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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

https://www.univision.com/univision-news/latin-america/legal-battle-over-venezuelas-looted-billions-heats-up
https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/news/uk/uk-government-recognises-juan-guaido-as-president-of-venezuela-high-court-rules/
 
Everyone better ask their politicians, where own country`s money actually stored. Sad that even Russia didn`t perform well with it.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Act 1: https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/11/seattle-mayor-jenny-durkan-chaz-block-party/
Act 2: https://www.theblaze.com/news/seattle-durkan-protest-home-chop
Act 3: https://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2020/07/01/mayor-durkan-issues-emergency-order-regarding-capitol-hill-protest-zone/
Act 4: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-police-clearing-chop-protest-zone/
 
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dj

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Well said = only if you live in the Conservative echo chamber bubble.  I noticed only Fox News missing from unapproved list of media outlets out to "destroy this nation".  Trump (and Nixon too) called the media the "enemy of the people".  Reagan and Nixon would have been called Liberal Democrats / Socialists / Communists / Marxists in today's Purity test fanatic Republican Party.  

Trump is not a political animal?  WHAT?  makes no sense he's all Partisan politics all the time even on 4th of July weekend breaking out the George Wallace greatest hits.  What President has ever sought to stir up divisions and culture wars on Independence Day?  And I love how the Conservative bubble always tries to blame everything on the Clintons, STILL he's been out of office for 20 years.

Not everything should be about Partisan binary purity tests.  What about just trying to do the right thing?  Even Mississipl just voted to remove the Confederate symbol from their State flag...150 years since the end of the Civil War.  And what Republicans.

Trump and supporters are like a Cult complete with the Flags.  What Republicans stabbed Trump in the back?  You meant Mitt Romney the sole Senator whom voted to impeach him?  Or did you mean the ones no longer in office I assume John Bolton, Charlie Sykes, Steve Schmidt, George Will...or how about the former Tea Party attack dog Joe Walsh whom later changed his mind about Trump and aggressively opposes.


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/10/does-charlie-sykes-understand-how-the-right-lost-its-mind.html
 

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For all the vitriol directed at Pres Trump, at least he isn't a "political animal," and that is a big reason why he has so many in his Republican Party who are willing to do almost anything to sabotage him. And since, like _Creeper_ said, CNN is out to destroy this nation, along with ABC, CBS, NBC, ad nauseum. I heard someone say that even Trump has been totally taken aback by everything being thrown at him. And even though many at this site don't like the guy, I would challenge any of you to survive half of what has been thrown at him. And until he decided to run as President he was even friends with many of the Liberals now out to destroy him. He has pictures of him with Bill and Hillary Clinton for example.

I have heard many of my conservatives who have made mention of things in the book "1984" that they can't believe are coming true. Unfortunately, I read "Animal Farm" instead, but I get a good picture of what it will be like if the socialists take control of the country—and it SCARES THE LIVING HELL OUT OF ME! I never in my wildest imagination thought that the Marxist/communist groups would have attained the level of support and admiration that they have.


Well said.

I think most people just never had the interest in world history required to recognize the patterns in what's going on here.
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dj

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Note on the article the defenders of Apartheid and OLD race baiting tactics going back many decades.  Or whataboutism now trying to use ONE small part of ONE city as fear mongering to fuel narrative that Blacks are taking over cites and of course Trump just retweets or uses in official Presidential speeches like a George Wallace pep rally chants of Kung Flu Kung Flu Kung Flu.
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mooxe

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:19 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

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I heard someone say that even Trump has been totally taken aback by everything being thrown at him.


Imagine having your own words and actions thrown back at you.
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Schmal_Turm

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Dj, when I said that Trump isn’t a political animal, what I was referring to is that he was elected as someone who never had held a political office. Therefore, he is unlike nearly all of the other candidates for President who are “POLITICAL WHORES!” who are willing to do almost anything to get ahead in politics.

