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Stwa

Rep: 308.9
votes: 16


PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 10:30 am Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
I have a spare room. But you better hurry before the wall goes up. I spoke to a Trump supporter here at work. It was so difficult. I had to change the subject as he was literally just repeating what Trump says verbatim almost.


So from this I guess you are very familiar with what Trump says, "verbatim".

So, if Trump wins the presidency (fat chance) he has not said where he will deport these migrants to. I vote Canada. But then, they will cross that border too, requiring yet another wall.
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mooxe

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 6:00 am Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

Cruz's rant today against Trump was so true. Cruz is just not a good alternative, and Kasich is a wasted vote.
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sod98

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 7:21 am Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
Cruz's rant today against Trump was so true. Cruz is just not a good alternative, and Kasich is a wasted vote.


Cruz gone - withdrawn from the race.

How much more policy will Clinton change to get votes. From the start of the Democrats Primary to now, everything she originally stood for has just about changed. Is she lying to get votes ? Also will Trump bring out the book - Clintons War on Women that was recently published to discredit her and Bill Clinton.
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Stwa

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 9:18 am Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

So now that Trump wins Indiana, I suppose many more people will exclaim that if Trump wins the presidency, that they will move to Canada. It is funny, I have never hear one such person say that they will move to Mexico. Why is that?
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southern_land

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

Stwa wrote (View Post):
So now that Trump wins Indiana, I suppose many more people will exclaim that if Trump wins the presidency, that they will move to Canada. It is funny, I have never hear one such person say that they will move to Mexico. Why is that?


because as soon as you get there you have to more to Texas or California?
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mick_xe5

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

Now that Trump is the presumptive GOP candidate, some opinion shapers in his party are claiming they will actively support Clinton instead...which is the conservative equivalent of vowing to move to Mexico.
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sod98

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

mick_xe5 wrote (View Post):
Now that Trump is the presumptive GOP candidate, some opinion shapers in his party are claiming they will actively support Clinton instead...which is the conservative equivalent of vowing to move to Mexico.


Anything to keep the establishment candidates in power -  Cruz now Clinton. Just shows how far reaching the power of the lobbyist goes in influencing / shaping US politics.
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dj

Rep: 145.5
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2016 10:05 am Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

Strange that Trump is more of a liberal, to the left of Clinton on War (Iraq vote) and trade.  Clinton is not honest by waiting for many months when it was politically expedient to even give a yes or no answer about Keystone XL pipeline & the Trade deal with Asia.  Only when she thought Sanders might beat her did she conveniently come out and state her position.  

I agree that Clinton is an establishment candidate.  Hardly any difference with her positions and the Republican Establishment candidates on War, Trade, Lobbyists, etc.  The only trivial difference is that she supports gays, immigrants and gun control.  Sanders also defies his own party by refusing to vote for the Brady bill or other gun control bills many times in his career.  Sanders is almost like Libertarian but has more liberal views on Education and Healthcare.  I like that Sanders is extremely consistent, unlike Clinton and that weasel Lyin' Ted Cruz.  Good riddance to him.

I hope Sanders wins...that would be the ultimate anti-establishment ballot on both sides.
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sod98

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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2016 10:37 am Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

dj wrote (View Post):
Strange that Trump is more of a liberal, to the left of Clinton on War (Iraq vote) and trade.  Clinton is not honest by waiting for many months when it was politically expedient to even give a yes or no answer about Keystone XL pipeline & the Trade deal with Asia.  Only when she thought Sanders might beat her did she conveniently come out and state her position.  

I agree that Clinton is an establishment candidate.  Hardly any difference with her positions and the Republican Establishment candidates on War, Trade, Lobbyists, etc.  The only trivial difference is that she supports gays, immigrants and gun control.  Sanders also defies his own party by refusing to vote for the Brady bill or other gun control bills many times in his career.  Sanders is almost like Libertarian but has more liberal views on Education and Healthcare.  I like that Sanders is extremely consistent, unlike Clinton and that weasel Lyin' Ted Cruz.  Good riddance to him.

I hope Sanders wins...that would be the ultimate anti-establishment ballot on both sides.


