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#1: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:02 am
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With all the threads about Russia, I thought it would make sense to open up dedicated thread all things related to Russia.

Here is a website used to track Twitter accounts suspected of being part of Russian state: "Content Tweeted by Bots and Trolls, Activity from 600 monitored Twitter accounts linked to Russian influence operations" https://dashboard.securingdemocracy.org

And Russian bots rallying behind embattled Fox News host Laura Ingram. Russia believed to have sent millions of $ to NRA backdoor to support Trump campaign...which would bypass laws to curtail foreign-backed $ for campaign financing. "According to one website that tracks Russian propaganda on Twitter in near-real time, the hashtag #istandwithlaura saw a 2800% jump in 48 hours."
http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-bots-support-fox-news-host-laura-ingraham-amid-advertiser-exodus-2018-3

Whether you love or hate Vladimir Putin he has conducted the most brilliant operation of Hybrid Cyber-Warfare in history. Putin uses a combination of old USSR era propaganda tactics mixed with disinformation tactics to help advance his agenda. Putin consistently uses Bot or Troll campaigns to stoke division and discord to help weaken democratic states.

#2: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:16 am
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Who sent the $$$ to NRA http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article195231139.html

Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of Russia’s "central bank" which is required to channel half of its profits directly into the State Treasury.

Still active FBI investigation.

#3: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:57 pm
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"It's a mafia" - Alexander Perepilichny

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/lawyer-probing-russian-corruption-says-his-balcony-fall-was-no-n780416

"Greed, money and corruption. These people are so obsessed with money, that they're ready to kill anyone who gets in the way," Browder told NBC News. "It's a mafia, it's a mafia that's running a sovereign state with nuclear weapons."

#4: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:02 pm
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Richard Engle interviews the Russian "lawyer" again, she changed her story again, this time claims to be an informant for Russian state attorney general. Interesting, I wonder what her interpretation of informant means. Very evasive choice of words....

"...emails appear to show a correspondence between Veselnitskaya and an official in Russia's state prosecutor's office coordinating a response to a case brought forward by the U.S. Department of Justice.

...newly discovered communications between Veselnitskaya and the Russian government indicate that the lawyer held a level of influence within the Kremlin, undercutting her long-held insistence that she was merely a private attorney."

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/04/27/emails-show-new-ties-between-trump-tower-russian-and-kremlin-nbc.html

#5: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: KG_Brandenburg, Location: Austin,Tx

Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 12:02 pm
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dj wrote (View Post):

Richard Engle interviews the Russian "lawyer" again, she changed her story again, this time claims to be an informant for Russian state attorney general. Interesting, I wonder what her interpretation of informant means. Very evasive choice of words....

"...emails appear to show a correspondence between Veselnitskaya and an official in Russia's state prosecutor's office coordinating a response to a case brought forward by the U.S. Department of Justice.

...newly discovered communications between Veselnitskaya and the Russian government indicate that the lawyer held a level of influence within the Kremlin, undercutting her long-held insistence that she was merely a private attorney."

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/04/27/emails-show-new-ties-between-trump-tower-russian-and-kremlin-nbc.html

she is/was a disposable tool of the kremlin...i never had any doubts when I 1st heard about the meeting in trump tower

#6: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 4:51 am
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Cohen will try to weasel his way out of this inconvenient truth. Trump's lawyer is more than a "fixer" might be conduit to accept cash via back door channel. Shell company sounds extremely shady.

"Firm Tied to Russian Oligarch Made Payments (to Trump's personal lawyer)"
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/us/politics/michael-cohen-shell-company-payments.html

"Among the previously unreported transactions were payments last year of about $500,000 from Columbus Nova, an investment firm in New York whose biggest client is a company controlled by Viktor Vekselberg, the Russian oligarch. A lawyer for Columbus Nova, in a statement on Tuesday, described the money as a consulting fee..."

Biggest weasel ever will have to slither his way out of this.

#7: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: MajorFrank,

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 5:12 pm
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As a Finn Russia isn't an abstraction to me, it's the reason why we have mandatory military service. Also WW 2 history kind of shows that we've had some quarrels with them. It'll take a really long time until Russia is as modern and humane as most European nations are.

Not sure about the Trump-collusion thing. A lot if might be smoke and mirrors, but some is true. Russia is always doing some mischief somewhere with espionage etc. So is US.

#8: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 9:04 pm
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MajorFrank wrote (View Post):

As a Finn Russia isn't an abstraction to me, it's the reason why we have mandatory military service. Also WW 2 history kind of shows that we've had some quarrels with them.

And we respect Finns for being a hard nuts. It will be very sad, if Finland joins NATO after Sweden as they preparing. Though, Russian military and FSB already treat border with Finland as border with enemy state...this can easily be seen on the border from russian side.

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It'll take a really long time until Russia is as modern and humane as most European nations are.