Since I am not well acquainted with this Charlie Sykes that you brought up and referred to in your response that spoke glowingly about him (since he is attacking Trump—that is to be expected), but there were some interesting things about his book I got from the article. First is that when you choose an article from a liberal publication you are going to get what you are looking for: namely, dirt on Trump! Second: “Sykes’s model is William F. Buckley.” Now I have never been a big fan of Buckley, and he was willing to destroy a number of staunch conservatives, thus showing that he was a “moderate” at best. Without going into everything the writer said that was hopelessly biased, maybe the reason that Sykes was upset enough to write the book was because he was “A conservative talk-radio host who found himself alienated from his audience and many of his comrades by the rise of Trump.” Hell! He lost his damn job because of Trump! That would make anyone angry.

It used to be that when someone was saying something for or against someone or something then you would look to see who or what he is working for, or who his allies are. Alas, those days are no more when it comes to the mainstream liberal media. So I did my own investigation and what I found is that Mr. Sykes in “2016 was featured for his critiques of Donald Trump and conservative media in articles on the front page of The New York Times, The New York Times Magazine, and NPR. A longtime host of the #1 conservative talk-radio show in Wisconsin, he resigned that position and is now a regular contributor to MSNBC.” So he has found a new audience of those who agree with his bashing of Pres. Trump. Doesn’t that say something about why he is writing his diatribes?

What was especially interesting is the Amazon review given by someone who actually read his book:

He takes on Limbaugh in Chapter 11 by going back to Susan Fluke (of all people) & saying that JCPenny & Sears pulled their ad revenue along with a 'dozen other sponsors' like Netflix. First off, Sears is now bankrupt, JCPenny's stock is almost down to a dollar on the NYSE, and Limbaugh is not only still relevant but Syke's is off the air, his new gig with the other never Trumpers at Bill Kristol's the Weekly Standard is also reportedly up for sale because the GOP can no longer be the party that is for free trade as envisioned (looking back now to the 1990s) when NAFTA opened up Mexico and Canada which wiped out our entire steel producing ability (meaning we can't fight a war because over 300 deficiencies have been found in the supply chain during a recent audit ordered by POTUS Trump) taking jobs from Ohio to Pennsylvannia to Indiana, took away our textile manufacturing capability throughout the Carolinas, Georgia, and Alabama so every t-shirt now does not say made in the usa, and gutted our auto industry both finished car and parts in Michigan, New York, Illinois, Wisconsin, Missouri, Iowa, etc. Charles Sykes wants a gentleman as leader of the country. One who will uphold free trade at the cost of fair trade because to get into a fight with China or Mexico might be too harsh both in policy and "tone."

I find it really difficult to argue with what was just written—but I am sure you will.


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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

https://pjmedia.com/culture/tyler-o-neil/2020/07/06/statue-honoring-frederick-douglass-in-his-home-city-toppled-on-anniversary-of-his-famous-speech-n608041
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__Creeper__

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

dj wrote (View Post):
"Well said = only if you live in the Conservative echo chamber bubble". " stir up divisions"


"Dark and Divisive" ....am I right?  

parroted across no fewer than 10 of your giant propaganda network of media outlets stating this exact line in the exact same way in response to the Trump/Mount Rushmore speech. Do I know this because I'm in a bubble ?  

Who is in a bubble here? I don't even watch Fox news, If anything I'm trapped in YOUR bubble. CNN is on TV everywhere I go, and some of my oldest friends whom I sit and play Poker with on a weekly basis sound just like you, CNN plays in the background and they parrot what Trump did today with disgust and show me clips from CNN on their phones, I grin and bear it. I don't even know conservative people. Everyone I know even my own mother watches and believes in this CNN complete bullshit. You're projecting.

If there is something that I should see which I am missing. Kindly inform this ignorant insulated soul.

(Random tidbit, CNN pays airports to run their garbage exclusively )
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__Creeper__

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
Schmal_Turm wrote (View Post):
I heard someone say that even Trump has been totally taken aback by everything being thrown at him.


Imagine having your own words and actions thrown back at you.


Oh he's such a bully !  -- quoting my mother.

How is he a bully ?  Oh I don't know, he just is !!

