

After all, meat is meat, like you explained.  Laughing


Stwa, you really can't stop insulting people, can you? I guess you just can't help it. Probably better for you, because if you tried to make an actual, logical response you'd just end up embarrassing yourself.  Laughing

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So, in that sense, score one for Stalky and his ideas on a totally secular society.


But yes, Stalky is right about the merits of secularism. So by agreeing with him, for once you're right about something.  Very Happy

dj wrote (View Post):
"..In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to the Republican Party strategy of winning elections or to gain political support in the Southern section of the country by appealing to racism against African Americans

..many white Southern Democrats stopped supporting the party following the civil rights plank of the Democratic campaign in 1948..."


Very useful info. However, just as I said earlier, some people refuse to see racism anywhere...  :roll:

And, since Stwa hasn't stopped posting completely irrelevant stuff designed solely to provoke, I shall continue to reciprocate.

"When they attempt divination upon important matters they [the Druids] practice a strange and incredible custom, for they kill a man by a knife-stab in the region above his midriff. After the sacrificial victim falls dead...they foretell the future by the convulsions of his limbs and the pouring of his blood." - Diodorus Siculus  Laughing
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LoneRebel

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:03 pm   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
DAK_Legion wrote (View Post):
Stwa wrote (View Post):
Wow, Stwa. This may come as a surprise to you, but not every person on this forum is white. Shocking as it may seem, some of us Third Worlders actually do have PCs and Internet connections. -LoneRebel

Do you have any pets.   Question   Laughing



Was answered on page 30 LoneRebel

at the end of Quote..Stwa wrote........


This is not an answer. It's a question.  Rolling Eyes
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
LoneRebel

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:53 pm   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
[quote="Stwa";p="66787"]You, on the other hand were so eager to engage in a tit for tat beween Western (presumably white) culture and Eastern (presumably non-white) culture, you missed the point altogether.

You just cant help yourself.  :!:

Wrong again, Stwa! No big surprise.  Laughing

I'm not interested in engaging in any "tit-for-tat"; it's you who wants to do that.

I'm merely imitating you, and posting things that have nothing to do with the topic of this thread whatsoever.

You just can't help it. Here's another one. Enjoy.  Arrow

"This inhuman people were accustomed to shed the blood of their prisoners on their altars, and consult the gods over the reeking bowels of men." - Tacitus, on the Britons.

Oh, and you haven't answered my question yet. I hope you'll stop running away soon.  Laughing
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LoneRebel

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:48 pm   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
Stwa wrote (View Post):
Some people just see racism everywhere. They just cant help themselves.  Confused

There is genuine hatred for whites. It's not really a big surprise.

Hopefully, youth will save the day.  Arrow


Link


Some people refuse to see racism anywhere, except when it's targeted at whites. They just can't help themselves.  Confused

There is genuine hatred and/or disrespect for nonwhites. It's not really a big surprise.

But it's okay. Youth will save the day. The fact is that you're outnumbered and growing more outnumbered every day. So in the long run, it doesn't really matter what you think.  Wink
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LoneRebel

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:39 pm   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
"The whole of the Gallic nation is much given to religious practices. For this reason those who are afflicted with serious illness and those who are involved in battles and danger either offer human sacrifice or vow that they will do so, and employ the druids to manage these sacrifices. For they believe that unless one human life is offered for another the power and presence of the immortal gods cannot be propitiated. They also hold state sacrifices of a similar kind. Some of them use huge images of the gods, and fill their limbs, which are woven from wicker, with living people. When these images are set on fire the people inside are engulfed in flames and killed. They believe that the gods are more pleased by such punishments when it is inflicted upon those who are caught engaged in theft or robbery or other crimes; but if there is a lack of people of this kind, they will even stoop to punishing the guiltless." - Julius Caesar, The Gallic Wars  Laughing
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LoneRebel

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:26 pm   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
Stwa wrote (View Post):
OK, is there ANY video that you do not see coded racism or out-in-the-open racism.  Laughing   Arrow


Actually, I don't even watch your videos for the most part. I have better things to use my bandwidth on. Seeing the title and the first picture is enough.  So I wouldn't know. Laughing

Are you planning on answering my question sometime soon? I expect an answer, not another question.  Rolling Eyes
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LoneRebel

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:17 pm   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
Stwa wrote (View Post):
Wow, Stwa. This may come as a surprise to you, but not every person on this forum is white. Shocking as it may seem, some of us Third Worlders actually do have PCs and Internet connections. -LoneRebel

Do you have any pets.   Question   Laughing


Curiouser and curiouser, Stwa.

What's your point?

Also, do you plan to answer my question sometime this month?
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LoneRebel

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:13 pm   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
Stwa wrote (View Post):
How many times do they keep saying he is the Food Stamp President. -dj

Maybe you can buy dog meat with food stamps. [slaps forehead]

Seriously, do you guys see any codes in this video.  Question  Arrow

BTW, hit More info tp learn about the Secret Dog Farms.  Shocked


Stwa, I'm not really sure what point you're trying to get across with all these videos. Again, if you're trying to make a point, you're not doing too well, because I'm not getting it. I'm sure dj might be able to better address your "criticisms" of the points he raised regarding coded racism and such. Maybe what you're saying is that it's not coded racism, it's out-in-the-open racism?  Laughing

Of course, in any discussion of non-Western cultures, dog-eating has to come out sooner or later. You are too predictable, Stwa.  Rolling Eyes

I'm just going to point out that the Western disgust at dog-eating, which you seemingly can't resist bringing up again and again, is one of the biggest hypocrisies in Western society.

