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johnsilver

Rep: 61.3
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

I am having a difficult time understanding how O-Idiot finally made an intelligent foreign policy decision for the 1st time ever. Possibly because he doesn't want to look like the biggest idiot ever in the history of US presidents ever  after losing a won war (Irag) and by announcing in advance an out date(Aphganistan) to give your enemy a great go get started and chase your opponent all over the place before hand..

Well.. Here is the fine thing he figured out to do to save his bacon.. his "hail mary" in Iraq:

Obama directly arming Kurds

Short of directly sending in boots on the ground? Arm the ONLY people in that God for saken place who actually have an agenda/will to fight for what is right.. Their own land they can call their own when it's all said and done and the Kurds have always been known as fighters.

The only hope is that the rest of the world doesn't sell them out if they can manage to stop the bleeding going on in Iraq.

Now also they have to hope 0-0-bama will continue to send them military supplies to continue the fight against those Isis thugs and not just long enough to put a dent in them since we know he's gutless and dislikes offending anyone, regardless of whether or not they are terrorists.
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Stwa

Rep: 308.9
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

dj wrote (View Post):
By the way, despite all of Sarah Palin's pep rallies and Conservative Religion Talibans in the GOP ranks...


I have been meaning to ask you, what is up with you and Sarah Palin. What has she ever done to you?

It always starts with petty remarks, but leads to complete objectification. Remember David Letterman, he had to pretend she was a Flight Attendant.

So maybe you will pretend she is a Moose Hunter. Just remember, she is married and a mother.


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dj

Rep: 157.1
votes: 9


PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:00 am Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

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dj wrote (View Post):
The needless assault on sovereign Arab nation only worsens the War on Hearts and Minds.  You can't win an ideological war when you try to go to their level and attack an entire religious ideology.


Well, why don't you tell that to Al Baghdadi and ISIS, you brainless libtard. They have been going at it for almost 1400 years.  Exclamation

The historic background of the Sunni–Shia split lies in the schism that occurred when the Islamic prophet Muhammad died in the year 632, leading to a dispute over succession to Muhammad as a caliph of the Islamic community spread across various parts of the world, which led to the Battle of Siffin. The dispute intensified greatly after the Battle of Karbala, in which Hussein ibn Ali and his household were killed by the ruling Umayyad Caliph Yazid I, and the outcry for his revenge divided the early Islamic community... Sectarian violence persists to this day from Pakistan to Yemen and is a major element of friction throughout the Middle East. Tensions between communities have intensified during power struggles, such as the Bahraini uprising, the Iraq War, and most recently the Syrian Civil War and the formation of the self-styled Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant and its advancement on Syria and Northern Iraq. -wiki

Shia-Sunni Relations


Such an ironic statement from you...NO CLUE.  It's pointless to even bother with you.  Who do you think the enemy is?


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dj

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:12 am Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

johnsilver wrote (View Post):
I am having a difficult time understanding how O-Idiot finally made an intelligent foreign policy decision for the 1st time ever. Possibly because he doesn't want to look like the biggest idiot ever in the history of US presidents ever  after losing a won war (Irag) and by announcing in advance an out date(Aphganistan) to give your enemy a great go get started and chase your opponent all over the place before hand..

Well.. Here is the fine thing he figured out to do to save his bacon.. his "hail mary" in Iraq:

Obama directly arming Kurds

Short of directly sending in boots on the ground? Arm the ONLY people in that God for saken place who actually have an agenda/will to fight for what is right.. Their own land they can call their own when it's all said and done and the Kurds have always been known as fighters.

The only hope is that the rest of the world doesn't sell them out if they can manage to stop the bleeding going on in Iraq.

Now also they have to hope 0-0-bama will continue to send them military supplies to continue the fight against those Isis thugs and not just long enough to put a dent in them since we know he's gutless and dislikes offending anyone, regardless of whether or not they are terrorists.


