[pvt_Grunt]

As the subject says, Is Libya a war? Or a battle? An uprising, revolution or terrorist campaign. What's the difference anyway?
Your thoughts, as the endgame for Quadaffi approaches...........

[MajorFrank]

It's a 'democratic coup d'etat'.

[0202243]

[pagskier]

it's a civil war for sure!

[MajorFrank]

I wonder how much casualties the rebel forces have taken so far. This thing has gone on for some time now, Gaddafi put up a surprisingly spritited fight with his merc-troops and loyalists.

Edit. Wikipedia refers to the thing as civil war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Libyan_civil_war

[southern_land]

[pvt_Grunt]

I personally deem it a war when someone asks for a CC mod  

[Blackstump]

In other words... people who supported the system for 30 years and more now want to take the power themselves.
Fighting is fighting, killing is killing and war is war... nevertheless what they promise the people, nothing will change  [/quote]
spot on.. your dead right.. next in line step up!!

[0202243]

[Therion]

[Blackstump]

Yes roll the dice, see what you get, couldn't be worse could it..
Then again A. Hitler, J.Stalin, I. Amin, P. Pot.. etc do come to mind.
People of the free democracies should be thankful, and ever wary of their political position.
The abyss is there for everybody to see.

[pvt_Grunt]

[MajorFrank]

Saying in the media here that Gaddafi might have access to a so called dirty bomb, that is a nuke device of some type.

[dj]

The Libya situation is a load of bullcrap.  Several years ago President Bush lifted sanctions and conducted multi-billion $ oil deal for his Big Oil constituents.  Despite the fact Colonel Kadafy is a terrorist responsible for the Lockerbie incident.  2 years ago Conservative American Senators Graham and McCain met with Kadafy in person and praised him as good guy and partner against terrorism.  Wikileaks recently exposed these frauds - with comments how they promised Kadafy free military equipment and C130 aircraft as favor for his "partnership".  Which had not crap about real alliance...it was simply about making $ for the industrial lobbyist donors.  How totally disingenuous of these Senators...whom first praised Kadify as partner on behalf of their Big $ political donors....then AFTER the Libyan rebellion, now all of sudden pretend they do not like Kadafy.

Let's not kid ourselves, it's all about the $.  It's never about "the people" or human rights unless the Corporatists can get $ out of the deal.  British Petreleum and American Oil did huge deals with Kadafy and then he was our friend.  Then the west pretends he is bad guy when Kadafy is politically out of favor.  Not much different than the Iraq situation under Hussein in many respects.

[MajorFrank]

Now they're saying there have been an undisclosed number of SAS soldiers fighting with the rebels for weeks who are now chasing Gaddafi. I wonder if that was according to the original UN mandate...

[kweniston]

DJ is right. Oil $$ are the deciding factor for the West being involved in Libya, while letting the Syrians get slaughtered in the meantime. It's the way the world turns, not much you can do, just be aware of it and not be too self righteous.

[kawasaky]

The whole situation might as well become a huge embarrassment fot the NATO, because there are a lot of jihadist-salafists on the anti-Gaddafi side, not to mention that this, until recently, loose tribal union called Libya might as well relapse into a tribal anarchy.

But yes, it is a war.

[kawasaky]

And just 5 days after the previous post:
http://www.debka.com/article/21259/

Or in Ray Charles style - Tell me what d'say?

[MajorFrank]

Well I think the fact that there have been Al Queda elements among the rebels has been known for some time, I remember hearing about that many weeks, even months ago.

[kawasaky]

yes, but now it is "official"