Stwa wrote (View Post): |
Ya, but I didn't ask ANYBODY for any of that. But, with all this BS floating around this thread. This is my take away of the Churchill Crocodile during Operation Epsom, based on a limited information set. [quote]1. The fuel trailer in the Crocodile "system" leaked like a sieve. Not just components associated with pressurization, but the steel plates forming the body of the trailer itself. |
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2. It normally would take 15 minutes to pressurize the fuel trailer. But others found, that you might need up to 48 hours (2 days) to complete this task. Operation Epsom lasted 5 days by comparison. |
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3. Only the 141st RAC had Mk VII Churchills and Crocodile fuel trailers at this time. These were supplied by 79th Armoured Division. |
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4. The 141st RAC had no more than 6 Mk VII Churchills at this time. It is unclear [to me] if there were in fact 6 fuel trailers. |
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5. I could only find one source (Dima's Library) that indicated Crocodile action (combat?) during Operation Epsom, where all 3 Mk VII tanks were disabled but recovered from the field. That leaves 3 Mk VIIs left, until these disabled tanks could be repaired. |
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I fiinally got access to the 141st RAC War Diaries, and as might be expected, Dima has been withholding some important information about the Crocodiles during Epsom. What a creep! |
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So, I am going to revise my estimate of Churchill Mk VII tanks made available for Epsom, to 5 tanks instead of the 6 I reported before. |
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But also notice the crew casualties that Dima failed to tell us about before. |
Stwa wrote (View Post): |
false estimation. try again -Dima
Then provide an Orbat for regiment, you spammer, otherwise I use the one I already retrieved, where the troops had less than 3 tanks. Some troops only had 1 tank. |
Stwa wrote (View Post): |
OK, a tip for you, find the Orbat otherwise I use the one I have already retrieved. How many tanks in each troop? (1,2, or 3)
For all I know, for purposes of driving down a road, troops are 1 tank each. |
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Don't you get the sense that this unit (the 141st) is having a hardware isssue. |
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What happened to Squad C at Juno, or was it Gold, I have already forgotton |
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Maybe you can tell us how many tanks landed, and were they Squad A tanks, B tanks, or C tanks. Does a tank count as landed even if it is underwater? You have all the literature, so you are just lazy! But really, I am more interested in the fuel trailers. So, how many of those went into the channel. |
Stwa wrote (View Post): |
141RAC landed 1 troop with 3 Crocs on June 6 on Gold. -Dima
Only 2 Troops of C were landing on Gold and lost 4 of 6 tanks drowned. -Dima Yes, they [141 RAC]lost 3 fuel trailers drowned on June 6th as irretrivable losses. -Dima So, how many Churchill Mk VII tanks were landed on D-DAY? How many Mk VII flamethrower kits with trailer were landed on D-DAY? And, how many Crocodiles (Mk VII + Flamethrower Field Kits attached) were operated (on land) during D-DAY? |
Bungarra wrote (View Post): |
At CREULEY the advance was held up for several hours by two Tigers which had concealed themselves in a wood. Three Shermans were knocked out one after the other attempting to get forward and this advance was not continued until a Sherman with a 17 pounder was brought up.
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