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mooxe

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:21 am Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

Sod, I believe that you will continue to contribute to this site negatively if I don't step in. Focus on the sites theme for any further contribution.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

Another 'farther' of 'Novichok' comes to light:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fthebell.io%2Frazrabotchik-novichka-vladimir-uglev-partii-sostavlyali-ot-20-grammov-do-neskolkih-kilogrammov%2F&edit-text=
 
His interview contained controversity, some even marked by editors. I can only wonder, why all that people keeped silence for years, and now talks with journalists so freely? If Novichok exists, and Russian government used it against traitors, don`t they should be scared to be next victims?

Then, some of fled Russian businessmen and politics in Britain got warnings for risks to their lives from, seems like British secret services:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.svoboda.org%2Fa%2F29115294.html
https://translate.yandex.ru/translate?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kompravda.eu%2Fdaily%2F26809.4%2F3844667%2F&lang=ru-en  

Both sites are well-known propaganda thrash dumps, so better wait for details.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

WOW:

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2018/march/06/180306-toxic-storm-for-royal-marines-in-major-chemical-exercise
 
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/defence-science-and-technology-laboratory
 
Quote:
Headquarters
Porton Down
Salisbury
Wiltshire


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dj

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:32 am Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

Makes no sense..  So you think the Russian nationals whom fled to England faked threats or were planted by U.K. to make Putin regime look bad, or what would be the motive for these Russians in England to fake threats?  As far as timing, it coincides with the assignation attempt and the other Russians reporting to authorities. There is a long history of this behavior by Putin regime.  You cross him especially if Russian, he'll may you pay.  Sergei Magnitsky died in a Moscow prison in 2009.  I wonder how that happened...maybe an "accident"?   I heard that infuriated Putin when U.S. passed that law in honor of the lawyer who died in jail on bogus charges.  Browder's father fyi was head of American Communist Party, hardly an enemy of Russia.
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dj

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:14 am Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

And just fyi - U.S. Secretary of State Tillerson was fired only a few days after he wrote letter of condemnation against Russia for the attack in U.K.  Also the National Security Advisor was fired just a few days after he complained about Russian actions in Syria.  Coincidence?
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pvt_Grunt

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
Sod, I believe that you will continue to contribute to this site negatively if I don't step in. Focus on the sites theme for any further contribution.


From the peanut gallery.........

Mooxe you have always allowed a long leash here with politics etc, I hope that doesnt change. I do enjoy the "debate"

Having said that I also say there is no need for the personal attacks you have taken, it's your site and you dont need to justify what you do.

Sod98, pull your head in, we're a CC game site and most people don't really give a fuck about your dodgy websites and your "I know more than you" bullshit.

You're just another one in a long line of cut 'n paste cowboys we've seen around here.

If you're here to convince a bunch of grown adults that everything they think is wrong, you're wasting your time, sorry.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

dj wrote (View Post):
what would be the motive for these Russians in England to fake threats?  

Well, the most common conspiracy theory in Russia (supported by provided Svoboda&Kompravda articles) is that Theresa May government trying to conceal negative Brexit effects with accentuate on foreign threat (who said 'Putinism-style'?), at same time advancing in expel of 'dirty' Russian money from Britain to show support with US neo-cons. So they poison Skripal (at time of largest chemical military training, that explains why unprotected police&firemans watch so phlegmatic on Porton Down executives in chem protection suits on crime scene - that's because they already seen same scenes for three weeks of military drills at Salisbury and perceived it just as another training exersize), and then make threats to some other Russians 'you will be next' to make them pack their bags and flee far from Britain
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

dj wrote (View Post):
Sergei Magnitsky died in a Moscow prison in 2009.  I wonder how that happened...maybe an "accident"?   I heard that infuriated Putin when U.S. passed that law in honor of the lawyer who died in jail on bogus charges.  Browder's father fyi was head of American Communist Party, hardly an enemy of Russia.


That was another troublesome case. It was confirmed three things already:

- Bill Browder had close ties with Britain MI6, again confirmed during his 2017 testimony before the US Senate. He denounced other former MI6 agent Christopher Steele , based on own experience in collaboration with British secret services.
- Sergei Magnitsky never was a lawyer, he had only degree in economics, and worked only as finance auditor. No account of his legal activites was registered until his detention.
- As Magnitski`s colleagues testified in court, he was on a middle-position in Browder firm, and meets with Browder only two or three times, each time only accompanied some of higher executives. So any post-mortem Browder claims of Sergey as his close friend are lies.

Magnitsky was a serf soldier in battlefield, unlikely Putin even knew about his very existence before his tragic death in prison.
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dj

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:59 am Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

Propaganda planted by Putin to spin the story...why would Browder want to collaborate with MI6 to kills Sergei?  Here is the uncensored info:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/22/world/europe/russia-sergei-magnitsky-william-browder.html
 
"...The theory was first floated in a documentary broadcast on Russian state television last year, but widely brushed off as crude propaganda. It seemed aimed, as with many Russian disinformation campaigns, at muddying the waters around the issue without necessarily claiming to be credible.