It will never happen. We simply will not be given such a turn, there is always a great need for enemies.

#9: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:25 am
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MajorFrank wrote (View Post):

As a Finn Russia isn't an abstraction to me, it's the reason why we have mandatory military service. Also WW 2 history kind of shows that we've had some quarrels with them. It'll take a really long time until Russia is as modern and humane as most European nations are.

Not sure about the Trump-collusion thing. A lot if might be smoke and mirrors, but some is true. Russia is always doing some mischief somewhere with espionage etc. So is US.

Yes I wonder if all the stories about USO's near Finland and Sweden are really just Russian mini spy subs. Finland has lots of experience dealing with Russian aggression even before WW2. The last time Nordic nation invaded Russia was 400 years ago?

Meanwhile Paul Mannafort incredibly was stupid enough to try to tamper with witnesses using What'sApp before his trial even starts. Now he might have to go straight to jail and won't be allowed to live in his palace with ankle bracelet monitor. Interesting Ukraine decided to stop its investigation of Mannafort after they received Arms deal with U.S.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/ukrainians-stop-investigating-manafort-after-trump-sells-them-missiles-a-win-win-for-all-involved.html

"New York Times reports that the government of Ukraine has put the brakes on its investigation into former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. Manafort allegedly received millions of dollars in cash through an “illegal off-the-books system” used by former President Viktor Yanukovych’s pro-Russian political party".

So the new Ukrainian govt wants to support Viktor Yanukovych's ally Mannfort to get a deal on some missles? While he is about to get sent to jail? Doesn't make much sense.

#10: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:18 pm
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dj wrote (View Post):

[The last time Nordic nation invaded Russia was 400 years ago?

There was so called "Seals war" between 1923 and 1932, when Norway fisherman and seal hunters flotillas invades Soviet polar coast under cover of Norway Navy, with multiple skirmishes between Norway ships and soviet ships& coastal forces.

#11: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:40 am
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You can't make this stuff up for a mafia movie. I knew something seemed fishy with the anti-tank missile deal in exchange for Ukraine stopping its investigation of Manafort.
Today now Manafort and his business partner from Ukraine (pro-Russian former Soviet) were indicted in additional criminal charges And the "lawyer" Cohen was paid $400K - $600K by Ukraine to arrange meeting with Trump?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44215656

Bank statements absolute proof money sent to Cohen's bank account from Ukraine:
"Suspicious Activity Reports filed by Mr Cohen's bank to the US Treasury showed he had received money from "Ukrainian interests". As well as Mr Cohen, the two Ukrainians said to have opened the backchannel for their president also denied the story. The senior intelligence official in Kiev said Mr Cohen had been helped by Felix Sater, a convicted former mobster who was once Trump's business partner. Mr Sater's lawyer, too, denied the allegations."

#12: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:02 am
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Oooops another billoinaire "forgot" he had business ties with Russian-tied company, then shorted his own stock. USA white house is like a banana republic and servant of Putin.

"...Ross shorted stock in Putin-tied shipping company named Navigator Holdings, after learning that reporters were preparing a story about Ross’ interests in the company. The short sale, also first revealed in the Forbes report, meant that if shares of Navigator plummeted on the news, Ross could presumably make money on his investment.

Government officials are not allowed to make trades on confidential, material information they learn because of their government job, according to the Securities and Exchange Commission. Shares of Navigator Holdings did not drop immediately after publication of the reports tying Ross to Putin’s inner circle, but they did inch down 4% over the next 11 days, when Ross closed his short position, evidently with a profit."

#13: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:03 am
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2018/06/20/senators-scold-wilbur-ross-over-ethics-issues-following-forbes-report/amp/

#14: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:03 am
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Helsinki: Putin never answered yes or no if had compromising info on Trump...wow.

#15: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:04 am
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MajorFrank wrote (View Post):

Crazy day in Helsinki. What do they say in Finland? Helsinki just became a very famous city in the world.

#16: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: Dima,

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:03 am
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Hi DJ,

I know you misses me :)

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Crazy day in Helsinki. What do they say in Finland? Helsinki just became a very famous city in the world.

obviously there are agreements on disagreements.
well you need someone covering your flank when China starts so you need us to be neutral at least...

did you know that even during the worst days of CW USSR had more units covering Chinese border than West border?
not much has changed since Wink

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but when I hear that some 1.000 US servicemen came to the Russian border to hold us (showing a flag is cool but won't help at all) I do understand that we don't hear anything about deployments in the Pacific...but where do you have all these Marines withdrawn from Afghan and Iraq?

