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#1: Anyone still playing? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:19 am
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I'm not.

#2: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: Pzt_Crackwise, Location: Switzerland

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:37 am
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Stopped playing due to unavoidable idiotic multiplayer crashes. They claim to have fixed these issues with the patch, but haven't had time to check it so far. And actually I won't have time for a month or so to play anyway, due to more urgent real life matters.

#3: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: Rodmorg, Location: Bournemouth

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:10 am
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I am and will be continuing since there are some mods coming soon.

#4: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: platoon_michael, Location: Right behind you

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:30 pm
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Very little to not much.
I'm trying to play the GC but its hard.

I'm hoping Dima's Mod will get me into it but even then I feel someone needs to cut the maps down.

stwa:
You interested in cutting the maps down for me/us?
I know you can do it in seconds.

#5: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: Stwa,

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:17 am
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Hi platoon michael,

Ordinarily, I would not mind at all. But it is the same answer is used with Schrecken.

I (we) are applying the determination that a cutdown map is just a partial copy of the original map. Like making a copy of some (but not all) of a page in a book.

If true, a cutdown map (if distributed) would constitute copyright infringement.

That being said, I don't like discussing it, because I am hardly an expert on the subject, the laws keep changing, and in the end it always seems like a waste of time even thinking about it.

Most maps in the various CC games break the AI once they achieve a certain size. In reality, a 40 x 40 CCMT map has 4 times the area of 20 x 20 CC5 map. The AI does move on these maps, and it will attack. It just takes forever for the AI to crawl (sneak) from point A to point B.

#6: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: Pzt_Crackwise, Location: Switzerland

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:36 am
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platoon_michael wrote (View Post):

Very little to not much.
I'm trying to play the GC but its hard.

I'm hoping Dima's Mod will get me into it but even then I feel someone needs to cut the maps down.

stwa:
You interested in cutting the maps down for me/us?
I know you can do it in seconds.

I think TIK (TheImparatorKnight) is cutting down the maps to make a small map mod and mentions on his channel that he is already half-way through with it. Check his Youtube channel, he has a nice thing going on there and also shows his modding works.

Smaller maps will make playing against the AI more fun for sure, but it is pointless if your main reason for playing CC is playing it multiplayer (in my case). :)

Edit: Why would cutting down maps be considered copyright infringement? After all, you are not distributing it for money. Then all other mods should also be illegal, since they use data and elements from the original game? I have not heard of such a thing before, strange.

#7: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: Stwa,

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:48 am
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Why would cutting down maps be considered copyright infringement? After all, you are not distributing it for money. Then all other mods should also be illegal, since they use data and elements from the original game? I have not heard of such a thing before, strange. -Crackwise

Like I said, I am no expert, but I do know the laws have changed already, where the "no profit" or "no money" defense is no longer applicable.

To what extent "data" is subject to copyright laws, I cannot say. I do not know, and I don't want to pay an attorney to tell me one way or another, since he might be wrong as well. There was a rumor concerning "the quantity" of such items copied. But me thinks that defense is also no longer applicable.

Perhaps the copyright holders of the maps wouldn't mind issuing a written and signed waiver allowing you to make modifcations to their maps. But, I have not heard of such a thing before, strange.

#8: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: Schmal_Turm,

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:04 am
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I would be playing but between all of the play testing and the numerous games against the AI after the release, I have gone though so many of each campaign at work that I needed a break. So moved onto COI for the time being.

As far as the copyright issue: I can't see that the company would gain anything by going after people even if they could. I assume that the modding option includes changing the maps also.

#9: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: platoon_michael, Location: Right behind you

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:33 pm
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Thank-You Pzt_Crackwise

Does anyone know if CC2Tools will work with maps from GWTC?

#10: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: Troger, Location: L4W's place, Australia

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:29 am
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I haven't in a while. Operations don't seem to be good for H2H. Data isn't good for H2H. Crashing is still a problem.

Dima's mod will hopefully fix some things, or at the very least give a better base to work off for future mods.

#11: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: Stwa,

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:22 am
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Schmal_Turm wrote (View Post):

As far as the copyright issue: I can't see that the company would gain anything by going after people even if they could. I assume that the modding option includes changing the maps also.

Sure, if you change a map substantially, then there would be no danger of copyright infringement.

But, just cutting them down a little really doesn't change anything, it just removes some (but not all) of the copied map.

BTW, what do you mean by the "modding option".

#12: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: Schmal_Turm,

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:38 pm
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Stwa, I may have spoken incorrectly but from what I have been hearing and seeing nearly all the CC games are moddable. Is that not correct? Is there not a modding option on GtC?

#13: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: platoon_michael, Location: Right behind you

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:23 am
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Why is there no workbook for GWTC?

Not even a request for one.
Is this just an oversight or the beginning implements of a Trend?

#14: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: Dima,

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:51 am
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platoon_michael wrote (View Post):

Why is there no workbook for GWTC?
Not even a request for one.
Is this just an oversight or the beginning implements of a Trend?

I use PITF workbook for GTC data.

#15: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: Stwa,

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:27 am
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Schmal_Turm wrote (View Post):

Stwa, I may have spoken incorrectly but from what I have been hearing and seeing nearly all the CC games are moddable. Is that not correct? Is there not a modding option on GtC?

Hey,

I am completely clueless. I have seen a lot of people come through the forum and allude to this "modding option", but I have not seen anything in writing from Matrix. But, that being said, I haven't been looking to hard for it either.

The attachment below shows the CCMT License Agreement.

If "The Enclosed Software Program" refers only to the CCMT.EXE file, then maybe it is OK to mod, change, or copy the maps.

If "The Enclosed Software Program" refers to everything that was installed, like data files, map files, etc., then maybe it is NOT OK to mod, change, or copy the maps.

#16: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: Hesus,

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:30 am
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I keep reading stuff about MP crashes but haven't encountered any of them, i have been playing with a friend of mine and we are a few day's in our grand campaign and didn't get any crash.

#17: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:26 pm
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Been playing on and off. I have mixed feelings on PiTF and GtC changes from LSA; sepecifically the inability to select individual teams/vehicles and the map scale (originally thought it was good) as you get vehicles destroyed without seeing what shot it.

Still slowly moving Meuse to LSA.

#18: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: southern_land,

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:00 am
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Tejszd wrote (View Post):

Still slowly moving Meuse to LSA.

Where's my whip?

#19: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: johnsilver, Location: Florida

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:26 am
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Quote:

I would be playing but between all of the play testing and the numerous games against the AI after the release, I have gone though so many of each campaign at work that I needed a break.

That's me too. Played all the campaigns, switched sides, then played some of the ops.. Still love the game and the improvements over PiTF (mortars don't kill everything etc..), but cannot play the same thing forever without change.

Back on CC5 mods again now, Nomada's '46 to be exact getting ready for his GTC of the same name hopefully soon.

Never could get used to the CC3/COI style forcepool many of us had a blast with years ago again. After came back to CC several years back have stuck to CC5/TLD/WAR style forcepool games and don't know why. We all played with the "tired/rest" thing years ago, even in H2H ops.

#20: Re: Anyone still playing? Author: Sapa,

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:40 am
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I played the Historical Campaign as the Germans and blowed upp 100+ Shermans and then returned to Panzer Corps Rolling Eyes

//Mats

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