Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Was 10 years enough?
I'm verry sorry to hear that but in the meantime, if u'll than decide to shut it down, i will thank you anyway for what this great site meant to me.
Not to mention the discover of ccmodding, and the h2h games, but trough here i met my actual best friend, which i personally met, and many great (sure not all, but the most hehe) people.
As an admin, you have even been always kind in case of need.
In these years, i haven't been always much active but it's always a pleasure to contribute. At the moment it's even the only community in which i contribute, from time to time.
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: Was 10 years enough?
After 10 yrs, understand why you would want to call it quits. Thanks for all the work and support you've given the series and fans over the years. It's made a big difference.
Hope someone else could manage this or an alternative site if it's time to retire.
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Was 10 years enough?
I would be gutted to see it go to, but really understand why. I rarely post here, but use the site quite often to check up on what is happening. I don't get a lot of time to play any more but download all the new mods incase.
This site seems to have the most up to date info, i don't find a lot of people posting at Matrix, what other sites do people use for CC out of interest?
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:44 am Post subject: Re: Was 10 years enough?
Hi all;
Been away for so long.
Congratulation to Mooxe to be able to keep time and energy on CCS.
It'snt a shame to loose feeling to keep the site alive.
It will be for sure a problem for many user of CCS to loose it.
But the problem coming from game dev that didnt offer us some really new engine game o keep the community stronger.
And after playing all those new CC i have to admit that CC was going to die anyway since some years.
I hope for the communty than someone will continue your work.
Because for CC gamer it's a must to keep it alive.
Tout est possible ... il faut juste connaitre quand.
This is sad news, I was hoping to get some feedback on our work on TBF as I beleive interaction is vital to the succes for the next gen.
This.
My hope is on a TBF-inspired CC revival. And to do that imho, you need to target a younger audience. Mooxe is moving on, and so have a lot of old players. Hell, the majority of people who watch my youtube channel are in their 40's and 50's (my dad's generation). Sadly, there's not enough younger people being attracted to the out-dated graphics, poor AI, and frustratingly buggy gameplay of the old-gen 2d games.
What we need is fresh blood, and a lot of it! So do everything you can to target people in their late teens and 20's
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Was 10 years enough?
If the next CC will be available for Ipads, what are the modding capabilities? Modding has increased the interest for the series That together with Ipad releases would probably be a good way to get attention from the younger generation.
Although I don't have an Ipad, or even the interest in getting one I think that the mod ability for Ipads will be crucial in keeping the interest that may be sparked by the release. Just as it has helped the pc CC community survive this long.
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Was 10 years enough?
Hey Mooxe, It will be a bummer to see the site go, even though life has occured I still check the site every other day. that being said 10 years is a long time dedicated to keeping this going. hopefully someone may be able to take over. thanks for all of your efforts
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: Was 10 years enough?
Ok, here's my video response. Bottom line: I don't think this site should close, at least not until maybe six months after the Bloody First has come out. And I think the community needs to stick together.
I also discuss the "next generation issue" which a lot of you old-timers seem to be worried about
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:22 pm Post subject: Re: Was 10 years enough?
OK,
I watched the video response. More than likely, no matter the format of the game (3d/2d), or the age of the players, Close Combat is going to be a niche game.
So, I am not sure what we are trying to protect or preserve here. Is it the domain, the community, the old downloads, our relationships with one another, or a special person that we realize has the capacity for a detailed task.
So, what is stopping anyone from putting up a CC fan site now? No matter what mooxe does or doesn't do?
Or is mooxe, just one of those special people that is going to succeed where the rest of us might fail?
Is there really any problem with having 2 CC fan sites? If not, then let's go, and stop worrying about it.
I watched the video response. More than likely, no matter the format of the game (3d/2d) Close Combat is going to be a niche game.
Agreed. But the 3D might give us more players.
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So, I am not sure what we are trying to protect or preserve here. Is it the domain, the community, the old downloads, our relationships with one another, or a special person that we realize has the capacity for a detailed task.
I'd say all of the above. If I had to pick one, it would be the community.
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So, what is stopping anyone from putting up a CC fan site now? No matter what mooxe does or doesn't do?
Nothing, techically. But what's the point in closing one good site down just to make another?
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Or is mooxe, just one of those special people that is going to succeed where the rest of us might fail?
Mooxe has done a very good job with CCS over the last 10 years. Hell, I'd have gone insane having to put up with you lot for that length of time
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Is there really any problem with having 2 CC fan sites? If not, then let's go, and stop worrying about it.
No, I guess not. However, CCS is well-known and well-established. What's the point of shutting one site down just to create another that serves the same purpose, especially when it would be like starting from the beginning (10 years ago) again?
So, I am not sure what we are trying to protect or preserve here. Is it the domain, the community, the old downloads, our relationships with one another, or a special person that we realize has the capacity for a detailed task.
That's the question. The answer is probably all of them. I listened to TIK's response as well. To answer a couple of his questions.. the site makes money from donations and Google Ads. That money goes directly to the bill of $59 per month, there's enough saved up for the next three months, and I'm 36 years old haha... I have not paid out of pocket any substantial amount for years now due to donations and ads.
