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paratmar

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
This particular video I think was referenced here a few pages back, as it did take place in March. Reasonable people would find this a war crime.

Its probably difficult for many Ukrainian aligned countries and people to have much empathy for the invading Russians. For Russians to be upset about war crimes committed against them in a country Russia invaded overlooks the entire point that Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia can leave Ukraine right?

No need to empathyzied for the Russians. Just folow the rules to warprizoners (not like in Malmedy) and be objective.
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dj

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

Even Hitler didn't use Chemical weapons in combat.  Russia is responsible for the Chemical attacks in Syria and appears to be prepping for false flag attacks in Ukraine also...perhaps even Tactical nukes.  Because assaults on large Urban centres have been miserable failures.  Russia does not appear to have sufficient manpower to take any large Ukrainian cities.

Witness testimonies of local Ukrainian women survivors whom are old enough to WW2 were documented.  They described the executions of all adult males and Russians were indoctrinated into thinking they were "Nazi's".  Two Ukrainian women described behavior of Russian troops as much worse than how the Germans treated local populations (non-Jews).  They said at least the Germans did not systematically fire on civilian populations that did not pose threat and just trying to flee.

The evidence is clear, Russian troops have been completely brainwashed with hatred of the Ukrainians and committed mass atrocities, including burning corpses to hide evidence of torture before executions.  Also some reports of Russians cremating the bodies of their own KIA troops to hide that evidence too.  Russia is trying to downplay their casualties.
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Tejszd

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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2022 1:54 am Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

Finland and Sweden want to join NATO as neither of them want to be the next country Putin decides to save from the West by bombing their cities and shooting those who didn't run away early enough...
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paratmar

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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2022 4:15 am Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

dj wrote (View Post):
Even Hitler didn't use Chemical weapons in combat.  Russia is responsible for the Chemical attacks in Syria and appears to be prepping for false flag attacks in Ukraine also...perhaps even Tactical nukes.  Because assaults on large Urban centres have been miserable failures.  Russia does not appear to have sufficient manpower to take any large Ukrainian cities.

Witness testimonies of local Ukrainian women survivors whom are old enough to WW2 were documented.  They described the executions of all adult males and Russians were indoctrinated into thinking they were "Nazi's".  Two Ukrainian women described behavior of Russian troops as much worse than how the Germans treated local populations (non-Jews).  They said at least the Germans did not systematically fire on civilian populations that did not pose threat and just trying to flee.

The evidence is clear, Russian troops have been completely brainwashed with hatred of the Ukrainians and committed mass atrocities, including burning corpses to hide evidence of torture before executions.  Also some reports of Russians cremating the bodies of their own KIA troops to hide that evidence too.  Russia is trying to downplay their casualties.

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paratmar

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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2022 4:19 am Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

Tejszd wrote (View Post):
Finland and Sweden want to join NATO as neither of them want to be the next country Putin decides to save from the West by bombing their cities and shooting those who didn't run away early enough...

It's as if Mexico joined the CSTO to protect against the United States)))
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dj

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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2022 5:28 am Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

Not a valid analogy.  Finland is the former WW2 German ally that shares border with Russia.  Never settled old disputes with Russia.  Actually Finland was invaded twice in less than 100 years by Russia.  Sweden knows Finland is vulnerable, and they would be next should they fall.  Also Sweden had many battles over centuries with Russia in old times.

Although Mexico did have one major war with USA but way back in 1800's.  Rest were small skirmishes pre WW1 era, since then USA and Mexico are friendly trading partners past 100 years.
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paratmar

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2022 7:08 am Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

https://sonar21.com/azov-battalion-giving-up-the-ghost-in-avostal/
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mooxe

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2022 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

paratmar wrote (View Post):
https://sonar21.com/azov-battalion-giving-up-the-ghost-in-avostal/  


Context paratmar?

Are you posting this link to show us an American who is sympathetic to Russian wars? Or Mariupal has finally fallen? Or is it the claim there's Nazi's in the Azov battalion? Every major news source is covering these points but you pick a blogger?


