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  Topic: Syria chem attacks
sod98

Replies: 62
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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:43 am   Subject: Re: Syria chem attacks
JFFulcrum wrote (View Post):
Strange things in media continues:

Farther of poisoned in 2006 Litvinenko made statement on TV, that his son was poisoned by CIA agent, and make friendship with suspected (by Britain) killer:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gazeta.ru%2Fsocial%2F2018%2F03%2F21%2F11690293.shtml&edit-text=

Russian state media back-edited interview with another 'father' of 'Novichok' weaponry:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fruposters.ru%2Fnews%2F20-03-2018%2Fotredaktirovalo-intervyu-razrabotchikom

One of Rink statements was that is impossible to transfer armed Novichok in luggage. Now, due to back-editing, all information provided by him should be treatened with caution.


Great articles once again. Certainly paints a different picture and contains more background info to the western narrative. Cheers
  Topic: Syria chem attacks
sod98

Replies: 62
Views: 34119

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:36 am   Subject: Re: Syria chem attacks
mooxe in fairness I also called you - weak minded
                                              - feeble minded
                                              - god, as in god syndrome
                                              - also that you refuse to admit when wrong (  a narcissist  )
                                             


Some meanings of " pretty good " - usual, decent, adequate, reasonable, satisfactory,average, common, middling, moderate, ordinary etc etc....you get the drift.
  Topic: Syria chem attacks
sod98

Replies: 62
Views: 34119

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:55 am   Subject: Re: Syria chem attacks
So far I have not taken an opinion on any article referenced in this thread. I have given my opinion of the websites and people posting to them. To summarize, off-guardian.com is not a legitimate news source or a pretty good source for news, its an opinion blog. Disobedientmedia.com is a more professional looking site with staff but the co-founders credibility has been called into question. William Craddick's article your posted claim no sources other than news websites and show no attempts to contact actual witnesses or people involved. After having your good source scrutinized you could only resort to personal attacks which were;


    I am a janitor
    I am making a fool of myself
    I am pathetic
    I am naive
    I am gullible
    I am embarassing myself
    I am insecure
    I lack judgement
    I appear stupid
    I make things up
    I have a narrow point of view
    I cherry pick articles


My comment about you showing contempt for others on this site is well proven by you, proven beyond a reasonable doubt just in this one thread. In fact, mostly every reply you make in response to an opposing view is so riddled with insulting rhetoric that your credibility here has been ruined. Its such a common theme with you that's its worth addressing and not off topic.

Do you care to explain why you act like this?[/quote]


You state that you have not taken an opinion - no investigative Journalist - William Craddick like him, hate him or disagree with some of his articles is a investigative journalist. "  Since you label him as an investigative journalist, where did he travel to and who did he speak with to form any facts in this article " - look up what an investigative journalist does. Some scour documents, interview parties from all side, interrupt videos and pics, visit sites of interest etc. You seem to have a very shallow idea of an investigative journalist. Craddick is a free lance IJ which means he writes for many medias. How more can I help you or do you still know better.............lol,.

" Contempt. Sod's greatest asset ". If you don't like me labeling you naive, gullible etc which you are by the way, don't through the first stones then cry about it. I believe it's better to give than to receive. Off the topic - you have been so far off topic for most of this thread it shows how one sided your views are. Not to mention how you refuse to admit when wrong - Remember the tranny's in the US military saga and this one. You have labled me anti American when giving facts that you don't like..........I'm not crying. Your point of view.

In future I suggest if you don't like the rocks I throw don't throw the first pebble..........or just harden up snowflake. Remember you threw the first one I just returned the gesture.

As a janitor on this site you do a marvelous job. As a comments man.....do a little more research, esp on the meaning of words - pretty good.......I was wondering what you meant by those comments as it appeared you were agreeing with me then not......lol. Don't take what I have written out of context but in the correct meaning of it.
  Topic: Syria chem attacks
sod98

Replies: 62
Views: 34119

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:06 pm   Subject: Re: Syria chem attacks
mooxe wrote (View Post):
I absolutely doubt the article. William Craddick's reputation has been called into question previously in the link I posted. Since you label him as an investigative journalist, where did he travel to and who did he speak with to form any facts in this article? Nowhere and nobody! Apply the same questions to his Haiti article. This is a stitched together opinion article. The fact is, his article is an opinion.


What happened to your attack on the " pretty good " that's right i stared you into another trap.....................lol. And do I see - sorry sod I was wrong........no.