If anyone wants to start another Close Combat site please feel free to use these forums to promote it. A new site can offer a different outlook, my outlook has been pretty bleak since Matrix and I never tried to hide it. You could focus on the new versions rather than all. There's better software out there to integrate social media commenting and videos. There's no shortage of do-dads to make a new site worthwhile and popular. CCS is what-you-see-is-what-you-get from here till the end! Have a look at CSO, he's toying with Joomla (www.closecombat.org/CSO), not sure what his plans are though.
Remember I have not decided to close CCS. I am contemplating it, the new releases will factor in my future decision.
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:07 am Post subject: Re: Was 10 years enough?
I came here because of TheImperatorKnight's Video about the site shutting down. LINK
I love close combat I played it almost daily when I was about 15 on wards (I am currently 25 years old.)
I will agree with him that if done right that a 3D version of Close Combat will bring in more players. But only if people know about it not many of my friends know about close combat and they are "Hardcore" Strategy gamers.
If the Site shut down is in stone then I would highly recommend creating a profile for the Close Combat games on IndieDB. You can find IndieDB here. Which will allow people to post their tools, Mods, etc. for close combat onto the IndieDB site.
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:16 am Post subject: Re: Was 10 years enough?
Mooxe,
I was not altogether surprised to hear that you are packing it in after 10 years at the helm of CCS. Frankly with all the recent negative chat about CC
series coming to an end it seems natural that this would eventually happen. I have always been an avid fan and player (SP) of CC ever since I
bought my first game CCI back in 1996. While I am not a techie or a developer of mods I love the games and the CCS site which has really
the mainstay to CC and its fans.
Well Mooxe you have been and still are the the one key player in keeping Close Combat alive through this site. I sincerely thank you for all the time
and effort you devoted to CCS and us.
Good luck to you.
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:24 am Post subject: Re: Was 10 years enough?
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Remember I have not decided to close CCS. I am contemplating it, the new releases will factor in my future decision.
CM was in the start a 3d version of CC you know and have seen a few shots of the new version of CM. I'm not so sure how matrix will play into that crowd just getting into it after all those years.
I hope it will play up with new users, but still wonder if it has a core crowd of gamers in the 40's-60's, as is the old clan I belonged to in CC years ago inwhich many play CM still.
As for this site disappearing? I'd really, really miss it, as posted earlier.. STWA's humor (sometimes intentional and sometimes not) seeing some get in a tissy at times and the knowledge of others posted here with your work.
If the Site shut down is in stone then I would highly recommend creating a profile for the Close Combat games on IndieDB. You can find IndieDB here. Which will allow people to post their tools, Mods, etc. for close combat onto the IndieDB site.
Thank for coming. Looks like IndieDB is ModDB. That would be a great spot to go. There's a few modders over there now. I just seen that Firefox ported Ebro to TLD. Looks like I made an account in 2008.... To make a "CCS" over there you'd have to make a dev group. You can put up downloads, have forums, post videos, news.... looks pretty good!
If theres anyone willing to take the lead on setting up a Close Combat dev group at ModDB I will help!
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If the Site shut down is in stone then I would highly recommend creating a profile for the Close Combat games on IndieDB. You can find IndieDB here. Which will allow people to post their tools, Mods, etc. for close combat onto the IndieDB site.
Thank for coming. Looks like IndieDB is ModDB. That would be a great spot to go. There's a few modders over there now. I just seen that Firefox ported Ebro to TLD. Looks like I made an account in 2008.... To make a "CCS" over there you'd have to make a dev group. You can put up downloads, have forums, post videos, news.... looks pretty good!
If theres anyone willing to take the lead on setting up a Close Combat dev group at ModDB I will help!
I would be willing to take initiative on this. I am one of the regulars over on Moddb/Indiedb.
Personally I want to see closecombatseries.net live on one way or another. Under different leadership or the current leadership.
I am planning on having a 3D game engine developed for a game similar to Close Combat.
However I want it to be open source or at the very least very modifiable via an open toolset similar to Skyrim's Creation Kit (Just an Example on ease of use.)
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:08 am Post subject: Re: Was 10 years enough?
Why to keep CCS alive will vary by person. Can a lot of the functionality be covered by another website? Probably. And maybe with the 3D version coming it might be the right time as my 2nd and 3rd points maybe won't matter anymore if everyone's moves to it....
If we stick with all the current CC versions then this is the site because;
1) the lack of change you mentioned MOOXE for some of us is a positive as there is not many sites where you can go away for a period of time then come back and feel right at home.
2) The collection of mods and tools for CC is the best anywhere.
3) The tips for mod makers or playing within the forums is the best anywhere.
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:26 am Post subject: Re: Was 10 years enough?
Just reading my post again and want to add that if CCS keeps going and the 3D version is a hit there is no reason CCS can't be the goto site for it's players!
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and found this site to thier liking. I hope you had time to check out some
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