[davidssfx]

Here are the four Road to St. Lo .BTD files.

Back up your original similar files and put these in your TLD "MAPS" folder.
Unzip it first and move these four individual files out of the unzipped folder into the "MAPS" folder.

Start the Road to St. Lo Campaign

Remember to NOT click the "Select Date" button until "7" is displayed ... after all the landings

[graves101]

I just face-palmed when I read this on wiki.

"Another pathfinder team belonging to 9th Parachute Battalion, assigned to mark out the drop-zone area for the unit tasked with destroying the Merville artillery battery, was all but wiped out when an air-raid by RAF Avro Lancaster heavy bombers missed the artillery battery itself and bombed the area the team was in."

Also, considering Pegasus was really called the Caen Canal Bridge, and was only changed to Pegasus after the operation in relation to the Pegasus seen as the unit symbol of British Airborne, maybe that's the more appropriate name of the objective?

[Priapus]

heh. Perhaps you should simulate this event in our game. Historical realism is important.

[graves101]

Sure thing, I'll make sure to drop bombs wherever I see the guys running around in gray   , oh wait...

A sad fact is my stepbrother had a friend and roommate in the CAF get killed by U.S. A10 Thunderbolts in that friendly fire incident during Operation Medusa. It really churns my insides when I think about how combat is already dangerous enough just fighting the adversaries. Not to mention that disaster in Sicily when Allied vessels starting shooting at the 82nd's transport planes just before their drop and shot down 23 of their own planes, all filled with paras.

But one thing about TLD that kinda miffs me, is why are the American paratroopers all green at "experienced" and "high morale", while the British (who I'd imagine received similar training) are only yellow with "seen action" and "good/high morale", seems kinda demeaning...

I know the American 1st Division has distinctly better troops than the 4th or 29th since it had seen serious action in Operations Torch and Husky. I see how divisions with previous experience in combat have superior troops. In that case, it is somewhat appropriate that 6th British Airborne division (since D-Day is its first engagement, as the 1st AB Division was the one at Sicily) be slightly lower. But, that being the case, it was also only the 82nd at Sicily, while the 101st would be fighting for the first time at Normandy. Why are the 82nd and 101st virtually the same in stats?

[Pzt_Kanov]

The american paras of both divisions have the same stats because they share the same teams, for them to be different there would need to be another set of teams with different experience. I think it would be pretty interesting to try that, don't know about the limits of the files and if the game will allow for an inclusion of some 10 new teams with out crashing, but it would be cool if it worked. Also agreed that the brits and americans should be on the same level of experience.

I think that there needs to be more variety anyway, the allied team roster seems so dry and with out flavor, there needs to be a couple of variations of the same kind of teams at least, to spice things up. I actually would like to see a limited set of teams for the paras on the first night turn, no more than 25 squads per BG composed of small teams, say no more than 5 soldiers, some with out weapons, others with captured weapons etc. then you can have standard teams in the Force pool on the morning or next day and for the rest of the campaign.

[graves101]

I really like that idea of having special para units on the 1st night round. But that would be a doosy to try and implement. How I figure it, they would have to represent the loss of weapons and men in the drop. So, I don't know if you can randomize the contents of a unit when it's first activated, but it would be really cool for these special units to come with a random factor of between 3 to 5 men and each man is randomized with what weapon he is using, either garand, carbine, thompson, colt, maybe some German weapons, or nothing at all. Then there's how many of these units would be required in a BG on that night round. Somewhere like 5-10 of these units would be enforced on the Allied player to use, kinda like how units are disorganized and remained fixed in the active roster. Then, they would need to be only available on this one round, and after that the BG somehow reverts back to using normal units. The only problem here, is you'll lose those units that gained experience in the first round of fighting. Is it somehow possible to retain the specific soldiers who fought, and reorganize them back into normal units? Kinda like when a veteran squad is decimated, and only a few veteran soldiers remain, then those vets are placed into other units on the active roster.

Plus, I saw that amongst the Allied BGs that form the beach landings, there were certain BGs (American 1st Big Red One Div) using superior units than other BGs with the same units in their rosters. Aren't those an example of same teams with different skill levels? I don't don't if Big Red One used a separate selection of units, but they had Rifle Teams, BAR Teams, just like 4th Div and 29 Div, only at a higher experience level.

[Pzt_Kanov]

[schrecken]

Try this 101st with less experience data tweak

back up your fpools.txt and alsteams.txt files first

[schrecken]

LOL

5 days and not one download.

you guys don't really want feature enhancements do you?

maybe you just want to moan and whine?

[mooxe]

[schrecken]

It was aimed directly at those requesting it.... not a general community mod.

it really is a demonstration of exactly what the above posters were asking for.

it is something to be tried discussed anfd then built on.

[graves101]

Sorry Schreck, it's just that we're holding off until GT 1.5 comes out to start playing CC again. I'm grateful for what you did, and I'll certainly be implementing it when we do start again. I'm sure it needs no testing, just, what levels did you set the 101st at? Is it on the same level as the 6th Brit AB Div? I think that would be perfect, if you did.

Are we whining? Probably. But we're just discussing and going down the list of things we are looking to change, making sure we can get it all perfect for our playing-style before we start another camp (we've restarted at least 4-5 times, I can't remember anymore). We might be a little anal, but I think what's being worked on will benefit whoever plays TLD in the future.

Thanks again for all the hard work, everyone.

[schrecken]

NP..

I was looking for feedback as I was considering implementing bthe Ad-Hoc /scattered teams you mentioned.... but need to know if I'm on the right track.

[schrecken]

Updated 101st and 82nd to have scattered teams on the first day - really needs a combination of scattered and formed teams, so will look at that after the 6th AB.

the cattered teams have lowered morale.

2nd day the 82nd will have stock tLD teams and the 101st the less experienced teams in the above attachment.

one problem with a mixture of formed and scattered teams is tha AI will pick the stronger formed teams first, which works against the idea of including the scattered teams.

[graves101]

Cool Beans.

What do these scattered teams include? I would imagine 1/3 to 2/3 of the active roster should be scattered, 5 to 10 units.

As for the AI, I only know that when I play against it, I pretty much choose the units myself for them every battle. I typically give them the standard layout of what I'd expect myself to bring to battle.