=========

Anyway MOOXE, care to add any effort to this comment ?  Link a clip? add some context ? Maybe you'll gain another anti Trump crusader.
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mooxe

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:18 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

I'll add just a tiny bit of effort as I don't care to convert anyone to be an anti Trump crusader. I really just kind of read the news as a hobby. Commenting here lately has been the most I've ever spoken on it US politic in years. But since you asked for some context... Here are two easy low hanging fruit examples of when Trump gets things thrown back at him. As a third example we could also witness how the USA is handling the Covid-19 pandemic. He deserves all the flak there to.


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__Creeper__

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
I'll add just a tiny bit of effort as I don't care to convert anyone to be an anti Trump crusader. I really just kind of read the news as a hobby. Commenting here lately has been the most I've ever spoken on it US politic in years. But since you asked for some context... Here are two easy low hanging fruit examples of when Trump gets things thrown back at him. As a third example we could also witness how the USA is handling the Covid-19 pandemic. He deserves all the flak there to.


And that's it? for all your Trump Derangement Syndrome you've quoted two basic truths.

Bubba Wallace is as bad as Jussie Smollett, started a highly " Divisive" racial shit storm based on a 2 year old pull cord, and then doubled down on the "That was a noose" after 15 FBI agents concluded it was not. Only now does he admit that it wasn't a noose.  

Quote:
Leadership, no matter what happens you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible


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Quote:
As a third example we could also witness how the USA is handling the Covid-19 pandemic. He deserves all the flak there to.


Trump tries to stop flights in from Asia early

" Trump is Racist "

Trump suggests lock down measures

" Trump plans to use Totalitarian power to lock us down! "

Trump says OK then, Leave it to individual Governors

" Trump is letting these Filthy Cretans Protest Lockdowns! "

Same Governors and Media outlets a Month later

" Get out there and protest for BLM!  "

Short memory MOOXE ?  

Your problem is that like you said, you barely pay attention.  But you openly contribute to the spread of false narratives based on feels and things you heard out of the corner of your ear.  Maybe a little more "attention to detail" .
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__Creeper__

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:37 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Meant to say Dark and Divisive
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mooxe

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:57 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

I understood that posting any amount of examples will never be enough. Like I said, I am not trying to convert anyone. Since you've been able to discern that I have TDS and am spreading false narratives based on my post history here, you should also understand my low effort reply to you.
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__Creeper__

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:23 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
I understood that posting any amount of examples will never be enough. Like I said, I am not trying to convert anyone. Since you've been able to discern that I have TDS and am spreading false narratives based on my post history here, you should also understand my low effort reply to you.


You started out with a low effort reply and ended with one. So what's the difference.
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__Creeper__

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:37 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Btw I personally know 3 people who've had Covid19

My friends dad, who is over 60, has COPD and Diabetes. His daughter brought it home from Ontario as a mild cold. The Mother and Dad caught it. The mom described to me directly that she had a headache and general weakness. It lasted a few days. The Dad got hit hard which lead to testing. He had a fever for like 5 days and lost about 20 pounds then bounced right back and is playing poker and golf with us again since about 6 weeks ago or more.  2 of those 3 people would never have known they had Covid19 if not for testing, which only occurred when the dad was hit hard.

Just one mans anecdote, for what little it's worth since you mentioned Covid.
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dj

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:23 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Do you understand why for decades they have called political whores?  It's because they are constantly having to raise money for the next campaign and desperate for money.  Senators have fewer elections but still same concept why they essential serve the wealthy donor class AND say one thing in public and something else behind closed doors.  I have worked at the Ritz-Carlton a long time ago and witness these donor class meetings first hand.  And sometimes they even asked the workers to leave the room so nobody will be there not even the staff.  Romney did that part wrong he let the hotel staff stay there and got caught on video.

Doesn't matter what website highlights his book he was top Conservative radio show host before he worked for MSNBC. He is one of growing list of normal mainstream Conservatives that said no thanks to the Trump cult that has completely hi-jacked the whole Republican Party.  And it's funny how they always come up with some type of excuse to justify why Republicans like Sykes choose to defy Trump and labeled as RHINO.  Sykes is spot on, the Right has completely lost their mind letting a Cult that defends the Confederate flag / statues and attacks the press as enemies of the people.  

