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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:47 pm Post subject: One hour of Ukrainian war (from soldier eyes) Reply with quote

In July,13 Ukraine claimed one combat medic loss in Donbass - https://www.unian.info/war/donbas-war-ukrainian-military-medic-killed-in-enemy-shelling-on-july-13-11073236.html  
He was later identified as Estonian citizen https://www.unian.info/war/attack-on-medic-in-donbas-dna-tests-let-ukraine-identify-returned-body-11082032.html
 
The video from his cam was published in Internet, here is most quality version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH0wwgU5AG8
Everybody can watch in it camouflaged white helmets, AK-styled first aid kits in arms and so on from the news. No version with english subtitles yet, can explain some parts for those interested

Many here was once in military, so know already, that nothing good is in war, any war. For newcomers it is better to watch how war is dumb and horrific: get dumb orders, crawl for half an hour in grass, to be abandoned by fellow soldiers, then your nerves crack, you start running as wild moose and ugly final in blast of landmine.
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mooxe

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: One hour of Ukrainian war (from soldier eyes) Reply with quote

Why did the Russians invade again?
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paratmar

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:26 am Post subject: Re: One hour of Ukrainian war (from soldier eyes) Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
Why did the Russians invade again?



Where did the Russians invade again?
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mooxe

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: One hour of Ukrainian war (from soldier eyes) Reply with quote

I thought there was Russian troops in Ukraine?
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: One hour of Ukrainian war (from soldier eyes) Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
Why did the Russians invade again?

Relax, man, Russians invade everywhere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EqWUqYxx48
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__Creeper__

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: One hour of Ukrainian war (from soldier eyes) Reply with quote

The fuck did I just sign up for.
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paratmar

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: One hour of Ukrainian war (from soldier eyes) Reply with quote

JFFulcrum wrote (View Post):
mooxe wrote (View Post):
Why did the Russians invade again?

Relax, man, Russians invade everywhere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EqWUqYxx48



Cool  Cool  Cool  Laughing
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dj

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: One hour of Ukrainian war (from soldier eyes) Reply with quote

In the words of one Ukrainian on this other video, "what's so special about this land?"  to fight over.  Looks like after 7 years no end in sight for this state of war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GVLPeAPNB8

I asked my Ukrainian co-worker if she was pro-Russia or pro-Ukrainian, she said neither.  And mentioned that both Russia and Ukraine are extremely corrupt governments regardless of who is in power.

Here is captured FSB video of Russian sniper squad with state of the art gear including radio-jammer.  And AK105 only available in Russia for elite special forces only.  Best video I've seen thus far by Radio Free Europe.  Big mystery is how Ukraine was able to seize this video from FSB forces.  The rare AK105 serves as credible evidence video is authentic. Plus French-made laser range finder and other elite gear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjYhgh6F0t8
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dj

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: One hour of Ukrainian war (from soldier eyes) Reply with quote

Is the Radio Free Europe video censored in Russia?
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dj

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: One hour of Ukrainian war (from soldier eyes) Reply with quote

And the irony of alleged Russian FSB elite sniper squads relying on NATO member nations Britain and France gear in their units.  I guess the sanctions don't apply for military arms sales as long as a dollar can be made they magically find a way to make arms deal happen.
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paratmar

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: One hour of Ukrainian war (from soldier eyes) Reply with quote

[quote="dj";p="91366"]In the words of one Ukrainian on this other video, "what's so special about this land?"  to fight over.  Looks like after 7 years no end in sight for this state of war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GVLPeAP


Look at 11:40 and 19:00....I think peaple better know who shoot
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paratmar

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: One hour of Ukrainian war (from soldier eyes) Reply with quote

dj wrote (View Post):
In the words of one Ukrainian on this other video, "what's so special about this land?"  to fight over.  Looks like after 7 years no end in sight for this state of war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GVLPeAPNB8

I asked my Ukrainian co-worker if she was pro-Russia or pro-Ukrainian, she said neither.  And mentioned that both Russia and Ukraine are extremely corrupt governments regardless of who is in power.

Here is captured FSB video of Russian sniper squad with state of the art gear including radio-jammer.  And AK105 only available in Russia for elite special forces only.  Best video I've seen thus far by Radio Free Europe.  Big mystery is how Ukraine was able to seize this video from FSB forces.  The rare AK105 serves as credible evidence video is authentic. Plus French-made laser range finder and other elite gear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjYhgh6F0t8



Sorry. Its correct....Look at 11:40 and 19:00....I think peaple better know who shoot
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: One hour of Ukrainian war (from soldier eyes) Reply with quote

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And AK105 only available in Russia for elite special forces only.

You (and 'experts' in video) mess it with AK-107. AK-105 is a 90`s lift-up of AK-74M and comes for export to several countries. Although what is shown not looks like any serial AK, it is deep customization or some 'enhanced' AK-clone from other eastern-europe country.

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Is the Radio Free Europe video censored in Russia?

No

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And mentioned that both Russia and Ukraine are extremely corrupt governments regardless of who is in power.

Truth. This endless war have beneficiaries in both governments, and mutually useful to utilize unnecessary mens on battlefield, who otherwise may make troubles for governments itself. As we can see, even EU countries dump their society-unfit citizens to this meat-chopper.
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