Dima wrote (View Post): |
From a couple of days ago they started to quote the Den Haage court process regarding Kosovo in Dec 2009 where the US, Germany, British, Austria representatives all said that any part of any country could declare independancy through referendum - we all know what was a court decision that time |
Dima wrote (View Post): |
That's a nice page about situation in Ukraine http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/02/27/world/europe/ukraine-divisions-crimea.html?hp&_r=1 |
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I know there's lots of comparing going around. Every one of these situations are very very different though. Most of the foreign intervention in Kosovo came after all the bloodshed of the Balkan wars. From what I can tell Crimea was never headed towards civil war in the first place, so why are all the Russian troops there? |
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I keep seeing reports that Putin is saying no Russian troops are in Crimea. These troops we are seeing are local militias. What are they saying about this in Russia Dima? |
johnsilver wrote (View Post): |
If Romney, or McCain had been president? Same thing could have been a possibility, granted. The trail of errors leading up to it would not have been.. Slashing of military budgets. Removal of US forces around the globe (portraying weakness). Attempting a "reset" with someone who never wanted it to start with (and both McCain/Palin are on record with this from 2008). |
johnsilver wrote (View Post): |
Slashing of military budgets. Removal of US forces around the globe (portraying weakness). Attempting a "reset" with someone who never wanted it to start with (and both McCain/Palin are on record with this from 2008).
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johnsilver wrote (View Post): |
Portraying weakness invites this type of behavior. Yes, it doesn't particularly involve the US, but it eventually could. I understand where Obama is coming from and he is of the total isolationist movement, |
johnsilver wrote (View Post): |
Portraying weakness invites this type of behavior. |
Dima wrote (View Post): | ||
today an interesting version appeared that these "polite armed troopers in the Russian camo" could be the EU based PMCs hired by Crimean authorities - we'll see if this version will have any proofs though. but in case they are really PMCs it appears that Putin was not lying . |
sieterayos wrote (View Post): |
There is no resolution to this crisis in the phoney pretexts presented by any politicians or their media accomplices. The solution lies in the unity of the Russian with Ukrainian working class around an internationalist socialist program against the warmongers of the Kremlin, Washington and Berlin and against all the Ukrainian oligarchs. Clearly, we're a long way from that. |
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Oleh Tyahnybok hailed John Demjanjuk, accomplice in the murder of 30 000 people in Sobibor, a hero. His deputy, Yuriy Mykhalchyshyn, founded the “Joseph Goebbels Political Research Center,” a Neo-Nazi think tank. Andriy Parubiy is a founder of this movement. He orchestrated the Right Sector including the UNA-UNSO para-militaries, who, when not dressed and waving swastika like banners in the style of 1930s fascist thugs, provoked pitched battles with the police during the protests. Parubiy is now minister for the armed forces in the Kiev junta. |
pvt_Grunt wrote (View Post): |
btw Siet, Sulla is waiting for you..... http://www.closecombat.org/csoforums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14633 |
dj wrote (View Post): | ||
Wow I just had a flashback from 10 years ago. You know that really IS Siet when he plants the longest post in the thread. Ukraine is screwed...they have no money, no jobs, no oil or natural resources ( at least that keeps them safe from potential rise of another war-hawk right wing USA regime ). So it is true they will be torn like a rag doll between Putin and the "West". Putin is shrewd and calculating...he knows full well when to exploit a situation for political gain. |
sieterayos wrote (View Post): | ||||
In what way Putin is gaining from this, I just can't imagine. A temporary patriotic surge will give way to unrest as sanctions kick in and/or a shooting war with US backed Ukraine opens up. Nuclear conflagration? That's good for his opinion pol ratings, sure. |
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