John - you really are overthinking this way too hard, I know Limbaugh and friends are slamming Obama 24 x 7...planning impeachments or lawsuits or what not.  Did Bush Sr. or Sec. Cheney help the Kurds in first Gulf War?  Did Reagan withdraw troops from Lebanon?  Not that this would ever be mentioned in the Conservative media machine.  Nor how Obama has deported more illegals than any other President in history despite pressure from militant special interest groups.  Now Obama is getting a lot of pushback from some in the left about intervening in Iraq.  Maliki is getting pressure to leave.
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Stwa

Rep: 308.9
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:24 am Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

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Such an ironic statement from you...NO CLUE.  It's pointless to even bother with you.  Who do you think the enemy is?


OK dood, but you are messin up beeg time.  Exclamation  Arrow

Sunnis believe that Abu Bakr, the father of Muhammad's wife Aisha, was Muhammad's rightful successor and that the method of choosing or electing leaders (Shura) endorsed by the Quran is the consensus of the Ummah (the Muslim community).

Shias believe that Muhammad divinely ordained his cousin and son-in-law Ali (the father of his grandsons Hasan ibn Ali and Hussein ibn Ali) in accordance with the command of God to be the next caliph, making Ali and his direct descendants Muhammad's successors. Ali was married to Fatimah, Muhammad's daughter from his wife Khadijah bint Khuwaylid. -wiki


So, hence the name  Arrow  Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

You should travel to Iraq, meet with Al Baghdadi, and tell him Muhammad is not a true prophet. Remind him of Ali and Fatimah. Do NOT tell him you are from the USA (remember Guantanamo). Tell him you are from Sweden. That should protect you.  Laughing

By (you) having us side with the Shi'ites, it is entirely possible that you (and the rest of us) will never enter paradise. No virgins, no nothing. We will remain here to crawl in the dirt, perhaps forever.

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johnsilver

Rep: 61.3
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

The "plan" was always for a unified Iraq, not a split up one as anyone SHOULD know who pays any attention to the middle east, then wouldn't expect that of you and the Desert Storm Saddam was left in power anyway...

The Kurds control the oil, or some of it. Since Obama firgures nobody else is going to fight for what is left of Iraq and the Kurds have wanted an independent state within Iraq for decades (bordering Turkey, where Turkey doesn't care for them anyway), the US seems amendable now to supporting them for the time being with military supplies.

For *those of you* who are ignorant of the situation, the Israeli's have been arming them, through clandestine means for some time now and even getting oil from them. They both have forged a somewhat underground alliance between them.

What/why you keep bringing up Reagan, a man with backbone and would act on his convictions, had one of the strongest economies in the 20th centuries is beyond me. Bush Sr also, another man who was not afraid to act on his convictions and with back bone, something SORELY lacking among our current dear leader and his chosen close group of lackeys he surrounds himself with.

He has 2 years in an attempt at correcting the last 6y of abysmal policy of ignoring the obvious, getting involved in places he had no business (Libya), supporting terrorists where they should have been over thrown (muslim brother hood in egypt), or getting in the way of Israel while they are in the midst of crushing hamas with demands for cease fires, that Hamas continually brok and Hamas was killing soldiers during each and every one. Obama /kerry is directly responsible for ALL of those deaths

Notice that both Kerry/obama not in egypt for the last ceasefire? Persona non grata...

Edit:

Decided to go back and see how long the Isralei's had been arming the Kurds exactly. Was thinking at least as long as Desert Storm, but turns out as far as the Six Day War (45y):

Pretty far, longer than the US by 30Y.

Quote:
For decades, Israel has been a silent stakeholder in northern Iraq, training and arming its restive Kurds. Massimiliano Fiore, a fellow at the Department of War Studies at King’s College London, cites a CIA document found in the US Embassy in Tehran and subsequently published, which reportedly attested that the Kurds aided Israel’s military in the June 1967 (Six Day) War by launching a major offensive against the Iraqi Army. This kept Iraq from joining the other Arab armies in Israel, in return for which, “after the war, massive quantities of Soviet equipment captured from the Egyptians and Syrians were transferred to the Kurds.”


