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#1: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: Antony_nz,

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:51 am
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New Zealand to send 143 NZ troops to Iraq.

#2: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: johnsilver, Location: Florida

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:20 am
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That is scary Anthony. Several countries have just enough "advisors" in Iraq to make it dangerous for their own well being and safety and not enough to do any good for anything. Like those countries wish to say they are doing something credible, but knowing they are not.

If some of the western countries truly wanted to throw isis back to the hell they came from.. They would put the boots back on the ground that were with drawn that never should have been prematurely and carpet bomb each and every encampment with B-52's from Diego Garcia as just phase I.

Phase II would be allowing the Kurds total independence from iraq and arming them with the latest weaponry, like Israel has been attempting to do clandestinely already.

#3: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: Stwa,

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:43 pm
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I wonder if the Kurds are getting a little thin, since last summer, everyone and their monkey has been saying, "arm the Kurds, they can fight ISIS".

And BTW, I thought the plan was the complete Balkanization of the region.

It would appear that we are financing everyone now, as we did during the Iraq/Iran war.

And remember, as Obama told us, Islam is a religion of peace.

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#4: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: johnsilver, Location: Florida

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:58 am
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arm the Kurds, they can fight ISIS

They were putting up stiff resistance, even as US "trained" Iraqi Battalions were throwing away it's weapons and melting away as Isis hordes confronted them earlier last year.

It's crazy how a group of people.. The Kurds can be looked at like this and never get recognition. They are looked at as terrorists (ppk) thugs.. low life.. Now, there is a universal cause to finally bring them into the fold and undo all those phony labels.. They will fight, while Iraqi's are melting away and imagine many other arab states will also vs Isis. Here is a group of people used to being dealt the short straw and all they need is weapons and supplies. Israel is helping them (oil is returned) and the US should as well, but the US won't even help the Ukranians yet.

Something is badly wrong in the White house.

#5: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: Stwa,

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:37 am
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johnsilver wrote (View Post):

Something is badly wrong in the White house.

One of the things I have had to accept over the last few years is the fact that Obama is always one step ahead, especially when it comes to strategy, and in this case ISIS.

After Marie Harf, mentioned jobs as the only true way to defeat ISIS, Obama's strategy became clear. In fact, I could now understand where Obama is coming from on lots of issues, like immigration.

First, allow ISIS types to immigrate to the US.

Second, give them green cards, food stamps, Obamacare subsidies, and a pathway to citizenship.

After the ISIS types start to gain weight, indoctrinate them with Fat Pride. Idea

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#6: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: vobbnobb,

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:54 am
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Answer me this.. Why are troops never sent to Syria when ISIS was there to begin with? How does it always get back to Iraq before troops are called in? Something is fishy here.

#7: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: sod98,

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:54 am
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vobbnobb wrote (View Post):

Answer me this.. Why are troops never sent to Syria when ISIS was there to begin with? How does it always get back to Iraq before troops are called in? Something is fishy here.

Sending troops into Syria where they aren't wanted by Syria is an act of war. Syria has many times said they don't want Western help after US admitted to aiding the Arab Spring that resulted in the Syrian conflict. Also US and Israel are actively arming different " moderate " rebels groups like Al Nusra til it was found that Al Nusra are a branch of Al Qeada. Currently Syria aren't happy with the bombings taking place in Syria by the West and have stated they will take this matted further - what ever that means.

#8: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: johnsilver, Location: Florida

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:56 am
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vobbnobb wrote (View Post):

Answer me this.. Why are troops never sent to Syria when ISIS was there to begin with? How does it always get back to Iraq before troops are called in? Something is fishy here.

Sod kind of alluded to this, though will add a bit more..

US and especially Israel have armed troops fighting the evil ones.. Syria, Hezbollah and iran. They are formed in Jordan, then set out to Syria from there. Israel did have sort of a buffer zone along the Golan of these troops, but the Iranian backed syrian army has just about destroyed them, though not all. The Israeli's were performing medical benefits for critical wounded even cross border at the Golan.

Remember that mass aerial killing last month of the dozen iranian and ranking syrian leaders? Remember it was at the Golan? Make sense now? Israel was trying to send a message to leave it's buffer troops alone. Not come out anywhere but Debkafile, but Israeli fighters flew over Golan (syria part) again this week while syria dropped barrel bombs on it's buffer troops with choppers. jets intercepted as a warning to cease or else.

Tensions....

#9: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: Stwa,

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:41 pm
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vobbnobb wrote (View Post):

Answer me this.. Why are troops never sent to Syria when ISIS was there to begin with? How does it always get back to Iraq before troops are called in? Something is fishy here.

