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Therion

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: Fanatics and the Soldier Reply with quote

karlmortar wrote (View Post):
The rest of you seems to be racists that hates EVERY german for something that their country did over 65 years ago.

Nice strawman Laughing . Seriously, don't try to use these kinds of tricks on a history fans forum.

karlmortar wrote (View Post):
not to mentioning the killing of thousends of civilians in further conflicts like Korea, Vietnam

Both in Korea and Vietnam, Americans were defending these countries from the communist war of aggression. Seriously, what the fuck? First you do everything to demonize the Commies and suddenly Americans become evil civilian killers for trying to stop them from taking over another countries and committing more attracities?
If anything, Americans should be accused for their cowardly abandonment of South Vietnamese despite giving them security guarantees - which caused hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths.

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What? China stopped being communist some time ago. It's exploitative capitalist now.


The last time I checked, China is still a communist totalitarian state (In it's own ways).

Yeah, China is totally communist Laughing .
Especially with private sector accounting for 70% of their GDP Laughing .

Tippi-Simo wrote (View Post):
War is always total war.

No, it isn't. You can wage a limited war, to capture one city or a specific region, for example.

Tippi-Simo wrote (View Post):
No need to cry for handful of jews which were killed.

Yeah, because the crimes of Nazi Germany and it's supporters were totally, like limited to killing a "handful of jews". How about destroying peace in Europe, bandit invasions on several European nations, destruction of unimaginable amounts of property, mass robberies, slavery and murdering millions of white Europeans?


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dj

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:17 am Post subject: Re: Fanatics and the Soldier Reply with quote

Looking back...how did I forget that favorite Soviet propaganda claim of America (selective) genocide of the Native Americans.  This is true and America has own internal shame over this history from the beginning of America all the way to end of 1800's.  However America has made permanent commitment to Native Americans with social programs, reservations, and $  

Well America DID commit to helping the South Vietnam military.  The problem is that the U.S. Budget got drastically cut for funding the South Vietnam military.  Everything soon fell apart afterwards.  That time the USA was beginning to have serious financial and economic problems...so I do not think America had much choice to cut the budget.  

There is no such thing as 100% Communist, 100% Socialist, or 100% Capitalist society.  This is popular urban legend in America right now.  Radicals label certain political agenda as "socialist" or "marxist" as scare tactics.  Yes China implemented private sector economic reforms beginning in the late 80's but they are still considered Communist as is Vietnam.  So as in the example of negotiating peace terms with the Taliban in Afganistan this year...America has come full circle with our former Communist enemies.  So much so that China is the USA #1 trading partner and assembles the vast majority of our goods. Again same story with Vietnam with rapid expansion of trade with USA.  It is a good question on evolution of Communism and Capitalism.  The main thing appears to be "one party state" with total government control over media, birth control, etc.

Here is a map and explanation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_communist_states

F the Neo-Nazi's.  But even in America they are entitled to our Constitutional 1st Amendment rights.  It disgust me how they along with many of their American right-wing extremists allies are always trying to downplay the extent of the Holocaust...or even how much other white people suffered.


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Therion

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:01 am Post subject: Re: Fanatics and the Soldier Reply with quote

dj wrote (View Post):
It is a good question on evolution of Communism and Capitalism.  The main thing appears to be "one party state" with total government control over media, birth control, etc.

Communism didn't evolve in countries that ended up moving to socialism or capitalism. It simply died because it didn't work. Their talk about how they are "communist" is just a propaganda of their government which serves as a justification of their human right abuses. After all they are like they are to protect their precious communist revolution. Without communism there isn't any reason for their existence.


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Tippi-Simo

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: Fanatics and the Soldier Reply with quote

I think dj has been drinking too much Kool Aid.
Keep up the good work brotha.

Typical Obongo voter libtard.


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dj

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:12 am Post subject: Re: Fanatics and the Soldier Reply with quote

Very good - did you copy / paste that from one of your favorite David Duke white surpremist Tea Klux Klan or Neo-Nazi websites?