But of course you love China:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-waging-cold-war-against-u-s-says-cia-asia-n893411

but hate Russia unders sanctions:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenroberts/2017/04/22/russia-u-s-trade-up-25-in-2017-as-trump-offers-thumbs-down-on-exxonmobil-waiver/#7c7175472657

well don't even look at the EU stats as somehow a turnover is higher in 2017 than in 2013 before scanctions.

or do they start to think?
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2018/07/17/two-star-america-is-not-ready-to-mobilize-for-large-scale-conflict/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com

but who cares Wink

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
During World War II, the statistician Abraham Wald took survivorship bias into his calculations when considering how to minimize bomber losses to enemy fire. Researchers from the Center for Naval Analyses had conducted a study of the damage done to aircraft that had returned from missions, and had recommended that armor be added to the areas that showed the most damage. Wald noted that the study only considered the aircraft that had survived their missions—the bombers that had been shot down were not present for the damage assessment. The holes in the returning aircraft, then, represented areas where a bomber could take damage and still return home safely. Wald proposed that the Navy instead reinforce the areas where the returning aircraft were unscathed, since those were the areas that, if hit, would cause the plane to be lost.[10][11][not in citation given] His work is considered seminal in the then-fledgling discipline of operational research.

Cheers,

#17: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: Dima,

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:09 am
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dj wrote (View Post):

Helsinki: Putin never answered yes or no if had compromising info on Trump...wow.

of course we did, now we rule the World Razz

#18: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:16 pm
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Dima wrote (View Post):

of course we did, now we rule the World Razz

Hope we will never...shitty job with high expense to coroner's bags.

#19: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:09 pm
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Dima wrote (View Post):

dj wrote (View Post):

Helsinki: Putin never answered yes or no if had compromising info on Trump...wow.

of course we did, now we rule the World Razz

Good to hear from you Dmitri. 1000% chance Putin has compromising info on Trump. It was hard not to notice the body language, smile ear to ear and supreme confidence in Helsinki...plus he artfully dodged the question. He must have numerous videos not only at Ritz Carlton Moscow but on many other occasions when he was there since the 80's. Putin has skillfully managed to control the narrative & demands Trump surrender Ambassador McFaul and Bill Browder.

And yes not much coverage about Chinal. The media almost ignores them completely. When they also learned to manipulate his family with business agreements made in secret and Jared is desperate to find buyer for property with huge debt. All Chinese-government subsidized "investors" are literally buying up real estate in California in all cash deals. China also has extreme leverage on Trump, likely from "loans" or other arrangements for his many family businesses with China communist slave labour.
Not only Russia is concerned about potential war with China but India also. India is emerging quickly as a major Tech power with huge population to rival China.

#20: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:01 pm
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dj wrote (View Post):

All Chinese-government subsidized "investors" are literally buying up real estate in California in all cash deals.

Was not that a stupid move? Sanctions will easily rob-out such assets, and China is already faced with them...like happened with ZTE.

#21: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:59 am
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Yes but Chinese investors have extreme leverage on US, so they are not too worried retaliatory sanctions. Plus they can exchange subsidized currency before value plummets. US owes substantial debt to China and dependent their slave labour workforce and factories. Real estate is a very dirty business, perhaps the most corrupt and easiest way to launder money. No questions asked if paid in cash, anonymous LLC's, foreign nationals & pay whatever value you want regardless of cash value.

#22: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: DELETED,

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:20 am
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How about Turkey wanting to join BRICS to make BRICTS. On their own they are regional players. But becoming friendly to Russia - purchase of the S400 system. Tolerating Syria and Iran against the Kurds. How far can you stretch the US rubber band - 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories abroad. And European members of NATO not pulling their weight or rather pulling away.

A China ignored in the South China Seas will grow like a virus unchecked. Not good reading.

#23: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: pvt_Grunt, Location: Melbourne, Australia

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:05 am
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Looks like the Russians will be busy!

#24: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:15 pm
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dj wrote (View Post):

Yes but Chinese investors have extreme leverage on US, so they are not too worried retaliatory sanctions.

Tell that to suppliers of aluminium, who had fun expecting that Trump would not dare hit 75% of US metal imports, and now cry to their governments for subsidizes & retaliations.

#25: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:28 pm
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Trump is delusional tariffs will be the magic wand to US trade issues. The company I work for also was forced to raise its prices. And now is asking to fund $12B to subsidize farmers whom ironically were some of his strongest supporters. Tariffs won't solve anything it is just a bait and switch to appease his fanatical supporters. He needs to blame himself along with Corporate America, whom could care less about US workers and complicit in China slave labour exploitation.

Meanwhile ExxonMobil sued the US Government for a meager $2M for Russia sanctions violations and Putin hired Steven Seagal to serve as their Russia lobbyist?

#26: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:45 am
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HasaniSabbah wrote (View Post):

How far can you stretch the US rubber band - 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories abroad.

