mooxe wrote (View Post): |
I am glad the Ukraine has started cleaning house. They are going to have to be careful though. No doubt the Russians will be trying very hard to manipulate and steer the Ukrainian forces into larger "actions" in order to have a reason to deploy the Russian military inside the Ukraine. |
Dima wrote (View Post): | ||
ahha, looks the brainwashing machine is working at full speed at your places . why when the Ukraine tried to clean their house in Kiev 3-4 months ago using riot police against protesters all the West was against it and even forced the cabinet and president to flee? What has changed and why the new Ukranian goverment is allowed to use deadly forces against protesters in the South East? Why hasn't Russia deployed military in the Ukraine before even when the legal president was asking for that? Why would the RF willing to do that now? |
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I look at this situation in very simple terms. If government buildings are being taken over by armed people, then the government must clear them out and regain control. Is this not whats happening? |
mooxe wrote (View Post): |
Is what I said really that absurd after what happened in Crimea? I don't think I'm brainwashed. I look at this situation in very simple terms. If government buildings are being taken over by armed people, then the government must clear them out and regain control. Is this not whats happening?
They must regain control of the country and stabilize it. I could care less about the back story and conspiracy theories. After Crimea I do know that if things start to get bloody in areas predominantly Russian, ofcourse Russia will start stepping in. They did it in Crimea before any violence started! If they step in in a peacekeeping/protective and leave after the violence is quelled then fine. But if they step in and support a referendum then that gives credence to all the stories of Russian trying to take the Ukraine piece by piece. How it got to this point doesn't really matter anymore, it's whats happening now and in the future that matters. |
sieterayos wrote (View Post): | ||||
Yup. There are links or references to factual sources in this thread that demonstrate- 1. The US spent $5 billion in the Ukraine since the 1990s creating and cultivating friendly political forces. 2. The aim of this cultivation was regime change and the installation of a compliant puppet regime. 3. The US/EU knowingly employed neo-Nazi forces which the latter had only in 2012 asked other political parties in Ukraine not to ally or associate with, to spearhead their putsch in Kiev. This known and verifiable information is seldom mentioned in the western media and never investigated, in favour of publicising as good coin, the belligerent, hypocritical and utterly false utterances of western and Kiev putsch politicians and diplomats. Further, there are links to evidence that strongly suggest that western backed fascists were responsible for killing protesters in Kiev to justify regime change. From this we can deduce that the western media, state and privately owned, is acting in concert to deceive its populations in the run up to a western provoked war with the Russian federation. That the Russian Federation media and its politicians are no less corrupt is irrelevant to this situation. This situation is clearly not of their making. |
mooxe wrote (View Post): |
I believe a reasonable person would agree with my previous post.
To add to it, I am predicting the Ukraine will be further split up. Not necessarily ceded to Russia, but maybe made a country or state on its own, ripe for the picking years down the road. I guess we can just agree that everything I say, you say and what everyone else says is propaganda. You literally cannot form an opinion on anything without the influence of something. |
dj wrote (View Post): |
Siet what is your definition of "fascist"? |
dj wrote (View Post): |
Why would the west create a conspiracy to start war with Russian Federation. Because ethnic Russians are being oppressed in Crimea or Eastern Ukraine?
Sounds like a nice conspiracy theory but is just not credible. Political and Economic factions for centuries have used puppets and purchased the influence of leaders, regardless of ideology or religion. Where is your alleged evidence? A Partisan website or blog? |
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He (Putin) also admitted for the first time that Russian troops had been "behind the backs of self-defence forces in Crimea" to ensure that last month's referendum there could be held and that weapons stores were not seized by Ukrainian forces. |
mooxe wrote (View Post): | ||
From BBC...
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Tippi-Simo wrote (View Post): |
I really have no idea wtf is going on..
but I hope that I´m not being killed on 25th of April when I cross the border from Finland to Rodina.. Peace out bros! |
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