Nope not trying to argue just trying to point out what people like Sykes have been trying to tell you.  And for the record I am officially registered as No Party Affiliation and proud not to be Partisan.


Schmal_Turm wrote (View Post):
Dj, when I said that Trump isn’t a political animal, what I was referring to is that he was elected as someone who never had held a political office. Therefore, he is unlike nearly all of the other candidates for President who are “POLITICAL WHORES!” who are willing to do almost anything to get ahead in politics.

Since I am not well acquainted with this Charlie Sykes that you brought up and referred to in your response that spoke glowingly about him (since he is attacking Trump—that is to be expected), but there were some interesting things about his book I got from the article. First is that when you choose an article from a liberal publication you are going to get what you are looking for: namely, dirt on Trump! Second: “Sykes’s model is William F. Buckley.” Now I have never been a big fan of Buckley, and he was willing to destroy a number of staunch conservatives, thus showing that he was a “moderate” at best. Without going into everything the writer said that was hopelessly biased, maybe the reason that Sykes was upset enough to write the book was because he was “A conservative talk-radio host who found himself alienated from his audience and many of his comrades by the rise of Trump.” Hell! He lost his damn job because of Trump! That would make anyone angry.

It used to be that when someone was saying something for or against someone or something then you would look to see who or what he is working for, or who his allies are. Alas, those days are no more when it comes to the mainstream liberal media. So I did my own investigation and what I found is that Mr. Sykes in “2016 was featured for his critiques of Donald Trump and conservative media in articles on the front page of The New York Times, The New York Times Magazine, and NPR. A longtime host of the #1 conservative talk-radio show in Wisconsin, he resigned that position and is now a regular contributor to MSNBC.” So he has found a new audience of those who agree with his bashing of Pres. Trump. Doesn’t that say something about why he is writing his diatribes?

What was especially interesting is the Amazon review given by someone who actually read his book:

He takes on Limbaugh in Chapter 11 by going back to Susan Fluke (of all people) & saying that JCPenny & Sears pulled their ad revenue along with a 'dozen other sponsors' like Netflix. First off, Sears is now bankrupt, JCPenny's stock is almost down to a dollar on the NYSE, and Limbaugh is not only still relevant but Syke's is off the air, his new gig with the other never Trumpers at Bill Kristol's the Weekly Standard is also reportedly up for sale because the GOP can no longer be the party that is for free trade as envisioned (looking back now to the 1990s) when NAFTA opened up Mexico and Canada which wiped out our entire steel producing ability (meaning we can't fight a war because over 300 deficiencies have been found in the supply chain during a recent audit ordered by POTUS Trump) taking jobs from Ohio to Pennsylvannia to Indiana, took away our textile manufacturing capability throughout the Carolinas, Georgia, and Alabama so every t-shirt now does not say made in the usa, and gutted our auto industry both finished car and parts in Michigan, New York, Illinois, Wisconsin, Missouri, Iowa, etc. Charles Sykes wants a gentleman as leader of the country. One who will uphold free trade at the cost of fair trade because to get into a fight with China or Mexico might be too harsh both in policy and "tone."

I find it really difficult to argue with what was just written—but I am sure you will.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:25 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

https://www.amazon.com/Too-Much-Never-Enough-Dangerous/dp/1982141468
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__Creeper__

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

dj wrote (View Post):
https://www.amazon.com/Too-Much-Never-Enough-Dangerous/dp/1982141468  ""explain how her uncle became the man who now threatens the world’s health, economic security, and social fabric""


You could make that statement about any enemy.
If there were any context in there worth knowing then why not just share the details, given that the worlds health, economic security, and "SOCIAL FABRIC" are at stake it's worth that effort and You have read it after all right?...... r r r i i iiiGHT ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

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Do you understand why for decades they have called political whores?  It's because they are constantly having to raise money for the next campaign and desperate for money.  Senators have fewer elections but still same concept why they essential serve the wealthy donor class AND say one thing in public and something else behind closed doors.  I have worked at the Ritz-Carlton a long time ago and witness these donor class meetings first hand.  And sometimes they even asked the workers to leave the room so nobody will be there not even the staff.  Romney did that part wrong he let the hotel staff stay there and got caught on video.

