Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:31 pm
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:30 pm| AT_Stalky wrote (View Post): | ||||
Hay Troger!
Hm, I actually said:
So I agree with you. We the European have to deal with BOTH the 30% of Americans that might just win the next election and the Russians. |
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I’m Swede, part Finland. We have dealt with Russia for 400 years or more, long before America was a nation. As soon as we have a problem, we just have to scratch the surface at it and there is a little Russian tsar popping out, whit, red or brown. No matter color they are the same. As a nation, we would not ever trust Russia, plugging in to Russian gas was just a laugh here… And we rolled our eyes when Germans et al went for that idea. But here we are. |
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:40 am| AT_Stalky wrote (View Post): |
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Russian are to be happy, they only have to deal with the American right wing- religious- war- mongering idiots.
Americans should be happy too, they only have to deal with the cultural- and tecnologically- always five step behind, agressive -expanding-neo-empire-nationalistic Russians. But we the Europeans, have to deal with both. |
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:24 am| Quote: |
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Let’s look at another subject, where Putin-Russia stands out.
Corruption! Russia is ranked 35 in the world on corruption. That’s not bad is it? Na, see, being No:1 is not the best, but the worst. Being at the end of the list at rank 180 would be the best. There Putin-Russia is at Rank 35, amongst Sierra Leone, and Timor… Actually Pakistan is at rank 43 LOL, thus outperforms Russia… Bangladesh at rank 45, Uganda at 46, Nigeria at rank 47… Now there’s some countries that Putin Russia should have as role models. And now Putin-Russia is to export its superior tec, culture and socio/economic models to its neighbours. Link: http://www.ranker.com/list/the-most-corrupt-countries-in-the-world/info-lists?limit=100 |
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:47 am| Dima wrote (View Post): |
| Yes, I think it's good that after 23 years we already have 6 companies in the World top 100 as in 1991 Russia was deserted like after the big WAR with factories not working, salaries not paid and empty stocks in stores. . |
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:57 am| Dima wrote (View Post): | ||
Stalk,
http://www.transparency.org/cpi2013/results http://www.transparency.org/cpi2010/results According to the Transparence International Corruption Perceptions Index Russia went from place 154 (out of 178) in 2010 to place 127 (out of 175) in 2013. So it's obvious we are fighting the corruption here slowly
While in same time f.e. Ukraine went from place 134 (out of 178) in 2010 to place 144 (out of 175) in 2013. |
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:37 am
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:41 amPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:54 pmPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:40 amPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:01 amPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:47 am| Troger wrote (View Post): |
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Where did you hear/read that? Today Andriy Lysenko claimed that the two Ukrainian fighter jets that were downed yesterday were taken out by missiles fired by the Russian military in Russia.
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| I think people know that the Russia military wasn't the one that downed MH17. But it is Russia that equipped the Ukrainian nationals (who are ethnically Russian) with the weaponry (among many other things) used to down that plane |
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:11 am| mooxe wrote (View Post): |
| I am finding it increasingly amusing though that ever since Crimea happened Dima has basically been towing the party line of, "Its not Russia." At first it was "there's no Russian troops in Crimea" to "there's no build of troops on the border" |
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| to "we had no role in MH17" ... I mean really... Is Russia just ignoring the civil war right on their doorstep, business as usual move along please? |
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| Is Russia doing ANYTHING at all? |
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:15 amPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:39 pm| zwizdan007 wrote (View Post): |
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Possibility that MH was shot down by AA missile should also be taken into consideration.
My personal opinion, after collecting info from different sources, is that goverment forces shot down MH17. |
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:56 pm| zwizdan007 wrote (View Post): | ||
Here is my post from 20th July. I am still confident that investigation will prove this.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:14 pm| mooxe wrote (View Post): |
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Yeah I Google'd what Dima said and couldn't find that anywhere.
I am happy Dima is here though telling us his thoughts on these matters. There's no other Russians to do this at CCS. I am finding it increasingly amusing though that ever since Crimea happened Dima has basically been towing the party line of, "Its not Russia." At first it was "there's no Russian troops in Crimea" to "there's no build of troops on the border" to "we had no role in MH17" ... I mean really... Is Russia just ignoring the civil war right on their doorstep, business as usual move along please? Is Russia doing ANYTHING at all? |
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:52 pm| Cathartes wrote (View Post): |
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I thought this opinion piece in the Washington Post was interesting. It's a rather simplified, US-centric opinion, but it makes some sense based on what we've read in this thread:
It’s not just about the Malaysian flight. Russians are living in an alternate reality. |
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:16 pm| Dima wrote (View Post): | ||
I actually tend to agree to that. today I had a big argument with my employees explaining them why can't we just invade and occupy Ukraine. Had a hard time explaining them that when you have an economics like Russia and all the foreign payments go through New York you should sit on your ass and breath calm even if you have enough nukes to kill the World. And I agree that most of the Russian population is really living in the alternate reality. But that doesn't prove anything about MH17.... |
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