Latest news are that US have miltary presence of some kind in 177 countries total. The last add-on was three military bases in Argentine till the end of year. Just SOCOM in 2017 passed operations in 140+ countries around the world. I guess that average US citizen will be unable to find 2/3 of them on the globe.

dj wrote (View Post):

Tariffs won't solve anything it is just a bait and switch to appease his fanatical supporters.

There are some possibility that Trump actions will succeseed. Preparation for big war, for example.

#27: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: pvt_Grunt, Location: Melbourne, Australia

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:57 am
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dj wrote (View Post):

Trump is delusional tariffs will be the magic wand to US trade issues. The company I work for also was forced to raise its prices. And now is asking to fund $12B to subsidize farmers whom ironically were some of his strongest supporters. Tariffs won't solve anything it is just a bait and switch to appease his fanatical supporters. He needs to blame himself along with Corporate America, whom could care less about US workers and complicit in China slave labour exploitation.

Meanwhile ExxonMobil sued the US Government for a meager $2M for Russia sanctions violations and Putin hired Steven Seagal to serve as their Russia lobbyist?

Tariffs are a valid strategy for trade. They can protect local business from imports, like we had for decades here in Australia. Just dont kid yourself that you can have high tariffs AND cheap imports at the same time, like some people seem to think. Countries with high tariffs are nearly always poorer than countries with free trade - Tariff countries

Your (US) problem is that you elected a salesman, even worse a real estate salesman! Nothing he says or does is based on anything other than self interest, but people still kid themselves that he is "On their side" Rolling Eyes

#28: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:11 pm
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Yes real estate is the most corrupt industry in USA and due to the sub-prime mortgage meltdown, it almost created a global economic depression. For the same reasons, extremely corrupt shady practices. It's a money laundering factory. Lender sales reps did not even bother to verify earnings, half of them were on cocaine, using fraudulent values to determine "market value", allowing anonymous LLC's to buy whatever they want at whatever prices they wanted.

And it is known that Trump Tower condo's were routinely "sold" to Russians or LLC's. Europe was smart to ban anonymous LLC purchases. USA govt is content to let our nation erode to banana republic status. Nothing United about these States just a bunch of rich dudes trying line their pockets with as much $ as possible. Now is a good time to dump stocks or sell off assets. Everyone knows our fake bubble is about to burst again near the 10 year anniversary when our banking system nearly folded.

#29: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: DELETED,

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:27 pm
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Nothing United about these States just a bunch of rich dudes trying line their pockets with as much $ as possible.

That is the world over. No matter what country or even what time period, it's always been the same throughout history.

#30: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:18 pm
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Yes but USA under President Ted Roosevelt and many others fought the corruption but those days are long gone. Russia too I hoped under Yeltsin would reform their government but no chance of that happening under Putin.

Something clearly struck a nerve with Putin to demand surrender of former Ambassador along with Bill Browder. Why Browder? Because he exposed corruption in Russia. Craig Unger's new book "The Untold Story of Donald Trump and the Russian Mafia" looks like a must read. One of his prime sources are these real estate transactions.

"..Putin wanted to keep tabs on the billionaires — some of them former mobsters — who had made their post-Cold War fortunes on the backs of industries once owned by the state. The oligarchs, as well as other new-moneyed elites, were stashing their money in foreign real estate, including Trump properties"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/is-there-a-case-for-trump-putin-collaboration-years-before-the-campaign/2018/08/16/00578f1e-9440-11e8-80e1-00e80e1fdf43_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e8be7f0a2864

#31: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: DELETED,

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:53 am
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"..Putin wanted to keep tabs on the billionaires — some of them former mobsters — who had made their post-Cold War fortunes on the backs of industries once owned by the state. The oligarchs, as well as other new-moneyed elites, were stashing their money in foreign real estate, including Trump properties"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/is-there-a-case-for-trump-putin-collaboration-years-before-the-campaign/2018/08/16/00578f1e-9440-11e8-80e1-00e80e1fdf43_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e8be7f0a2864[/quote]

I did read that Putin wanted those who profited from the sale of fmr USSR assets to contribute to the new Russia or face consequences. Some of which are still in jail today................wish we could do the same.

That link is very revealing. Not sure what Russia hopes to gain from this though. Everything today that goes wrong is being blamed upon Russia. Recently on CNN a US Congressman accused Russia of being behind recent riots in the US as are some media. Trump, I'm surprised hasn't jumped on the same - the King of deflecting and blame. I can understand why some still believe Russia was / is behind Trump. But who in US politics hasn't had some level of involvement - Clinton's over the mining contracts. Everyone seem to be chasing shadows and not much work being done as a result.

#32: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:57 pm
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HasaniSabbah wrote (View Post):

Not sure what Russia hopes to gain from this though.

