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pzjager

Rep: 12.3
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: Bir Hakeim Reply with quote

Hi,

Following SOC, I have started to work on a new CC5 mod, based on the battle of Bir Hakeim, between may and june,1942. This COULD be a very special mod, something between a "normal" mod and a pocket mod, on 21 maps and some 15 BG's each side. Please note that this small mod is not because I became lazy.... Bir Hakeim was historically a battle in which 3700 french soldiers did fight.... on an area of 15x15 kilometers area...

Are you interested? If so, please answer to this message and let's go back now from the iced steppes of Stalingrad to the warm african desert, mid 42.... With the heroic free frenchies, incircled in a "Kessel", but who finally WON! (Charles was definitively superior to Adolf!)

Cheers
Chasseur de Chars
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dgfred

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Ready, willing and able :Cool . Looking forward to it. Cheers, Greg


Sports Freak/ CC Commander/ Panzerblitz Commander
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Searry

Rep: 3.2
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:30 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm really interested in battles involving the french. Good luck.
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squadleader_id

Rep: 53.2
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesss! Great news, PJ!
I can already picture your trademark maps, this time is the North African desert setting. Good luck!
Then after Bir Hakeim...you can start 3rd Kharkov Wink
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karlmortar

Rep: 16.7
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Mmmmmmm....desert...

Sand in your cloths, in your food, in your ears and nose and crazy german soldiers battling the french....

ALRIGHT!!! Very Happy


"CC for ever"
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ANZAC_Tack

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:52 am Post subject: not to far away Reply with quote

the australians where never to far from the desert in 41/42,before the japs made us return, tobruk was the first time a german panzer unit was repulsed in WW2! and the same soldiers helped be the first to stop the japanese land army be repulsed in ww2!

swapping icycles for sand...anyday! little sun is nicer then black toes?


espree de corp
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pzjager

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: Reply with quote

karlmortar wrote:
german soldiers battling the french....
ALRIGHT!!! Very Happy


Just the opposite!

Cheers
PJ
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karlmortar

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

well, they are still fighting each other, right?


"CC for ever"
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HANSEAT

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:16 pm Post subject: La 1ère BFL/DFL Reply with quote

Bonjour à vous tous,

First : a great bravo to Pzjager and chapeau bas.

He is the CCS modder Stakhanovite.

I am especially touched about Bir Hakeim (I am not a war veteran, I am only 41, I am half-German by my mother, half-French by my father, have the two nationalities, did everything in France and go as much as I can to Bremen to see my grandmother, German is my mother tongue, the only military contact I had was my Service National as an appelé du contingent from 10/89 to 09/90 first ESMAT Châteauroux then the Brigade Franco-Allemande or Deutsch-Französische Brigade in Villingen, Germany, what I asked for pushed by personnal convictions, and my Christian name is Frédéric too).

Here a link where I happen to know a lot about the 1ère BFL which fight with the Brittish forces (only in French) :

http://www.francaislibres.net

Touched because for me and in my opinion this brigade with along the 2ème DFL was the core of the genuine FFL : an exotic bunch of free fighters (like the International Brigades in Spain or for exotism Bonaparte's troops of the campaign of Egypt; I played ANGV mods too and try to do Wagram mod very slowly and now more at snail pace since I became father of a nice daughter on March 13th this year) who at Bir Hakeim allowed to give to few French, because the majority of them were not French, their lost proud and military valour back.

Look at the orders of battle : amazing some Britons, French from everywhere and from Narvik, former Republican Spaniards of the Légion Etrangère (Republican Spaniards "la Nueve" du RMT former 2ème DFL with Cne Dronne "Mort aux cons" who were the first FFL to enter Paris) among other Europeans, Africans from "Oubangui-Chari", Tahitians, New-Caledonians, from New Hebrides, from North Africa and the Spahis, from the Antilles, from Madagascar, from India (Pondichéry), from the Levant (Syria and Lebanon) with even some Tcherkess or Circassians, From French Indochina and even from Bolivia and Columbia ?!

This is for me the "Fraternité" of our "Liberté, Egalité,..."

So "Free French" who participated in the liberation of Europe and so of France came from Africa (Egypt and the Chad) : and there there is a point with which I have a big "moral" problem (I find it personnally disgusting) : why our successive governments and our military authorities cannot pay and give what these "Africans" liberators veterans really deserves.

Should we only be contempted with the film "Indigènes" made by French we still sometimes called 3rd generation immigrants or wait that the last veteran dies to make national official burial like for our last Poilu Lazare Ponticelli (an Italian who became Frech in 1939) this March 12th 2008 (his biography is very worth reading) ?

That is why I am for Bir Hakeim and people who gives their live for what they believe.

I hope this will be not too controversial.
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