[JFFulcrum]

BTW, folks from US, what you think about latest Chinese report about human rights in USA? Of course, it is biased, but how much depart from reality, according to your feelings?

[HasaniSabbah]

[HasaniSabbah]

On a slightly different note. Another regime change in Libya - Haftar. CIA backed. Come on Trump, what happened to draining the swamp.

[Antony_nz]

I was never really interested in the whole collusion thing.

Granted i can see why it's important, its a pretty massive violation of national sovereignty but it's hard to be interested in it for a few reasons.
1. What actually constitutes as collusion is very ambiguous and you would require something pretty convincing to secure an impeachment.
2. The President of the US and most politicians in America are already completely corrupt and working in favour of certain interests groups that are not indicative or for the benefit of the public. Why should I care about Russian interests when American officials are so representative of alien interests already?
3. America is the number one interferer of other countries elections and number two is not even close. How can such a complaint be taken seriously when such banditry is accepted?

So let's take two examples of a foreign entity interfering with other countries politics in the US. 1. The fossil fuel industries lobbying and 2. Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel lobbying or visiting Congress. (These two examples were just random from top of my head) Why should I care about Russians interests in the US more than Fossil fuel industries in the US?
Is Russias interest with the US more of a gross violation of principle than private interest groups? I'm not so sure.

[ringoblood]

Congress is now sending 8 criminal referrals to DOJ for prosecution; in the report they include Leaks for the Muller investigation from CNN, Prosecutors from Muller Councilor, and several CIA and DOJ Personal, LOL this is gonna be good.

[ringoblood]

[HasaniSabbah]

[ringoblood]

[HasaniSabbah]

The only collusion they would find would have been between Israel and the USA. Israel does have an unhealthy influence over the USA - Iran revolutionary guard - listed as terrorists.

[johnsilver]

[HasaniSabbah]

That is pretty funny actually. Venezuela would have fallen under a weight of it's own debt, lack of ability to feed it's own people, or ability to provide any type of medical services had not China and Russia given them masses of money recently to gain a foot hold in this hemisphere.

NOTHING in that country has worked near capacity for years, including it's once prosperous oil wells.
The US recognizing Guaido was nothing more than an attempt to hurry up the death spiral of yet another failed socialist state and hurry up getting it into some kind of (hopefully) democratic form of government under Guaido.[/quote]

Venezuelan debt is only 23% of GDP. Compare that to the USA - 115, GB 300% plus. Max Blumanthal, a US Jorno recently exposed the lie over the starving population shown on ABC in Oz. His crew went around Caracas interviewed and did fact finding. Those who proclaim to be starving were the well heeled people. Inflation made the price of food exorbitant but not in short supply. List items media said no longer existed in Venezuela and showed how avail they were - even toothpaste. The Govt had opened up food banks for those who couldn't afford food. Something  Guaido has already promised to stop. Along with state owned Oil company - the very thing that helped turn Venezuela from 80% poverty to approximately 40% - is to be privatized. Lack of medicines is solely due to the crippling sanctions. Sanctions have been described by some in the UN as an act of war which I think is very close to the truth. Changing Government in Venezuela this way only leads to another Libya. Guaido's support is less than 8% and the guy didn't even stand in the last elections that were overseen by Independent election authorities. The only country to cry foul was the US on behalf of their oil companies - nationalized.

Be careful of well meaning media reports. We have all seen what appears to be true at a later date exposed as complete lies.

[JFFulcrum]

It`s easy to organize troubles in economy, food supplies, utility services, when you have supporters on top. We seen exactly the same in late Soviet Union times, when train cars with food was artificially delayed on stations, refrigerators in warehouses switched off from electricity and central bank blocks money transfers with no reason, especially coming outside for grain supplies (and Canada hold the ships with grain in its ports for 'sanitary violations', same like US blocked any payments for medical supplies from Venezuela since 2016). There was a lot of strange industrial disasters as well. Of course, all was described as communist government impotency by 'suprisingly free' state media. That was a road for Yeltsin`s come to power. Truth became known only years after. Nowdays, the cyberwarfare adds to the 'tools of freedom', like attacks on Simón Bolivar Hydroplant.