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paratmar

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2022 5:05 am Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
paratmar wrote (View Post):
https://sonar21.com/azov-battalion-giving-up-the-ghost-in-avostal/  


Context paratmar?

Are you posting this link to show us an American who is sympathetic to Russian wars? Or Mariupal has finally fallen? Or is it the claim there's Nazi's in the Azov battalion? Every major news source is covering these points but you pick a blogger?

This is information on the topic of the forum "War in Ukraine". This is food for thought. No axiology. No subjective value judgment. Just information on the topic for homo sapiens, not homo emoticus. Sapienti sat).
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paratmar

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:22 am Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

An interesting video, as the title of the video says: "A T-80 tank was ambushed by the military of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and entered the battle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG4MTtV4taY&ab_channel=%D0%A0%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%B7%D1%83%D0%B9%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%B7%D1%83%D0%B9
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paratmar

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2022 8:30 am Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

Tattoos of "Azov" who surrendered in Mariupol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGg07FpmcKc&t=81s&ab_channel=%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC
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mooxe

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2022 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

paratmar wrote (View Post):
Tattoos of "Azov" who surrendered in Mariupol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGg07FpmcKc&t=81s&ab_channel=%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC  


What do you think of the tattoos paratmar?


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paratmar

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 4:36 am Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
paratmar wrote (View Post):
Tattoos of "Azov" who surrendered in Mariupol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGg07FpmcKc&t=81s&ab_channel=%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC  


What do you think of the tattoos paratmar?

Infantile part of my personality says that these are very interesting tattoos))). Of course, I would prefer more Vikings themes) Satanism and Bandera are too much in my opinion. But, like these surrendered "guys" I would not go to die for "teenage hobbies." But unfortunately for their "teenage pranks" they will have to answer. Retribution for deeds is inevitable. You can understand them, but you can't forgive. Se la vie.
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Berger

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 7:31 am Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

Azov good old days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJgSdtQs--8

Ironically they were terminated in the steelworks.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

Previously: https://24tv.ua/ru/pogranichnik-roman-gribov-kotoryj-poslal-russkij-korabl-nahj_n1927033
Now: https://www-pravda-com-ua.translate.goog/rus/news/2022/05/23/7348027/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
 
'Comrade Ogilvy' in action.  

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Demchenko clarified that the recording of the conversation was made by border guards who were 50 kilometers from the defenders of the island, on the mainland of the Odessa region in another border unit, where there is also a radio station. They listened to and recorded conversations that sounded on the radio in order to record the aggression of Russian ships at sea.


So the videos was probably also fake, partially or fully: they first appear in russian propagandists telegram channel, we hear loudspeakers instead of radios, and the script slightly different.  

Original audio may also be a fake, it contain several errors, which everybody decided to honestly ignore
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2022 9:01 am Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/war-crimes-trial-of-russian-soldier-was-perfectly-legal-but-that-doesn-t-make-it-wise/ar-AAXC6JZ  

Difficulties of war crimes trials in the world of post-modern, with no peace or war.
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paratmar

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

Close Combat in transhes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbLrfgwHUCw&ab_channel=AleksanderBessmertni
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dj

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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2022 4:15 am Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

Russian State apparently will charge the Mariupol prisoners whom surrendered with war crimes against "civilians".  Don't think they will be so lucky for prisoner exchange.  Is this true what Russian media tells people that Mariupol POW's facing criminal charges?
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paratmar

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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2022 5:29 am Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

dj wrote (View Post):
Russian State apparently will charge the Mariupol prisoners whom surrendered with war crimes against "civilians".  Don't think they will be so lucky for prisoner exchange.  Is this true what Russian media tells people that Mariupol POW's facing criminal charges?

Personally, I don’t watch media, I watch YouTube and telegram channels)
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2022 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: War in Ukraine? Reply with quote

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Mariupol POW's facing criminal charges?


Because Mariupol claimed as part of DPR, the trials will be in Donetsk. And many NAVOZ warlords will face also crimes performed since 2014
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