Tell me, Stwa, why do Westerners find eating cats and dogs abhorrent, but find nothing wrong with eating chickens, pigs, cattle, fish, sheep, and goats?  Laughing

Is it because cats and dogs are more intelligent than those animals? Scientific research has concluded that pigs are extremely intelligent, at least as intelligent as dogs, and probably more so. So no, you won't be able to use that as an answer.  Razz

I eagerly await your answer to my question. Don't take too long now.
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
LoneRebel

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:30 am   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
Wow, Stwa. This may come as a surprise to you, but not every person on this forum is white. Shocking as it may seem, some of us Third Worlders actually do have PCs and Internet connections.

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Long story short, you really need to cut down on all the anti-Islamic stuff. -Lone Rebel

But my point is, why did you say this in the first place? Although your other statements seem otherwise, this particular statement, I'm sorry to say, makes you seem like one of those []multiculturalist, if not outright racist, [non-]whites. If that is the case, I'm sorry, but I won't be able to see eye to eye with you on this particular subject. -Lone Rebel


Wait...so I'm an anti-white racist because I advised AGS to cut down on his anti-Islamic statements? Does not compute...  Rolling Eyes

I have no idea why you changed what I wrote from "anti-multiculturalist" to "multiculturalist" and "whites" to "non-whites". If you were trying to make a point, I think you didn't do too well.  Very Happy

Implying that multiculturalism is equivalent to racism against whites is, to use the modern term, an epic fail. Don't tell me - you're one of those people who believe that the white race is being "diluted" by the Muslim hordes! Madre de Dios!  Razz

It seems to me that you will only accept non-whites if they're Christian. Sad...  Sad

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Religion is a deeply personal thing. So, the notion that someone might be for or against a particular religion shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.


Since you know that religion is a deeply personal thing, maybe you should respect other people's religions? Unless you deliberately set out to offend them? Just saying...

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Here is a Western culture, that I am sure everyone will appreciate. Sorry, I couldn't find any contemporary video for this.


Don't you mean "non-Western culture?"  Laughing

I hope you don't think that all non-Western cultures are human-sacrificing savages. Perpetuating the image of whites as ignoramuses whose only idea of non-Westerners is stereotypes...not good.  Wink

Oh, by the way...my homeboys Tacitus, Livy, and Julius Caesar (you may have heard of him) inform me that the Celts and the Germanic tribes practiced human sacrifice too.  Laughing  Laughing  Twisted Evil




Stwa, read dj's post. You might learn something...if you're willing to be educated. We have a saying in the Philippines that translates to "The hardest people to wake up are the ones who are pretending to be asleep."  Laughing

dj wrote (View Post):
Also he makes jokes about Global Warming like it is funny or some global world liberal intellectual elitist conspiracy.  And then he said Obama is not one of us...you don't have to ask me where my Birth Certificate is, Romney thought that was funny too.  We get it.  Coded racist messaging to pander towards that faction.
How many times do they keep saying he is the Food Stamp President.  How many times do they spread lies about Obama making Welfare easier...despite the fact the GOP governor's were the ones that asked he revise the policies to give states more flexibility


dj, I have always thought that "nonwhite Republican" is one of the biggest oxymorons of all time (and I have relatives in the US who are Republican). It's sad, really. The GOP can try to hide it, but we all know what they mean when they try to cast doubt on Obama's citizenship, his religion, his affiliation with Rev. Wright, and of course, food stamps and welfare. We get it.
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
LoneRebel

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:59 pm   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
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We dont want/need islamic influene on our western (Christian) society.


But my point is, why did you say this in the first place? Although your other statements seem otherwise, this particular statement, I'm sorry to say, makes you seem like one of those anti-multiculturalist, if not outright racist, whites. If that is the case, I'm sorry, but I won't be able to see eye to eye with you on this particular subject.

There, I used the "R" word.  Laughing I notice a disturbing "reverse political correctness" in the West today, where people are not allowed to say something is racist, even when it obviously is, and whenever nonwhites complain about racism they're told to "grow up", "lighten up", "can't you take a joke?" and so on. I find this disturbing, just as disturbing as the fact that Westerners love to claim Christianity as a Western religion, despite the fact that Jesus himself was not European, and that nonwhite Christians will soon outnumber white Christians, if they don't already.  Rolling Eyes

While you certainly don't seem to be a card-carrying skinhead neo-Nazi, racism can take many forms. More insidious than the neo-Nazis (who are too obvious, really) is the sort of racism where a white person is perfectly willing to accept and befriend nonwhites, but only if they follow Western norms. They don't necessarily have any appreciation for non-Western cultures (or religions). This is why I'm eager to see your response to my observation that when the Spanish Christianized the Filipinos, they also destroyed much of our culture. I'm wondering if you'll say that it was no great loss. Laughing   

Filipinos are not really the best people to bolster one's multiculturalist cred with, as we are quite Westernized.  Very Happy

Long story short, you really need to cut down on all the anti-Islamic stuff. That's my advice. When you talk like that, you sound uncomfortably like Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage, or their counterparts in Europe.
 
 
 
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