This does not negate the fact that both Chavez and Maduro did not deal good with the economy for years, but 'push the leaning' is always best.

[JFFulcrum]

It`s easy to organize troubles in economy, food supplies, utility services, when you have supporters on top. We seen exactly the same in late Soviet Union times, when train cars with food was artificially delayed on stations, refrigerators in warehouses switched off from electricity and central bank blocks money transfers with no reason, especially coming outside for grain supplies (and Canada hold the ships with grain in its ports for 'sanitary violations', same like US blocked any payments for medical supplies from Venezuela since 2016). There was a lot of strange industrial disasters as well. Of course, all was described as communist government impotency by 'suprisingly free' state media. That was a road for Yeltsin`s come to power. Truth became known only years after. Nowdays, the cyberwarfare added to the 'tools of freedom', like attacks on Simón Bolivar Hydroplant.


This does not negate the fact that both Chavez and Maduro did not deal good with the economy for years, but 'push the leaning' is always best.

[HasaniSabbah]

For balance I should also mention corruption withing the Venezuelan Govt. Chavez recognized this and Maduro recently with sackings and arrests - https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/venezuela-court-issues-jail-sentence-for-judge-accused-of-corruption-by-chavez/ar-BBV5eLV?li=AA54ya&%2525253Bocid=spartanntp

[HasaniSabbah]

Here's a new one - Assange's possible extradition to the USA for spying - possibly to face the death penalty. Removed from Ecuadors Embassy in London and arrested for breaking bail. It's GB now but will they send him to the US. A sad day for truthful journalism. Funny enough Wikileaks were publishing corruption papers on the new Venezuelan President, family and friends in Venezuela.

[FMJ]

[dj]

He doesn't understand because the "conservative" political factions in USA have been hijacked by partisans and official state media propaganda.  Sean Hannity on Fox News waving his pen around in his hand doing thy dictators bidding to brainwash supporters & cheerlead at political rallies.  Not everyone in USA thinks this way or advocates we are superior to everyone else.  And Russia or China are not innocent, they torture and kill many of their own people.

But yes recent surveys have shown less than 30% of Americans can afford to purchase homes.  In places like California, less than 10% can afford to buy homes.  So yes there are large pockets of USA that resemble third world nations.  With huge homeless populations living in tent cities attracting rats, fleas.  City Hall of Los Angeles had recent cases of diseases spread by fleas on rats spread from homeless population.  Which are mostly mentally ill people whom can not get medical attention.

Socialism is not the same thing as social services provided by Governments.  Medical care or other services are not a binary choice like zero's and ones.  Every industrialized nation on planet offers some form of subsidized medical care.  Vast majority of those also have free market economies and did not turn into Socialist nations.  These are lies fed by the Right-wing propaganda machine and their armies of big $ lobbyists.

[ringoblood]

I'm just gonna state for the record for everyone here but some of you me know by now by looking at my profile. I am a Christian, BUT I DON NOT support TRUMP or Fox news, I am not a Conservative, I am a Biblicalist, I believe the Bible, not Political views. Sure i support some Conservative views, but I also support some Liberal/Democratic Views, and other as long as they line up to what the Bible says. What Trump, Obama, and Bush, Clinton, and other Recent US Presidents have done and the US have had I DO NOT SUPPORT. I love my Country, I come from a Military Family, My Dad and His Brothers were in the Navy, but our Government as it stands today, I DO NOT STAND BY.

I see you all as brother and sisters in a Military/History/Gaming Family and I respect all of your views. I may not agree, But I hold hands with you and say thank you for upholding freedom of speech and the History that made this World what it is today. If your a Vet thank you if your a programorer thank you, and I hope to debate and have a good time with you all here for a long time.

GOD Bless,

Josh

[HasaniSabbah]

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