And here is what they have been sending recently:

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Tons of equipment, including motorcycles, tractors, sniffer dogs, systems to upgrade Kalashnikov rifles, bulletproof vests, and first-aid items have been shipped to Iraq’s northern region, with most products stamped “Made in Israel.”The Kurds had insisted that the cooperation be kept secret, fearing that exposure of the projects would motivate terror groups to target their Jewish guests. Recent warnings that Al-Qaeda might be planning an attack on Kurdish training camps prompted a hasty exit of all Israeli trainers from the northern region. In response to the report, the Defense Ministry said: “We haven’t allowed Israelis to work in Iraq, and each activity, if performed, was a private initiative, without our authorization, and is under the responsibility of the employers and the employees involved.”


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Stwa

Rep: 308.9
votes: 16


PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:57 am Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

HEY DJ  Exclamation

I hate to break it to ya, but Obama is NOT the Antichrist, so you can take a break from worshiping him 24x7.  Arrow


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Dima

Rep: 87.3
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

Here is a picture of a meeting of good friends/allies Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr_al-Baghdadi) and John McCain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain )

no wonder ISIS got TOW-2 in numbers that they successfully use against both Syrian army and Iraqi army.
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DAK_Legion

Rep: 86.3
votes: 20


PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

Good pic dima;)


heia Safari!!
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Dima

Rep: 87.3
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

And I think our goverment is stupid, they should have supplied ISIS with AA/AT missiles on par with US earning money and avoiding sanctions (along with checking how will they work against US/NATO jets and helis) but what they do are supplying the modern weapons to Iraqi army to fight ISIS...
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/iraqs-first-mi-28-havoc-attack-chopper-has-taken-to-the-1634427850
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dj

Rep: 157.1
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:11 am Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

Stwa wrote (View Post):
HEY DJ  Exclamation

I hate to break it to ya, but Obama is NOT the Antichrist, so you can take a break from worshiping him 24x7.  Arrow



Do you not have anything else to do with your time other than annoy people with Youtube video spamming.  Nobody gives a shit.
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dj

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:16 am Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

Dima wrote (View Post):
Here is a picture of a meeting of good friends/allies Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr_al-Baghdadi) and John McCain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain )

no wonder ISIS got TOW-2 in numbers that they successfully use against both Syrian army and Iraqi army.


WOW...Dima where did you get that or find that?  It must be censored here in the US.  McCain even duped Kerry/Obama into the trap of aligning and arming these thugs.  Again it was thanks to Putin that we saved ourselves from our own stupidity.

I can't believe McCain actually met face to face with that thug.  And to think we were seriously debating at the highest levels giving them many millions of aid.  And weapons that ultimately be used against us and our allies?

What a clusterfuk.  Putin literally saved McCain or Obama from such a stupid ass idea.  Probably would have been the biggest blunder in post Cold-War history.
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HogansHeros

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:42 am Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

Personally, I think the man in the picture's nose looks very different from Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's
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Stwa

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

dj wrote (View Post):
Do you not have anything else to do with your time other than annoy people with Youtube video spamming.  Nobody gives a shit.

Gee DJ! Looks like I hit a nerve when I told you Obama is not the Antichrist. I will make it up to you with a video I know you will enjoy.  Arrow


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Dima

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:15 am Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

ISIL used 'chlorine gas' to kill 300 Iraqi soldiers
http://www.worldbulletin.net/news/144922/isil-used-chlorine-gas-to-kill-300-iraqi-soldiers
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mooxe

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:32 am Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

US hitting ISIS in Syria now.
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dj

Rep: 157.1
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:31 am Post subject: Re: US Airstrikes on ISIS Reply with quote

Sounds like it's about that time to drop some conventional nukes on these fukwads.  Using Gas on their fellow Muslims?  Not we are up to 40 allies that want revenge, including several Arab nations.  Maybe even Iran will volunteer, they are already sending small numbers of reinforcements into Baghdad.
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