Most of text on link is about late 80-s (when Russians in US was mostly 'refugees' from Soviet state - unlikely acted in lieu of USSR government, because organized crime already posed a serious threat to Soviet regime and regime was in bloody fight with it) and early 90-s (there was no Russia at all as kind of centralized will until 1995, when Yeltsin, faced with badly Chechnya war and re-elections coming, consolidated power and brought "Siloviks' like Putin`s 'Godfather' Primakov closer to him).

For now, according to 'investigations' available, Russia spent some 100K USD to make Trump a president. Actually, from 2004 to 2014 Russia spent some 200MIL USD to lobbyism and PR in US with little to no effect (as 2014 proved well). Most of that money was probably just stolen. I think that this 100K was just another attempt to do something, hopeless from start, which, unfortunately, become a gold shot. Or, may be, was found as very effective ground for just another campaign against Russia, cause money comes to SMN`s, not to specific persons in D.C. who would come to the line of fire otherwise.

#33: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: DELETED,

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:56 am
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I have no doubt Russia had a vested interest in seeing a potentially Russian friendly US Govt / President being elected. That's only natural. No doubt they probably backed this up financially through media and politicians. But that is no different to the 80 plus foreign elections that the US has involved it's self in over a recent period. Or for that matter the English, the French and other European countries. China is doing the same in the Pacific but buying UN votes from Pacific Island cash strapped Islands. Financing friendly pro Chinese politicians into power in elections.

It is a bit rich to accuse one country of something that your country is actually involved in as well elsewhere around the world.

But Trump is certainly a skitso or maybe a very bad liar.

#34: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:57 am
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JFFulcrum wrote (View Post):

HasaniSabbah wrote (View Post):

Not sure what Russia hopes to gain from this though.

Yes...interesting points. Russian mafia factions had already permeated USSR political system especially in the 80's. Those were some bloody times when Yeltsin took over in early 90's. I was a student in college actually studying Russian history at his time. Professor showed us the video tape from Leningrad with anarchists marching in the streets. The Russian mafia later battled it out for control, I saw some video footage of that too.

The opposition candidate that Putin put in jail kept trying to expose the corruption with his drone camera over the chateau palace of Putin's assistant president.
And question for you... who decides which oligarch controls an industry? Seems like money was stolen yes. Something really enraged Putin about what Browder found. I was shocked when in Helsinki, Putin demanded Trump surrender Browder.

#35: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:49 am
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Something really enraged Putin about what Browder found

Browder was part of the system - corrupt system of draining out money from Russia. Of course, when the control of system was seized by Kremlin (from foreign powers like Soros), Browder became an unnecessary unit. Instead of gaining compensation and withdraw, he goes to politics, put his employees to danger, lost, fled, now pose himself as 'fighter against corruption'.

#36: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: DELETED,

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:22 am
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JFFulcrum wrote (View Post):

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Something really enraged Putin about what Browder found

Yes sir, I believe you are correct. I read this article earlier and found it again - https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/02/01/meet-corrupt-billionaire-who-has-brought-about-new-cold-war.html

#37: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:07 am
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Unger's book is a must read. Now that Trump CFO has flipped and grant immunity from prosecution, they will have full access to his books & tax returns. Unger said $1T had been looted from Russia and moved to foreign assets. I am sure China has done that as well, probably even twice that amount laundered into real estate assets. They can form anonymous LLC's or shell companies and pay in all cash.

#38: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:45 am
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Moscow writer Masha Gessen describes Putin in her new book: "the godfather of a mafia clan"

And Putin's net worth estimated at $40B. Confirms what others have said about mafia connections to Putin. Does the mafia control Putin or does Putin control them? More like a partnership. This is why Trump gets along so well with Putin, like they are both mafia family bosses.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/9100388/Vladimir-Putin-the-godfather-of-a-mafia-clan.html

#39: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:51 pm
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dj wrote (View Post):

Moscow writer Masha Gessen describes Putin in her new book: "the godfather of a mafia clan"

http://web.archive.org/web/20130310193355/http://www.usgbroadcasts.com/bbgwatch/2013/01/03/business-class-plane-travel-and-housing-allowances-for-korns-favorites-at-rferl-raise-questions/

Trust to such people, learn more truth from them...

#40: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:05 pm
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Still waiting for Mueller investigation and most importantly an audit of the financial transactions. Putin made an error in judgement showing his cards by demanding Trump surrender former U.S. Ambassador to Russia whom was critical of his regime and especially when he demanded surrender of Bill Browder. He does not even live in U.S. any longer.

#41: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:07 pm
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Thanks Russia. Ironically US has to rely on Russian media to inform people what our President is doing. White House refuses to even tell our own media that Trump is planning to meet with Vladimir in Paris. Yet Russian media had no issues letting the rest of the world know. Ooops I guess Trump could not keep that quiet thanks to Russia. I wonder if Putin did that on purpose to show off his power. Trump I guess doesn't want to do another press conference again like in Helsinki.