If you want that info send him a email like you can to all medias. And here we are once again you are questioning his Haiti article. Go back to being the janitor mooxe. I trying to stop you making a bigger fool of yourself but you keep digging that hole. Calm down and pour yourself a warm milk drink. Take a few deep breaths. You believe WAPO and sorts who report what these moderate rebels are saying through the SOFHR. They have been discredited as being a one man band out of a little house in Britain..............lol. And that was several years ago and they are still being used. How many times over the years have I had to show links and info to mooxe and DJ just to get - no reply. Do your own donkey work. You are pathetic.

Get back on topic and stop embarrassing yourself further. At least as the janitor you didn't appear stupid, naive and gullible. Where is Citrus.
  Topic: Syria chem attacks
sod98

Replies: 62
Views: 34119

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:41 am   Subject: Re: Syria chem attacks
JFFulcrum wrote (View Post):
Cui prodest?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/15/uk-set-up-48m-chemical-weapons-defence-centre-gavin-williamson


You are so right. I just can't understand how naive and gullible some people are to what is a fact. Just the docket issue shows how little people understand law within their own country. Also how saying or changing a name can give the wrong illusion for the right effect - Russian nerve agent - USSR ( Uzbekistan ). And forgetting to mention all countries that are capable of making that agent.

DJ's comment that Britain doesn't need to give a sample is just naive. Britain accused Russia, they have denied guilt. They are asking England now to provide a sample to clear them. As I understand it. The nerve agent has a signature that can confirm details of manufacture. Could be the reason Britain won't give it to them.
  Topic: Syria chem attacks
sod98

Replies: 62
Views: 34119

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:31 am   Subject: Re: Syria chem attacks
They are associated to the Guardian through their supply of articles like I have been saying. Also like I have said, that article was written by an Investigative journalist. Something that you denied but I have shown again that you were wrong. I can agree that me saying Off Guardian was a " pretty good  " site shows it's not 100% if you look up an explanation of pretty good / fair. Once again I hope that helps you mooxe. Are you now doubting the Guardian who some of their articles come from, please give your reasons. Or are you doubt the English language or am I again presenting the truth that you have issues with - the truth. I believe you have issues with meanings of words. But that comes down to schooling and education or the lack of.

Do either of you doubt this articles accuracy as I have asked before but once again you refused to answer by saying nothing about that. Do you disagree that William Craddick is an Investigative Journalist. He first bought to light the issue of human trafficking of teens from Haiti post their disaster if you check. Something the Clinton's would like to forget with their association with this issue . Like most media they do print false news and WAPO, NYT and many others are excused from that - WMD's in Iraq and Sarin Gas use by Assad's Syria to white helmets being the good guys etc. That's why I have always stated reading media from many sources.

DJ read what I said " Valery Morozov - who cares what he is". Back on topic - so who can you proof threatened him...........evidence.... it was from Russia or was it some underworld businessmen - all speculation. He can't prove it was from Moscow or from his neighbor. Saying something is often different to reality DJ. What better way to set someone up. Also,  if you are going to kill someone after all of the public backlash over the nerve agent business ,  would you send them threatening letters etc............lol. That's pure fantasy but some people will believe anything.

Both mooxe and DJ need to learn meanings of words and read what is in front of them and not what their paranoid minds tells them what they want to see. You guys are embarrassing themselves further. Thanks for the laughs again guys.
  Topic: Syria chem attacks
sod98

Replies: 62
Views: 34119

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:08 pm   Subject: Re: Syria chem attacks
mooxe wrote (View Post):
Off-guardian.com is as associated with theguardian.com as any random blog is quoting BBC articles. What does theguardian.com say about its association with off-guardian.com? You're seemingly trying to lend credence to off-guardian.com by stating its associated with theguardian.com which is a trusted news source in order to validate your point of view while at the same time bashing MSM for poor journalism. This is a paradox.


No, I have replied to your post " The Guardian head to off-guardian.org to bash Guardian articles. Its mostly opinion pieces and summary articles stitching together a collection of other news ". And " just facts interpreted from the web ". I have shown that to be untrue just by that one article where OG is associated to the Guardian and an investigative journalist wrote the article. Man up mooxe, you challenged OG's status of journalism. I have proved once again that you were wrong using wiki as your source of research. The banned members of the Guardian joining OG - I wouldn't know but you must have some info on that...........surely.

Calm down mooxe........admit you got this wrong too. I have supplied evidence that you can check, now run off and check it.................lol.
  Topic: Syria chem attacks
sod98

Replies: 62
Views: 34119

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:03 am   Subject: Re: Syria chem attacks
mooxe wrote (View Post):
sod98 wrote (View Post):
not all of their stories meet good journalism


The sites standard in journalism reflects on the accuracy of the article.


mooxe that's right. The standard of that article was accurate and by a investigative journalist something most MSM don't have anymore. Well done and you even recognized that they have journalists.