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#10: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: vobbnobb,

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:53 pm
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sod98 wrote (View Post):

vobbnobb wrote (View Post):

Answer me this.. Why are troops never sent to Syria when ISIS was there to begin with? How does it always get back to Iraq before troops are called in? Something is fishy here.

I don't buy it

#11: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: sod98,

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:44 am
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I don't buy it[/quote]

What don't you buy. That the US hasn't gone into Syria with boots on the ground or just more air attacks.

US were very lucky in Iraq after the lies required to attack Iraq. Support for another attack into another country without permission would be asking for trouble that even McCain would think twice about. Even if it is chasing down ISIS. It didn't help that McCains boys were once training ISIS, Al Nusra and FSA at camps in Jordan, Qatar and other Middle Eastern countries - Reuters 8mths ago. Before ISIS went for the easier target Iraq.

#12: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: Stwa,

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:54 pm
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sod98 wrote (View Post):

What don't you buy. That the US hasn't gone into Syria with boots on the ground or just more air attacks.

Fortunately, we have president Obama, who can figure this stuff out for us. Obama knows that what is left of the active army needs to stay close to the USA in case they are need there. Obama also realizes that we will be putting a lot more than just boots in Syria. Especially if he must draw form the reserves or National Guard.

Imagine what ISIS will do to some of our more obese brothers, when they get captured.

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#13: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: sod98,

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:57 pm
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Imagine what ISIS will do to some of our more obese brothers, when they get captured.

Very fortunate. That clip was different.

#14: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: Stwa,

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:21 pm
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sod98 wrote (View Post):

Very fortunate. That clip was different.

Unfortunately, the previous clip covered more ground, and enumerated more issues.

#15: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: Stwa,

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:55 pm
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johnsilver wrote (View Post):

Here is a group of people [the Kurds] used to being dealt the short straw and all they need is weapons and supplies.

The Kurds may need more than weapons and supplies, especially if this thing becomes somewhat protracted. They will need more fighters.

No matter what you think about the Kurds, they are forced to rely on their women in the present, and perhaps their children in the near future.

As I said before, the Kurds are getting thin. And me thinks the US is going to walk back their plans to re-capture Mosul.

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#16: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: sod98,

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:54 pm
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The Kurds may need more than weapons and supplies, especially if this thing becomes somewhat protracted. They will need more fighters.

The first female Kurd doing the V for victory at the end of the clip was the face of the female Kurds fighters in many propaganda pics etc. Several months ago the ISIS paraded what appeared to be her head minus the rest of her body. Arming the Kurds will only escalate the regional problems. They will go for a homeland in parts of Turkey like they have been doing for many years now. I can understand a homeland in the remains of Iraq but several neighbours including Syria and Turkey have Kurds.

#17: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: Antony_nz,

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:17 am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIQptNCCvls

In this video the prime minister of New Zealand explodes in parliament. Telling the opposition to "Get some guts"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PkHix9Km94
I highly recommend this video of tony Abbot. Normal people cant understand the pure manliness of the likes of Tony Abbot.
Its there lack of understanding that got him into trouble.

All across the world, the "good guys" have a romantic conservative leader. The UK,Canada, Australia, NZ and they are all looking at there holly grail. The president of the united states. He may be a liberal. But don't worry. They think hes the most radical president in US history. So he wont get far.

#18: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: johnsilver, Location: Florida

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:30 am
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I highly recommend this video of tony Abbot. Normal people cant understand the pure manliness of the likes of Tony Abbot.

Isn't Abbot's coalition in government teetering?

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The president of the united states. He may be a liberal. But don't worry. They think hes the most radical president in US history. So he wont get far

More radical than Jimmy Carter even.. The man responsible for the issues in the Middle east.. Iran.. Gave away the Panama Canal.. Could lay out dozens of problems he created, but you get the point. Obama has no purpose, other than create chaos.

#19: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: sod98,

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:08 am
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More radical than Jimmy Carter even.. The man responsible for the issues in the Middle east.. Iran.. Gave away the Panama Canal.. Could lay out dozens of problems he created, but you get the point. Obama has no purpose, other than create chaos.[/quote]

Does it matter which President is in power - Repub or Domcrat. The Foreign Policy stays the same - Iraq and Afghanistan etc.

Sadly Key is a lapdog for Obama and will just about do anything for him - Changing labour laws - Hobbit movie, spying of Fatboy slim - Dotcom and allowing FBI in on the raid and other things.

#20: Re: NZ sends troops to Iraq Author: HogansHeros,

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:03 pm
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johnsilver wrote (View Post):

More radical than Jimmy Carter even.. The man responsible for the issues in the Middle east.. Iran..

I would think that the Iranians would have primary responsibility for Iran

Which US president is responsible for North Korea?

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