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Tippi-Simo

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:35 pm Post subject: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

Hey all,

I just wanted to make a short poll here.
How many of you believe that we are different races (Caucasians,Asians,Blacks plus others).?
Or are we the same?


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schrecken

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

There's two

Us and the Finns
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vonB

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

Chortle...
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Andreus

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

Black, white, yellow and... Green!


You know, I'm just a normal guy like everyone else. Why, my friends say, "Andreus you're just so cool because you're normal just like everyone else." Yep, normal that's me. - Fallout 2
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davidssfx

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

FROM DARWIN TO HITLER:

EVOLUTIONARY ETHICS, EUGENICS, AND RACISM IN GERMANY

by

Richard Weikart
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Priapus

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:24 am Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

We are all the same species. Science has proven this. fin.
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Hoogley

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:40 am Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

Terran, Protoss and Zerg.


"I have come here to kick ass and chew bubblegum... and I'm all out of bubblegum." - They Live
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graves101

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_genetics


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papa_whisky

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

*Yawns* @ Tippo-Simo you really are a pathetic
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pvt_Grunt

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

CC has nationalities, not races.
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7A_Woulf

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

Laughing   Laughing   Laughing

My only reply to this:



Look at the banner...  Rolling Eyes


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Hoogley

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

Interestingly enough, this question got me wondering: what does the delineation of "race" actually mean, anyway?

So, I referenced Wikipedia:

Race (biological) wrote:
In biology, races are distinct genetically divergent populations within the same species with relatively small morphological and genetic differences. The populations can be described as ecological races if they arise from adaptation to different local habitats or geographic races when they are geographically isolated. If sufficiently different, two or more races can be identified as subspecies, which is an official biological taxonomy unit subordinate to species. If not, they are denoted as races, which means that a a formal rank should not be given to the group, or taxonomists are unsure whether or not a formal rank should be given. According to Ernst W. Mayr, "a subspecies is a geographic race that is sufficiently different taxonomically to be worthy of a separate name"


Race (classification of humans) wrote:
Race refers to the classification of humans into populations or groups based on various factors such as culture, language, social practice or heritable characteristics.[1]
Conceptions and groupings of races vary over time and reflect societal customs [2][3][4] in defining essential types of individuals based on perceived sets of traits.
As a biological term, race describes genetically divergent populations of humans that can be marked by common phenotypic and genotypic traits.[5] This sense of race is often used in forensic anthropology analyzing skeletal remains, biomedical research, and race-based medicine.[6]
Race, however, has no official biological taxonomic significance — all humans belong to the same hominid subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens.[7][8] Nor is there scientific basis for any racial or ethnic hierarchy.[9][10]
The study of shared traits among peoples is also conducted along ethnic lines, involving the endogamic history of groups.


So, the total value of meaning given to biological race is "relatively small morphological and genetic differences/divergence within a species"

Whereas, the total value of meaning for race (classification of humans) starts with the biological value and has the addition of "the classification of humans into populations or groups based on various factors such as culture, language, social practice or heritable characteristics" which is allocated a conditional/variable of "varies over time and reflects societal customs", with the subtractive, "Race has no official biological taxonomic significance — all humans belong to the same hominid subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens. Nor is there scientific basis for any racial or ethnic hierarchy."

It seems to me then that the term "race" when relating to humans starts to become a bit abstruse and hence actually looses value of meaning by it's impurity of definition.  

Likewise, from a purely biological definition it's used to delineate fairly minor variances and hence holds a reasonably insignificant position in the  taxonomical pyramid.

So, to answer the question as best I can:

[Do] you believe that we are different races (Caucasians,Asians,Blacks plus others).?  Depends what your definition of "race" is.

are we the same? Depends what your definition of "same" is.

Well, I hope that clears everything up.


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vonB

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

Quote:
Well, I hope that clears everything up.


Yup, sure does...  Cool though it depends what your definition is of 'hope', 'clears', and 'everything'...

Sometimes, I think I am from a different planet... or is that just my wife telling me in my less lucid moments...  Wink
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Andreus

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

7A_Woulf wrote (View Post):
Laughing   Laughing   Laughing

My only reply to this:



Look at the banner...  Rolling Eyes


Got that same banner Woulf  Laughing ! I thought those adds were set by google for the user, not the website...


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kawasaky

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

vonB wrote (View Post):
my wife

eh now! those WIVES creatures are some other race Razz
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7A_Woulf

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

Andreus wrote (View Post):

Got that same banner Woulf  Laughing ! I thought those adds were set by google for the user, not the website...


OMG! If that's the case with Google, I wonder what the kids are doing by the computer when I don't look!?

"Interracial dating"
"Find your Russian beauty"
"Find your Vietnamese beauty"

-Hell, I don't use dating sites to get turned down, when I can go to the pub and get drunk while doing it!  Wink


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Therion

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:01 am Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

Hoogley wrote (View Post):
Interestingly enough, this question got me wondering: what does the delineation of "race" actually mean, anyway?

So, I referenced Wikipedia:

Race (biological) wrote:
In biology, races are distinct genetically divergent populations within the same species with relatively small morphological and genetic differences. The populations can be described as ecological races if they arise from adaptation to different local habitats or geographic races when they are geographically isolated. If sufficiently different, two or more races can be identified as subspecies, which is an official biological taxonomy unit subordinate to species. If not, they are denoted as races, which means that a a formal rank should not be given to the group, or taxonomists are unsure whether or not a formal rank should be given. According to Ernst W. Mayr, "a subspecies is a geographic race that is sufficiently different taxonomically to be worthy of a separate name"


Race (classification of humans) wrote:
Race refers to the classification of humans into populations or groups based on various factors such as culture, language, social practice or heritable characteristics.[1]
Conceptions and groupings of races vary over time and reflect societal customs [2][3][4] in defining essential types of individuals based on perceived sets of traits.
As a biological term, race describes genetically divergent populations of humans that can be marked by common phenotypic and genotypic traits.[5] This sense of race is often used in forensic anthropology analyzing skeletal remains, biomedical research, and race-based medicine.[6]
Race, however, has no official biological taxonomic significance — all humans belong to the same hominid subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens.[7][8] Nor is there scientific basis for any racial or ethnic hierarchy.[9][10]
The study of shared traits among peoples is also conducted along ethnic lines, involving the endogamic history of groups.


So, the total value of meaning given to biological race is "relatively small morphological and genetic differences/divergence within a species"

Whereas, the total value of meaning for race (classification of humans) starts with the biological value and has the addition of "the classification of humans into populations or groups based on various factors such as culture, language, social practice or heritable characteristics" which is allocated a conditional/variable of "varies over time and reflects societal customs", with the subtractive, "Race has no official biological taxonomic significance — all humans belong to the same hominid subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens. Nor is there scientific basis for any racial or ethnic hierarchy."

It seems to me then that the term "race" when relating to humans starts to become a bit abstruse and hence actually looses value of meaning by it's impurity of definition.  

Likewise, from a purely biological definition it's used to delineate fairly minor variances and hence holds a reasonably insignificant position in the  taxonomical pyramid.

So, to answer the question as best I can:

[Do] you believe that we are different races (Caucasians,Asians,Blacks plus others).?  Depends what your definition of "race" is.

are we the same? Depends what your definition of "same" is.

Well, I hope that clears everything up.


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mr-jaakoxe

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: Race, how many there are.. Reply with quote

schrecken wrote (View Post):
There's two

Us and the Finns


wy others and finns? Shocked
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