DJ - where do I begin. First you say I'm indulging in far right web sites and now calling this socialist website wonky without any checking. You have stated that I must be a Russian troll and that I'm not from NZ. You are more confused that Bradley Manning. I do believe this posting was one of the  first from a non MSM site. Does that worry you guys more than the truth. As that's what they have published. I guess you and mooxe have had issues with the truth and not being able to admit your mistakes in the past.

Valery Morozov - who cares what he is. Has he proof or is evidence enough that they make these baseless claims for you to believe.

mooxe and Dj - once again looking forward to you guys saying that you were wrong. The article is accurate and by a investigative journalist. Off Guardian is associated through supply of articles. Man up or DJ just admit.
  Topic: Syria chem attacks
sod98

Replies: 62
Views: 34119

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:54 am   Subject: Re: Syria chem attacks
mooxe wrote (View Post):
Its nothing more than a blog site. The owner seems to have a beef with the Guardian, and the users to. I wouldn't say its a good source for anything.

"Cherry pick your articles just like the facts that you use."

I don't know what facts I am using to warrant that statement. All I know is this blog site that carries a massive slant is in your eyes, a good source.


Do you doubt that articles accuracy. Do you doubt they get some of their info from the Guardian. William Craddick who published this article on OffGuardian is an investigative journalist, if you do a little checking. But going by your statement this site is just a blog.............lol. William Craddick was they first to disclose the Silsby Trafficking Scandal - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-is-laura-silsby/

Not bad for a blogger, banned Guardian poster etc............lol. Granted not all of their stories meet good journalism. But what media's does these days. Even the WH is commenting on the state of the MSM's bias and untruthful reporting.
  Topic: Syria chem attacks
sod98

Replies: 62
Views: 34119

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:07 pm   Subject: Re: Syria chem attacks
JFFulcrum wrote (View Post):
Cui prodest?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/15/uk-set-up-48m-chemical-weapons-defence-centre-gavin-williamson


When is a sample going to be provided to Russia.
  Topic: Syria chem attacks
sod98

Replies: 62
Views: 34119

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:06 pm   Subject: Re: Syria chem attacks
mooxe wrote (View Post):
sod98 wrote (View Post):
An interesting read - https://off-guardian.org/2017/04/09/evidence-calls-western-narrative-about-syrian-chemical-attack-into-question/

Off Guardian is a pretty good source and associated to the Guardian.


Associated to The Guardian in that people who are banned from or unhappy with The Guardian head to off-guardian.org to bash Guardian articles. Its mostly opinion pieces and summary articles stitching together a collection of other news site reporting to support their opinions, no journalists at all. No facts of their own investigating, just facts interpreted from the web.


" other news site reporting to support their opinions ". - read what you just said. Other News sites releases. No different to other medias just using their journalists. Opinions are from the readers and news sites like most MSM. You need to stop making things up. Off Guardian is associated to through it's use of many Guardian articles through agreement of supply. Do a little more research. The article I have used is just one from nearly every MSM and other sources. Using one sources leaves a person with a narrow point of view. Like yours and DJ. Cherry pick your articles just like the facts that you use.

I think you will find most media now use each other articles these days - it's cheaper as most medias are owned by the same groups.
  Topic: Syria chem attacks
sod98

Replies: 62
Views: 34119

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:20 am   Subject: Re: Syria chem attacks
If I say too much. You acting as God will censor me again. So you are best to stick to the topic for a change. But only comment if you have something worth stating.........also for a change.

Tells us what you think about the chem attacks in other words......does that help you.
  Topic: the ones who wouldn't stop
sod98

Replies: 3
Views: 3128

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:14 am   Subject: Re: the ones who wouldn't stop
Two very good stories in depth - cheers.
  Topic: Oliver Stone on Putin - RT interview
sod98

Replies: 0
Views: 1789

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:07 am   Subject: Oliver Stone on Putin - RT interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db1Zw0dFOvs

Some interesting points of view on the world today.
  Topic: Syria chem attacks
sod98

Replies: 62
Views: 34119

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:05 am   Subject: Re: Syria chem attacks
mooxe wrote (View Post):
What about the paranoid?


Once again you are not adding anything but your lack of judgement. Calm down down mooxe and watch another CNN release on Russian interference or poisoning. You are losing it again.
  Topic: Syria chem attacks
sod98

Replies: 62
Views: 34119

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:45 am   Subject: Re: Syria chem attacks
mooxe wrote (View Post):
Contempt. Sod's greatest asset.