It seems the prosecutors have been assembling the case since last year, but their activities came to light just this month when a lawyer representing Mr. Magnitsky’s family gained access to the court docket containing the information presented as evidence by the (Russian Government) prosecutors. ...Prosecutors contend that Mr. Browder had colluded with an agent of Britain’s foreign intelligence agency, MI6, “to cause the death of S. L. Magnitsky,” by persuading Russian prison doctors to withhold care."
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

Agreed, looks weird. Although, after http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2870194/How-government-infiltrated-Cuban-HIP-HOP-botched-attempt-overthrow-communist-government.html  , about what exactly we can say 'unbelievable'?
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dj

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

Please keep in mind Putin is EXPERT manipulator fluent in German, spent years in Intelligence business worked stationed in East Germany.  He is an absolute master of dis-information & propaganda. Here is another Ex-KGB agent speaks perfect English whom verified these threats were real.  His name is Boris Karpichkov.  He too was Serf soldier loyal to USSR.  Now speaks out about the hit list.  The assassination list included Karpichkov, Browder, Steele (former MI6), Vladimir Rezun and others.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-ex-spy-told-he-was-on-kremlin-hit-list/ar-AAvgQur?li=BBnbcA1&srcref=rss&ocid=iehrs
 
And here is the video taped interview with Karpichkov: http://www.msnbc.com/onassignment
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:40 am Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

We all know Putin`s biography, although there are two common mistakes, to one (sometimes - to both, in same page!) of which often falls media & politics:

1. Putin is Superman Lex Luthor, titan & genius, who watch everything, control everyone, make plans for years, and so on...
2. Putin is Arch-Villan, evil angry mobster, driven by misanthropic emotional impulses, who kill just for fun and then hellish laugh about.

Same tropes also often used against Assad... In reality, peoples are NOT like any of that. There is a great book about Saddam Hussein, 'Interrogating Dictator', please read it and do some homework, comparing public statements about him in western media with book content. I can also recommend series of publications 'Japanese Monographs ?? 144, 146, 147, 150, 152. Political Strategy Prior to Outbreak of War', always use it in case of someones groundless declarations about 'Japan wanted war with US in 1941'.

Considering 'Death Lists'... Rezun wanted for, like, 40 years to nowdays, his death sentence is still active in Russia, but he alive, futhermore, his books made a 10-million sales in Russia. Nothing happens with Browder himself for ten years. It looks like Karpichkov, another 'depleted spy' (as was Skripal), tries to get some attention and money from other`s tragedy and media hype.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/29/yulia-skripal-no-longer-in-critical-condition-says-salisbury-nhs
 
This definitely will hurt Russia weapon sales...who need 'deadly' weapons that can`t kill anyone?

https://news.sky.com/story/nerve-agent-attack-johnson-faces-questions-over-porton-down-claim-11315840
 
Exacly as 'novichok' ?reator wrote in past, substance was planned as untraceable, suitable for production from components of commercial fertilizer plants yield.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/06/europe/sergei-skripal-cat-guinea-pigs-dead-intl/index.html
 
But Britain have no interest in destroying evidences, right? 30 states over the world belive to Britain, there is no place to lie? Or...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:16 am Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

All i can say: once again

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/dozens-dead-in-possible-gas-attack-in-syria-regime-denies-allegation/ar-AAvBu8K?ocid=spartandhp
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

French 'Casus belli':
https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/IMG/pdf/180414_-_syria_-fr_national_assessment-_english-version_cle0c76b5.pdf  (main link)
http://go.ynet.co.il/pic/news/s_14_4.pdf - mirror (cause original blocked for access from some countries, including Russia - taste of freedom, you know)
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:32 am Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

OPCW did the inspection of just striked Barzah research center year ago: https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/EC/85/en/ec85dg16_e_.pdf

Code:

8. Not all areas were inspected during these first inspections. However, in each of the
selected areas, all rooms within the building, structure, or area were inspected in
accordance with paragraph 11 of EC-83/DEC.5. The inspected State Party provided
the necessary cooperation during the inspections and provided access for the
inspectors to all selected areas.
9. Four samples were taken by the inspection team, at locations selected by the
inspectors (two from each SSRC facility). The samples were removed from site and
subsequently analysed at two OPCW-designated laboratories. Results of the analysis
indicated that there were no scheduled chemicals present in the samples.
10. During these first inspections at the Barzah and Jamrayah SSRC facilities, the
inspection team did not observe any activities inconsistent with obligations under the
Convention. The inspection reports were finalised and transmitted to the Syrian Arab
Republic on 2 June 2017.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/18/612259535/former-spy-sergei-skripal-released-from-hospital-recovering-from-exotic-nerve-ag
 
Deadly, lethal Novichok...
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

https://sana.sy/en/?p=145238
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2018/08/22/Bolton-US-will-act-strongly-if-Syria-uses-chemical-weapons-again/5021534940892/
 
...and nothing has changed
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Syria chem attacks Reply with quote

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/09/douma-chemical-attack-evidence-syria/
https://twitter.com/Dalatrm

Nobody will ask about 200 tomahawks wasted...
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