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mick_xe5

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Dozens of Russians Are Believed Killed in U.S.-Backed Sy Reply with quote

Jeez, even the CIA Director believes this fake news.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: Dozens of Russians Are Believed Killed in U.S.-Backed Sy Reply with quote

Well, the best answers can be obtained on cemeteries. War in Ukraine costs around 1000 of Russian 'volunteers', and can (and was by Russian opposition) be easily traced on cemeteries, especially in some traditional 'well of soldiers' regions, like Pskov and Yaroslavl. But for now nobody found new 'lines of burial' on cemeteries, evidence of one-time large losses.
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mick_xe5

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Dozens of Russians Are Believed Killed in U.S.-Backed Sy Reply with quote

Couple of hundred KIA scattered among several RU federations isnt going to be traceable to mass interment at a single cemetery or two. Particularly if those casualties were obliterated by kilotons of US airstrikes at night  on the defacto eastern border between Syrian and anti-Assad forces, neither side being noted for humanitarian truces to gather wounded and dead.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:28 am Post subject: Re: Dozens of Russians Are Believed Killed in U.S.-Backed Sy Reply with quote

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Couple of hundred KIA scattered among several RU federations isnt going to be traceable to mass interment at a single cemetery or two.

Its easier that you think - https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgubernia.pskovregion.org%2Fnumber_705%2F00.php&edit-text=  . That was outcome of one battle near Lutugino, Ukraine, with losses like 47. So 'hundreds killed' will be traced even quicker - but still nothing.

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either side being noted for humanitarian truces to gather wounded and dead

In such cases an empty coffins buried. BTW, PMCs insurance includes help with burial, most recruits comes from poor parts of population (so it is impossible for their relatives to do everything themselves) - in result we should see a groups of identical graves.
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mick_xe5

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:09 am Post subject: Re: Dozens of Russians Are Believed Killed in U.S.-Backed Sy Reply with quote

In addition to the story being recently confirmed under oath by the CIA director, it had previously been substantiated in an interview with the US JSOC commander at the site of the battle. Little need at this point to go counting empty graves.

The ulterior question is why this topic was spun the way it was, quite fitting a biased pattern, on preliminary information in the first place?
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Dozens of Russians Are Believed Killed in U.S.-Backed Sy Reply with quote

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story being recently confirmed under oath by the CIA director

Should we remind John Brennan issues? About drones, Russia-Trump dossier... Diving in near past, there was issues with Michael Hayden too ... BTW, highly unlikely Pompeo will got any penalties even in case of direct lie - and he can always say that he was misguided by local agents report, just as his predecessors did.

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interview with the US JSOC commander at the site of the battle

Did`n see...link please?
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mick_xe5

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: Dozens of Russians Are Believed Killed in U.S.-Backed Sy Reply with quote

Link to interview w/ Gen Braga.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Dozens of Russians Are Believed Killed in U.S.-Backed Sy Reply with quote

Thank you.

Braga is a clever man - with full my respect. He didn`t tell any exact numbers and used word 'estimates' . He know the worth of his words, unlike CIA folks.
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mick_xe5

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Dozens of Russians Are Believed Killed in U.S.-Backed Sy Reply with quote

Looks like the Russian journalist who recently reported on the Wagner Group, even attending some of their funerals, tripped and fell to his death from his 5th floor balcony in Yekaterinburg.

Doubtless he was pondering the worth of his words on the way down.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Dozens of Russians Are Believed Killed in U.S.-Backed Sy Reply with quote

This case is very familiar with that one: https://cpj.org/data/people/ivan-safronov/

For now, some Ukrainian media and main colleague of well-known opposition politician Navlany denies any versions of murder of Borodin.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Dozens of Russians Are Believed Killed in U.S.-Backed Sy Reply with quote

Like I'm saying, military cemeteries in Russia are well-monitored, by good peoples of West. So it was very hard to hide 'hundreds' of buries if such losses ever had place.
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