Of fools, gullible people and weak minded - yes. Feel free to add your name to that list mooxe. Unless you have something to add to this comments sections other than your insecurities.
  Topic: Syria chem attacks
sod98

Replies: 62
Views: 34119

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:25 am   Subject: Re: Syria chem attacks
dj wrote (View Post):
So the U.K. govt wants to kill Russian nationals living in exile or what would be the motive for killing Putin critics?  Is RT or other Russian media trying to claim Russian nationals living in exile are victims of Yankee or British imperialism?  It's like the govt wants to relive the glory days of Cold War era.

fake news right?   http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-exile-valery-morozov-gets-death-threat-after-skripal-glushkov-2018-3

"..A Russian exile living in Britain says he has received death threats saying that people who poisoned former spy Sergei Skripal are coming for him.  Valery Morozov, a 63-year-old who fled Russia after exposing what he said were corrupt business practices, said that he received threats to his life via anonymous, encrypted emails.  Skripal was exposed to Novichok, a Russian-made nerve agent, which left him in critical condition in hospital and sparked a major diplomatic rift between London and Moscow.  Not long after he was poisoned, Russian exile Nikolai Glushkov was found dead in his London home in what police now believe was a murder. Glushkov had earlier warned that he was on a Kremlin hit list."

The only other evidence is from Russian state owned media report whom claimed he "stole" $100M from Russian company.  Well why not seek extradition via U.K. govt to bring him back to Russia to stand trial?


It's about proof and to date once again no sample given to Russia. Britain asked the question and received an answer. They continue to accuse but the burden of proof now lays with them to show. GB like the US has a history of creating falsehoods to suit foreign policy - WMD's, Sarin gas attacks, Operation Unthinkable and many others.

These ex spies have gone by their use by date for their new host countries, but could serve them one more time it appears. Why hasn't the Brit Govt been more open and honest about the countries who have the ability to make the nerve agent as GB, USA and four or five others countries can as well as Russia. Calling the nerve agent a Russia nerve agent at best is disingenuous as it was made in the USSR in Uzbekistan. Failing with the sample and even refusing a Russian request though the UN speaks volumes.

You say Putin is a clever in spying and election interference etc but stupid enough to do something like this before the Russian elections and the FIFA World Cup............lol. Timing is everything and nothing happens by accident in foreign affairs if you apply common sense.........that could be asking to much from you. I do feel sorry for you.
  Topic: Follow the $$$ money...Yanukov's servant
sod98

Replies: 15
Views: 8172

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:03 pm   Subject: Re: Follow the $$$ money...Yanukov's servant
dj wrote (View Post):
Ahhh I see so official bank documents are not good enough for you?  Gates, Mannafort's colleague whom already pleaded guilty,  changed bank accounts and moved money around to different banks. In fact U.S. banks must comply with regulations that prohibit fraud and money laundering...so ONE of his many banks in California holding assets actually closed his account due to suspicious activity.
You can keep spinning things all you want or be as cynical as you'd like, but math and bank statements don't lie.  Especially considering many of these banks are not even based in U.S.  Plus Russian oligarch himself filed complaint against Mannafort overseas.  So is that another Yankee imperialist plot again?


It's not what I have said. In legal terms disclosed dockets contain all material but are unfounded. Therefore strictly speaking they are not evidence til they have met the requirement for proof. Suck dockets can contain allegations of police corruption in drugs cases and bribes that are fictitious. A docket is like a receipt or acknowledgement that this issue was raised.

Hope that helps and do a little research next time if you are unsure.
  Topic: Civil War Gold
sod98

Replies: 0
Views: 1765

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:10 pm   Subject: Civil War Gold
FBI at site where Civil War gold rumored to be buried - https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/102358148/fbi-at-site-where-civil-war-gold-rumored-to-be-buried

Finders Keepers story - http://finderskeepersusa.com/site.php?site=13
  Topic: Syria chem attacks
sod98

Replies: 62
Views: 34119

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:51 pm   Subject: Re: Syria chem attacks
JFFulcrum wrote (View Post):
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-russia-poison/nerve-agent-planted-in-luggage-of-russian-agents-daughter-the-telegraph-idUKKCN1GS0NN

Quite believable, from where toxin comes: 2000 miles from Russia in luggage via numerous checkpoints and unpredictable wait for unpacking, or twelve miles from Skripal house by road, h-m.


Exactly. Just the other day the Daily Mail were saying the Nerve Agent was smeared over their Skripal's car door handles. Now the luggage but still not providing any sample. A sample could prove the origins or disprove. It's starting to look more like another WMD's sage - trial by media then action.
 
 
 
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