#42: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:36 am
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Nothing will be happen in Paris. There are no simple ways to solve current disagreements about Syria, Ukraine, Europe gas market, Iran, North Korea and so on. For my side of view, Putin should meet not with Trump, but with Talibs, Yemeni Hussites, Kim Jong Un, btw, meets with California and Texas Separatists will be great too. May be for last two he should give some Kalashnikovs and AT missiles, in help to their fight for Freedom.

#43: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:06 pm
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Well no need to arm separatists in USA, only 4% of world population and nearly 50% of world small arms supply. We have enough guns for each of the 300M population x2. Not sure Russia or China really wants to bother with that. We can not even police our own people over 300 mass shootings this year alone. Russia set-up embassy for CA separatists. lol
California is not Ukraine. Left wing fanatics want to break away from Trump dictatorship. But they won't have to because his party lost control of Congress. Texas is the opposite...right wing extremists in that state will go ape shit if Bernies Sanunders wins in 2020.

#44: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:12 pm
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USA media doesn't even bother to tell us Trump met with Putin in Paris today. Jesus Christ. Well at least Russia told us (again):

https://in.reuters.com/article/usa-russia-putin-trump-meeting/putin-says-he-talked-to-trump-in-paris-russian-news-agencies-idINKCN1NG0KQ

#45: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:48 am
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dj wrote (View Post):

Well no need to arm separatists in USA

That part was sarcasm. Although, in general build-up relations with CA and TX secessionists (using semi-official persons, like Prigozhin) should be an option for Russia, both as revenge for Ichkeria embassy in US during Chechen wars, and to make pain to some bitches in DC...may be some of them will even die from heart attack.

BTW, thanks to Russian Hackers for voting on midterm elections.

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#46: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:44 pm
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Maria Butina pled guilty. Incredible success, lightly trained by Torshin as contractor not even a real agent. Yet used her charm like a million women in history before her to seduce gullible dumb old men into elite circles within NRA and Republican Party.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fp1TioaLcg

Got Trump to say he would remove sanctions. What are the odds he would call on her or even have that opinion? I give Russia credit though. Can't imagine if she was regular Intelligence agent instead of contractor what she could have accomplished.

Now we hear reports allegedly Russia is massing forces near Ukraine border. The gasoline and supplies to station all those forces is not free. Wonder what is going on? And 2 white swan bombers landed in Venezuela as show off force.

Putin wants to use external threats or poke a fight with little Ukraine as distraction. USA does that too but so far Trump has not been war hawk.

#47: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: DELETED,

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:14 am
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dj - Very interesting story this one. I wonder what or who put the US Intel Community onto her. This story in it's fullest will be an interesting read.

Ukraine is a mess. Did you see the latest pics. What were the Ukrainians thinking.

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#48: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: DELETED,

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#49: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:57 pm
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/alabama-senate-roy-jones-russia.html

I have no words... Will wait for 'small experiment' explanation of Skripal`s case.

#50: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:08 am
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Interesting...well did you realize Russians were amongst some of the original investors in Facebook? I new that Putin sent Dmitri to meet with Zuckerberg at least a few times. But when I read this article I was surprised to see Russians helped fund. So U.S. media does not even bother to tell people Facebook has billions of $ in stock value owned by Russians.

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/02/technology/zuckerberg-meets-with-medvedev-in-key-market.html

"Russia is also home to two large and early Facebook investors, Alisher Usmanov, a steel tycoon, and Yuri Milner, an expert on monetizing social network traffic in emerging markets. The two partly cashed out in the initial public offering of Facebook stock earlier this year but still own billions of dollars’ worth of shares."

#51: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:32 am
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JFFulcrum wrote (View Post):

Will wait for 'small experiment' explanation of Skripal`s case.

It's the $$$...looks like someone bribed Skirpal, cost him his life. Not smart to cross Boss Vlad. But Vlad got his revenge big-time vs the West. 14 Americans took the $$$ or whatever other goodies were offered. Including Jill Stein. Nobody even bothers to mention she took the $50K also to appear at RT dinner. Maybe that is 15 Americans that took $$$. Ritz Carlton Moscow had videos of westerners with hookers as leverage too. Oldest trick in the book in the spy biz.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/09/world/europe/sergei-skripal-russian-spy-poisoning.html

#52: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: DELETED,

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:17 am
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dj wrote (View Post):

Interesting...well did you realize Russians were amongst some of the original investors in Facebook? I new that Putin sent Dmitri to meet with Zuckerberg at least a few times. But when I read this article I was surprised to see Russians helped fund. So U.S. media does not even bother to tell people Facebook has billions of $ in stock value owned by Russians.

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/02/technology/zuckerberg-meets-with-medvedev-in-key-market.html

"Russia is also home to two large and early Facebook investors, Alisher Usmanov, a steel tycoon, and Yuri Milner, an expert on monetizing social network traffic in emerging markets. The two partly cashed out in the initial public offering of Facebook stock earlier this year but still own billions of dollars’ worth of shares."

