[schrecken]

Who has served in WWII?

How many got to use an interactive stratmap?

How many had to say damn, I can't drive 300 Panzers down this rutted forest road?


Didn't start this thread but it's taken on a life of it's own

[platoon_michael]

I agree with you on the strat map.Even with the two print outs I have (yours and the one that came with the game) it's hard to figure out.
Even when just moving from one unit to the next unit looking on what to move where becomes confusing.
And if you decide to take a look at the actual playing map when you go back to the strat map it doesnt put you back at the last location you were.(looks to me like it defaults to what will be the next battle) instead.
I hope to try and do a new strat map someday.
What I really wish for would be to have the original .tga with no grey shading,this would allow me to do a different strat map and keep with the original theame.
I just still cant believe the dimenions of the Normandy.tga

[mooxe]

[southern_land]

[schrecken]

I think some one mentioned that it's called "covering your flanks"... maybe it's not part of modern Canadian Defence force doctrine.

[mooxe]

Ok now make a joke about how theres 31 missing connections please.

[southern_land]

missing implies they were supposed to be there, absent means those lazy bloody belgiums couldn't be bothered to make their country flat with a road grid

the links are absent because those who designed the strat map thought about it and sought acheive more than a hex based wargame. yahh for their success.

badda bing, badda bang, prize bicth tell me what I won. Next question please?

[MossOrleni]

Actually, we no longer use the in-game stratmap except to execute the movement phase. Moves and fire support are done via an excel map I attached (I posted an earlier version over at Matrix).
As you can see, the purpose is not fancy graphics , but to quickly identify chokepoints and effective game distances between tactical maps. Yes, there's a grid , but its purpose is to quickly show distances from the German initial deployment area. (You would need at least 6 turns to reach the farthest maps). I agree that it makes the whole strategic phase a bit 'scientific', but at least you can link your tactical battles to a larger plan. Together with knowledge of the exit locations and entry deployment zones, IMHO this is essential to play a decent GC.

On the 'number of depots' issue: funny, but after completing one GC and currently playing another, one of the major conclusions we reached is that there actually too few Allied depots. The main reason is that once a German Panther BG reaches an Allied depot, it's over and out on that map for the Allied player. 8 Panther BGs and 9 Allied depots means the German player can seal off nearly the whole stratmap, which is effectively game over in a GC (count in KG Hansen for the 9th BG).

Cheers,

Moss

[schrecken]

[mooxe]

[schrecken]

I accept that you are confused

[platoon_michael]

The one glaring thing that comes to mind when viewing the strat map is why doesnt it look more like the BoB like the original CCIV strat map but instead looks more like a sack?

It does however almost look like it does provide both the option of the small solution and then the Fuhers original plan to the German player.

[platoon_michael]

After playing one GC as Allies and now playing one as the Germans
I dont really mind the connections anymore as it does create one heck of a mess for the Germans to break out in the North and around St Vith.
Moving around Bastogne does kinda suck a little though.

But it is confusing when looking at the mini-map
In some areas in the North and around the upper center the mini map makes it look like you have holes in your defense.

Due in part of the size of each town.

[platoon_michael]

bump