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Bungarra

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:36 am Post subject: Jutland 1916 HMS Warrior Found Reply with quote

HMS Warrior has been discovered near Norway by marine archaeologist Innes McCartney of Bournemouth University and an exploration firm sponsored by the Sea War Museum Jutland. The Warrior is the last of the 25 British and German ships sunk during the Battle of Jutland, fought in the North Sea on May 31 and June 1, 1916, to be found. “It’s completely upside down, and it sank down into an area of very soft seabed, right to the level of the upper deck—so everything inside it is completely sealed in,” McCartney said. The British armored cruiser was heavily damaged during the battle by German gunfire. A British aircraft carrier attempted to tow the Warrior, but the vessel was eventually abandoned after the crew was moved to safety. McCartney explained that shipwrecks from the Battle of Jutland, many of which are war graves, have been looted for their valuable bronze fittings. The Warrior has been protected by its partial burial and because its location, away from the site of the battle, was unknown. “It’s the only wreck left from the Battle of Jutland that we can categorically say is completely unspoiled,” McCartney added.

http://www.livescience.com/56160-last-shipwreck-wwi-battle-of-jutland-found.html


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mooxe

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:58 am Post subject: Re: Jutland 1916 HMS Warrior Found Reply with quote

Interesting how crews are salvaging these wrecks. I imagine there must be a massive cost of overhead to have a large ship out there salvaging. The wrecks must be worth hundreds of thousands, maybe millions. To get the brass condensers out, I suppose they have to cut the ship open? This must be very difficult work at depth to a damaged ship.
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pvt_Grunt

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:10 am Post subject: Re: Jutland 1916 HMS Warrior Found Reply with quote

I can't see the economics of it adding up. Maybe if it was in shallow water or run aground. But in the stormy North Sea?
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diggin.robat

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Jutland 1916 HMS Warrior Found Reply with quote

I heard that mostly the ship´s propellers were salvaged. These were huge pieces of bronze and might be easier to get when a wreck was located.


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pvt_Grunt

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:43 am Post subject: Re: Jutland 1916 HMS Warrior Found Reply with quote

A propeller would also make a very cool ornament for my front lawn!
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dj

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: Jutland 1916 HMS Warrior Found Reply with quote

We don't any info on these incidents here in the U.S.  Had no idea about illegal salvaging of bronze fittings and these are worth 10's of thousands of $.
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