DJ In fairness though NGO's aren't what they make themselves out to be. In fact they often are the opposite, yet don't mention their links ( funding ) from US Govt. Both have influence upon Govt's. Facebook is just another legal way the US spies upon people, influence elections through social media while gathering users metadata. This is all nothing new I'm sure. Very true about the honey trap hookers. But everyone uses that trick too. Israel used it successfully.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/12/ziad-ahmad-itani-fell-mossad-honey-trap-171201064918749.html

The same old trick used on the same old weakness - sex.

#53: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: DELETED,

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:20 pm
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What's Trump doing playing straight into Syria, Russia. Iran and Turkeys hands. The withdrawal from Syria of US forces has already resulted in the Kurds surrendering one city to prevent the Turks attacking it - Manbij. It sounds as though the Kurds feel betrayed by the US and ready to sign over to the Syrian Govt. Giving up any hope of a Kurdish state...............again. Allies aren't easy to find in the Middle East but dumping allies sends a clear message for others.

Afghanistan possibly next. The Taliban's demands were for US withdrawal is an indicator of their success after a stalemate period.

DJ - maybe you could make another post - What is going on with USA ? Has Trump gone rogue or was he already rogue just controlled by some until now.

#54: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:19 pm
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Well nobody will know precisely what the "real" intentions were about Trump at this point. Yes it reinforced negative stereotypes about U.S. hanging Allies out to dry. Investigations need to Audit all financial records including wire transfers, "loans", Trump D.C. Hotel and real estate. Already the lawyer Cohen admitted to setting up shell company to hide the hooker....errr....porn star pay-offs. In reality use of shell companies, anonymous LLC's and dirty banks like BCCI has been done for decades by like-minded corrupt Business and Government leaders.

It is definitely not normal for U.S. Defense Secretary (hand-picked by the President) to resign in protest. Clearly this was related to Syria withdraw. Then he sought petty reprisal to force him to leave immediately vs smooth transition. Instead the replacement has zero experience, just a businessman worked at Defense industry supplier.

Honestly I feel like USA has drifted into Banana Republic as many others in his cabinet had to resign over looming investigations. Putin is looking more and more like a genius but my opinion is that Putin ironically did us a favor. The corruption had always been there he just exposed it.

#55: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: DELETED,

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:02 pm
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DJ - As long as that corruption is cut out somehow. Otherwise all of this is for nothing but the corrupt become more greedy and powerful. It is a worry reading about other potential Hollywood candidates for the next US election. Who are the real people behind Trump ?

#56: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:57 am
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So it begins...evidence of money laundering and tax fraud. Funds conveniently hidden in shell companies to purchase real estate in NY. Just the tip of the iceberg. So the question is...did Putin know about the tax evasion ?
I thought this Russian "lawyer" worked for the Russian government. Most corrupt dirty business in the world, Real Estate. Not only Russians but increasingly China is doing this in U.S. American real estate business is hopelessly corrupt they would never dare let auditors look at the books to see who the anonymous buyers or shell companies are. China I believe is stealth-subsidizing and dumping their manipulated $ into real estate.

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/08/683238650/russian-lawyer-at-trump-tower-meeting-charged-in-connection-to-money-laundering-

#57: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:24 pm
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dj wrote (View Post):

So it begins...evidence of money laundering and tax fraud. Funds conveniently hidden in shell companies to purchase real estate in NY. Just the tip of the iceberg.
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/08/683238650/russian-lawyer-at-trump-tower-meeting-charged-in-connection-to-money-laundering-

BTW, such activities are greatly hurt by gov. shutdown, may be shutdown was a last measure for Trump to stop 'investigation'.

#58: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:28 am
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Yes absolutely that is top of mind, if he is doing shutdown as Scorched Earth desperation tactics. Pretty smart, stall for time while using Wall as distraction and excuse.

Explanation or lack thereof also telling to remove sanctions for oligarch Oleg Deripaska. I guess Mnuchin could think of good excuse so they changed their minds instead of providing justification. What a weasel.

BTW - interesting they said the American immigrant whom served as interpreter for U.S. State Dept was asked to surrender the notes from meetings. And Private 1:1 meetings between Trump / Putin at G20 and other meeting were kept quiet. Interested to know from the interpreter what they wanted to keep secret.

What do they say in Russia lately? It was only due to Russian media we got Oval Office photos or notification of secret G20 meetings. Jesus Christ our own news media can not even tell us we have to keep relying on Russian state media. Thanks Russia good job.