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Tippi-Simo

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:24 am Post subject: Re: Fanatics and the Soldier Reply with quote

Did you even read what you wrote? No you didn´t.

You made allied war crimes acceptable because after the war Yankees rebuilt Europe and Japan.
By thinking that way SS human tests in camps and tests by Unit 731 were justified because it boosted medicine.

Don´t write that long posts. You already forgot what you wrote 3 sentences before.

Change, you keep the change.


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Wastemoreland

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Fanatics and the Soldier Reply with quote

A guy from my country( Faroe Islands) who was captured by the germans, somehow ended in a KZ camp.
       When asked in an interview if the germans were kind or not, he said "well.........they were fond of their dogs"
I guess thats one way of saying it  Very Happy
I haven´t read all the posts here, but I firmly believe that there is no such thing as an all out "evil" army no matter where it originates, and no matter whom it is set loose upon. War is cruel! no other way to describe it.  One should also note here, that ALOT of german soldiers comitted suicide. Wouldn´t mind knowing those numbers if they exist. They couldn´t live with it see. So instead of refusing orders and such they just took the easy way out. In the end I think that 7A_Woulf wins this debate. Very sound arguments. Here is an example of a good compassionate german high ranking soldier, go ahead read up on him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKAnD9Dn6VE&feature=fvsr  Crying or Very sad
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Wastemoreland

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: Fanatics and the Soldier Reply with quote

dj wrote (View Post):
Very good - did you copy / paste that from one of your favorite David Duke white surpremist Tea Klux Klan or Neo-Nazi websites?


Why do people insist on calling Dr Duke a white supremacist? When in fact all he does is to stand up for white people. I´ve NEVER heard the man give so much as a hint to harm or supress people, no matter what their race, religion etc. But I supose us white folks don´t deserve to have someone standing up for us. We are just to damn evil. So that right should be exclusive to blacks, asians, and so forth. In fact I need to go stand in the corner now to cry and sob, and ask for forgiveness for all the indians and jews "we" murdered. Funny how the word "we" is often used. We killed the indians. We killed the jews. I didn´t kill anybody!
I´m sick of this god damn guilt always being portrayed on white people!  Mad
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dj

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:28 am Post subject: Re: Fanatics and the Soldier Reply with quote

What is this website the new Nazi-lover hang out?  You can invent your own ideas but you can't invent your own facts.  So when Bush was President Muslims were okay and now all of sudden when Obama is President now all the white pride Confederates get all excited and ant to impeach him.  Relax Obuga is not a Muslim, he is only 1/2 black and 1/2 white, not going to steal your guns, or force you to become gay or give all your $ to those dark-skinned lazy people on welfare to pump out babies and steal your tax $.

David Duke is not white power fanatic?

"Duke appeared at a demonstration in Nazi uniform. Picketing and holding parties on the anniversary of Adolf Hitler's birth, he became notorious on the LSU campus for wearing a Nazi uniform.  Duke founded the Louisiana-based Knights of the Ku Klux Klan (KKKK), a Louisiana Ku Klux Klan organization, shortly after graduating from LSU.  He became Grand Wizard of the KKKK"

This thread is done.  All you Nazi-lover Jew basher, Obunga haters should go to one of your own David Duke white power fanatic websites.


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Wastemoreland

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Fanatics and the Soldier Reply with quote

Yeah and he was like 16 years old when he did that stunt. And his section of the clan never did any violant acts, neither encouraged others to do so. As for Obama I have nothing to say about him,  he´s boring I guess  Confused
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Therion

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:29 am Post subject: Re: Fanatics and the Soldier Reply with quote

Tippi-Simo wrote (View Post):
Did you even read what you wrote? No you didn´t.

You made allied war crimes acceptable because after the war Yankees rebuilt Europe and Japan.
By thinking that way SS human tests in camps and tests by Unit 731 were justified because it boosted medicine.

So, how were these SS human tests in camps and tests by Unit 731 helping to end the German and Japanese reign of terror?


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