Agreed. I also hope Sanders wins. He would be very good for the US and the world. Sadly I think the odds are against him now. Will Trump be better than Clinton ? Certainly he couldn't be that much worse, I hope.
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MajorFrank

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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2016 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

Stwa wrote (View Post):
So now that Trump wins Indiana, I suppose many more people will exclaim that if Trump wins the presidency, that they will move to Canada. It is funny, I have never hear one such person say that they will move to Mexico. Why is that?


My aunt moved to Mexico from Texas. One reason she moved was because George Dubya was elected.
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sod98

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 4:07 am Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

MajorFrank wrote (View Post):
Stwa wrote (View Post):
So now that Trump wins Indiana, I suppose many more people will exclaim that if Trump wins the presidency, that they will move to Canada. It is funny, I have never hear one such person say that they will move to Mexico. Why is that?


My aunt moved to Mexico from Texas. One reason she moved was because George Dubya was elected.


This being one and the same then...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdEeBoZTrVg
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sod98

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

How is Hillary Clinton still in the presidential race after Benghazi - lied about the security risk, her lack of knowledge about it and being the most responsible person for downgrading the security at the Benghazi Mission. This is on top of US Military not backing her version of events that cost several US people their lives. Also sending the Diplomat to Benghazi to conduct " arms to Jihadists " and his death.

Also remember the lies about the sniper at the Bosnian airport shooting at Hillary and her escort. She is a serial liar and a stranger from the truth at best.
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dj

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

Yes the Clintons play dirty politics for decades since before Bill got elected.  She has serious issues with her credibility.  Not that she deserves a defense but your statements maybe are pulled from a right wing blog.  Clinton had nothing at all to do with Benghazi her opponents just want to exploit the situation for partisan gains.  Trump would be even worse than Clinton.  But I do like how has similar views as Bernie Sanders on several issues.  

I am so disgusted with the Clintons after they yet again played dirty by planting a story in the AP the day before the big primary election in California.  She had someone plant a story  that Bernie Sanders already lost because "delegates" switched sides...the day before the election?  Complete rubbish.  Big Corporate $ media LOVES Clinton & stabbed Sanders in the back and would not even let California, the biggest state have a voice.  Sanders would be wise to wait it out.  Might get ugly with Clinton's email issues.
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sod98

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:00 am Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

[quote="dj";p="84425"]Yes the Clintons play dirty politics for decades since before Bill got elected.  She has serious issues with her credibility.  Not that she deserves a defense but your statements maybe are pulled from a right wing blog.  Clinton had nothing at all to do with Benghazi her opponents just want to exploit the situation for partisan gains.  

The info pertaining to Hillary's involvement in Benghazi comes from Reuters and US media. Details of which are slowly filtering through. As she was Secretary of State at the time, she was the senior most important person responsible for the security of Diplomatic Missions abroad. Hillary would have you believe that her staff made the decisions but never told her.........not likely. Her evidence contradicted several Military personal, one a very High ranking Officer explained how he told the SOS in writing about the security to which she continues to lie.

Lots of the guns currently in use today in Syria came from Libya adding to the evidence already about the Diplomats meetings with other rebels - allied to Al Qaeda. Also more witness testimonies.
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mooxe

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:48 am Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

sod98 wrote (View Post):
How is Hillary Clinton still in the presidential race after Benghazi - lied about the security risk, her lack of knowledge about it and being the most responsible person for downgrading the security at the Benghazi Mission. This is on top of US Military not backing her version of events that cost several US people their lives. Also sending the Diplomat to Benghazi to conduct " arms to Jihadists " and his death.

Also remember the lies about the sniper at the Bosnian airport shooting at Hillary and her escort. She is a serial liar and a stranger from the truth at best.


She did admit to a "misspeak" about the sniper incident. I can understand why she may have said that. For one, from my own experience landing in Afghanistan, we wore all our body armour on the plane and came in at a steep fast dive to land. We did this to give any snipers or gun toting enemies less time to take pot shots at us. Did we come in under fire? I'll never know, I never heard anything hit the plane and had no window seat to look outside. This landing tactic is pretty standard in areas where the security surrounding the airport are not completely known. Secondly, journalists and maybe government workers like to claim they were under fire or embellish their stories in hopes it adds to their credibility. Google Brian Williams and you will find the best example. Neither of these are intended as an excuse for her, I think I just understand why she said it.