Doesn't matter what website highlights his book he was top Conservative radio show host before he worked for MSNBC. He is one of growing list of normal mainstream Conservatives that said no thanks to the Trump cult that has completely hi-jacked the whole Republican Party.  And it's funny how they always come up with some type of excuse to justify why Republicans like Sykes choose to defy Trump and labeled as RHINO.  Sykes is spot on, the Right has completely lost their mind letting a Cult that defends the Confederate flag / statues and attacks the press as enemies of the people.  

Nope not trying to argue just trying to point out what people like Sykes have been trying to tell you.  And for the record I am officially registered as No Party Affiliation and proud not to be Partisan.


Schmal_Turm wrote (View Post):
Dj, when I said that Trump isn’t a political animal, what I was referring to is that he was elected as someone who never had held a political office. Therefore, he is unlike nearly all of the other candidates for President who are “POLITICAL WHORES!” who are willing to do almost anything to get ahead in politics.

Since I am not well acquainted with this Charlie Sykes that you brought up and referred to in your response that spoke glowingly about him (since he is attacking Trump—that is to be expected), but there were some interesting things about his book I got from the article. First is that when you choose an article from a liberal publication you are going to get what you are looking for: namely, dirt on Trump! Second: “Sykes’s model is William F. Buckley.” Now I have never been a big fan of Buckley, and he was willing to destroy a number of staunch conservatives, thus showing that he was a “moderate” at best. Without going into everything the writer said that was hopelessly biased, maybe the reason that Sykes was upset enough to write the book was because he was “A conservative talk-radio host who found himself alienated from his audience and many of his comrades by the rise of Trump.” Hell! He lost his damn job because of Trump! That would make anyone angry.

It used to be that when someone was saying something for or against someone or something then you would look to see who or what he is working for, or who his allies are. Alas, those days are no more when it comes to the mainstream liberal media. So I did my own investigation and what I found is that Mr. Sykes in “2016 was featured for his critiques of Donald Trump and conservative media in articles on the front page of The New York Times, The New York Times Magazine, and NPR. A longtime host of the #1 conservative talk-radio show in Wisconsin, he resigned that position and is now a regular contributor to MSNBC.” So he has found a new audience of those who agree with his bashing of Pres. Trump. Doesn’t that say something about why he is writing his diatribes?

What was especially interesting is the Amazon review given by someone who actually read his book:

He takes on Limbaugh in Chapter 11 by going back to Susan Fluke (of all people) & saying that JCPenny & Sears pulled their ad revenue along with a 'dozen other sponsors' like Netflix. First off, Sears is now bankrupt, JCPenny's stock is almost down to a dollar on the NYSE, and Limbaugh is not only still relevant but Syke's is off the air, his new gig with the other never Trumpers at Bill Kristol's the Weekly Standard is also reportedly up for sale because the GOP can no longer be the party that is for free trade as envisioned (looking back now to the 1990s) when NAFTA opened up Mexico and Canada which wiped out our entire steel producing ability (meaning we can't fight a war because over 300 deficiencies have been found in the supply chain during a recent audit ordered by POTUS Trump) taking jobs from Ohio to Pennsylvannia to Indiana, took away our textile manufacturing capability throughout the Carolinas, Georgia, and Alabama so every t-shirt now does not say made in the usa, and gutted our auto industry both finished car and parts in Michigan, New York, Illinois, Wisconsin, Missouri, Iowa, etc. Charles Sykes wants a gentleman as leader of the country. One who will uphold free trade at the cost of fair trade because to get into a fight with China or Mexico might be too harsh both in policy and "tone."

I find it really difficult to argue with what was just written—but I am sure you will.



I'm only pretty sure I remember, many years ago, watching video clips of Romney Campaigning on different sides of the same issue from one state to another.   Anyway, this falls into my own way of looking at things, that both party's are bought and sold, and often by the same people. That's why changing minds is more important than votes. Bad governments slide right off the backs of people with solid principles and values.  A people greatly divided are leveraged against one another, and the Government wins.
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I think this says a lot about the mentality of the rabid Democrat Leftists:


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