As for Benghazi. I believe that she would not purposely lead four men to die. I really can't find what she lied about. Post a link.

Regarding her personal email server. Obviously wrong thing to do. This was probably accepted in State Department culture. Everyone would immediately know the emails from Hillary were coming from a personal email address. Their IT staff should of been more on top of this at the time, and Hillary most likely knew better or should have known better. I am sure things have changed by now so this doesn't happen again. Were missing many points to this story though. If she emailed anyone in any US government agency from her personal email, that email would be archived on other government computers. In these cases they are at least recoverable.
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mooxe

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:03 am Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

As for Trump. It's hard to really say anything good about him. Most arguments leveled against Trump are answered with "what about Hillary" because there is no defence for Trump. Is he going to build a wall? No. Will there be have a temporary ban on Muslims? No. What of his talking points can people actually see coming to reality? I can't think of any.

I find it hard to believe how so many republicans did an about face to supporting Trump. Chris Christie.... omg.. I was really hoping Paul Ryan would hold his ground, he seems like a great politician, a man you can trust and to roll over like that was disappointing. For the remaining republican Trump hold outs, my respect goes to them, and they will earn much more respect from the american people when this is all over.
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Stwa

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:53 am Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
For the remaining republican Trump hold outs, my respect goes to them, and they will earn much more respect from the american people when this is all over.


Forget Trump, the US messed up in the 1960s and 1970s. Many writings in that time predicted what is happening now. The only question not answered is how long will the US remain a nation? Same goes for Canada. And by Canada I mean Toronto and Vancouver.  Laughing
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sod98

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

As for Benghazi. I believe that she would not purposely lead four men to die. I really can't find what she lied about. Post a link.

Agreed not purposely just through incompetence and arrogance. Why all the lies. Also remember the SOS is responsible for overseeing these diplomatic missions. The buck stop with her and not her Ronald Reagan memory or scapegoats - underlings.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-idUSKCN0RP29820150926
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/01/26/600-requests-from-benghazi-for-better-security-what-this-statistic-really-means/
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KSJWcRS0_0

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3093520/As-Benghazi-aftermath-smoldered-Hillary-Clinton-couldn-t-remember-dead-ambassador-Libya.html
 
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/22/clinton-benghazi-hearing-gowdy-dead-deserve-truth/
 
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/1/hillary-clinton-libya-war-push-armed-benghazi-rebe/
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/06/world/africa/weapons-sent-to-libyan-rebels-with-us-approval-fell-into-islamist-hands.html?_r=0
 



There really is much more about Clinton in most western media's. These are just some I have found over a very short period. Sadly Trump makes her look good with his temporary insanity. Hillary has changed her policy during the race to resemble Sanders - says anything for power. Also I have found the sniper video -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BfNqhV5hg4

The only sane one, Sanders but really he hasn't a chance.
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dj

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:10 pm Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

Because Hillary did NOT lie about Benghazi.  Lots of right wing agitators floating lies on the net, inventing their own facts.  She already was interrogated by the opposition for more than 8 hours and the head guy could not find anything.  I don't like Hillary myself - but it's not a fair criticism what you & her opponents say about Benghazi.  We took advantage of the situation...but had the usual blowback.  Better off not intervening at all in the mid-east as these are the consequences.
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dj

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: US Elections 2016 Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
As for Trump. It's hard to really say anything good about him.


Not a fan or supporter of Trump.  But he is not ALL bad and forces the incompetent and hopelessly corrupt Republicans to change their ways.  So here is how he and Bernie are aligned with same viewpoints:

1)  Opposed Iraq War from the very beginning (unlike Clinton)
2)  Opposed to "Citizens United" Supreme Court verdict which lets Multi-Nationals or individuals remain completely anonymous with influence peddling
3)  Opposed to multi-national trade deals which encourage corporations to exploit cheap Commie-subsidized or 3rd World sweatshop labor
4)  Opposed to subsidizing wealthy nations' military defence expenses - for decades Japan and NATO allies have enjoyed paying a mere fraction of their defence. US politicians are stupid enough to spend ourselves into bankruptcy while Germany and Japan invest far more into education/infrastructure/social programs.  Although Trump talks out of both sides of his mouth on this , never giving a clear answer if he would cut spending.  He just says our allies need to pay more.
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