#59: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: DELETED,

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:15 pm
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Without sounding too skeptical, when is the hard uncompromising evidence of Trump / Russia collusion going to happen. So far the only convictions are vaguely related to this massive investigation. The cost to the tax payer may have been better off on a wall, fence or barrier. To an outsider the wall business alone looks like the Dem's are talking sour grapes still. They once backed a wall under Obama. What a mess and the situation surely can't get any worse before getting better.

Then that Buzzfeed rubbish on Trump. Surely the US can shut down pure propaganda sites like this, that publish before investigating.

#60: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:51 am
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Active criminal investigation can not show their cards - many audio recordings, texts, video evidence, counter intelligence. Lawyer will testify in public next month on his way to jail. Just wait until tapes released, that's what ended Nixon.

#61: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: DELETED,

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:50 am
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dj wrote (View Post):

Active criminal investigation can not show their cards - many audio recordings, texts, video evidence, counter intelligence. Lawyer will testify in public next month on his way to jail. Just wait until tapes released, that's what ended Nixon.

Fair call. What about the lockout over the funding of the wall. Who is going to blink first ?

#62: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:56 am
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Good timing, 1 day later we have the evidence. Putin's opposition party already posted the actual audio recordings from Oligarch's luxury boat + photos + video. Thanks to Russia's opposition leader Alex Navalny, the evidence is already posted online. They can keep Anastasia Vashukevich in jail but too late, makes no difference now.

Not only that but they posted video evidence of Trump gesturing at Putin at international meeting asking for 1:1 with fist pump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/model-who-claimed-us-russian-collusion-tape-arrested-in-moscow-on-prostitution-charges/2019/01/17/97a65db2-1a66-11e9-b8e6-567190c2fd08_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.03bda7fbb444

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/07/20/trump-appears-to-gesture-at-putin-orig-tc.cnn

#63: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:16 am
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Interesting ththe arrest video at Russian airport is by FSB Police. Faces are shown in other countries but sites in Russia show FSB agents with faces blurred.

Not the most reliable source, but the photos with Putin backed oligarch are clear. Same man whom was in contact with Mannafort exchanging internal poll data. Could not find the audio recordings uploaded by Navalny, assuming the state censored it. Nobody has done any translation from Russian to English yet?

#64: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: DELETED,

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:02 am
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Very Interesting but it does look she has either cut a deal or there really was nothing in the first place - https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/model-who-claimed-us-russia-collusion-evidence-freed-from-jail-in-moscow/2019/01/22/0312ff62-1e48-11e9-a759-2b8541bbbe20_story.html?utm_term=.f83316bb1f4f

Also I don't think she would make a very reliable witness with her background and history. Thanks again another interesting saga unfolds involving Trump.

#65: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:33 am
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Notice how the Russian FSB agents have to carry her and use a wheelchair. Looks like they injected her with sedative as she can not stand or walk. Also still no specifics on the audio tapes that were uploaded. Nor was there any comment on who the 3 un-named Americans were that met with Oleg in her presence. How fitting that the first specific evidence revealed to world was done by the Russians themselves and one of the many girlfriends of thug Oleg. The American intelligence I am sure have a lot too they are not sharing yet. Remember that one of the primary sources that alerted Americans to this shady activity was British Intelligence. And other Western allies also were monitoring.

Also there is some anonymous state-owned company fighting American courts subpoena request and trying to hide identity. Unprecedented - they closed the whole floor of courtroom allowing no access to press.

#66: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:04 pm
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Yesterday FBI raided Roger Stone's house and confiscated evidence.

Now today NY Times posted article citied over 100 contacts between Trump associates and Russians. Take a look at this:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/01/26/us/politics/trump-contacts-russians-wikileaks.html

#67: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: MajorFrank,

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:04 pm
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dj,

Yes, I saw that footage of the raid into Roger Stone's place. Such a strange and just weird regime. Very Happy

When I think of the US republicans, I'm still kind of remembering the 'neocons' who started, among others, the disastrous war in Iraq. Now it's almost like nobody even remembers the Iraq war although it cost hundreds of thousands of lives and is pretty much still continuing with the Isis-situation etc. It's almost as if the whole of the Trump regime is to create a diversion from the real big issues, like Iraq war repercussions, big social issues like UHC in USA, etc.

#68: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:05 pm
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MajorFrank wrote (View Post):

It's almost as if the whole of the Trump regime is to create a diversion from the real big issues, like Iraq war repercussions, big social issues like UHC in USA, etc.

Ain`t his regime actually trying to solve big issues (by ways like withdrew troops from Middle-East and let so called 'allies' to deal within their sandboxes themselves) or get social cost lower by fighting illegal immigration? But his hands are tied by Dems and even many Gops, with threats to impeach or even crash the state.

#69: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:03 pm
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Finally: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pompeo-expected-to-announce-us-intent-to-withdraw-from-inf-nuclear-treaty/ar-BBT1DLD

#70: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj,

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:32 pm
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Subpoena pending for immigrant Russian interpreter whom was the only "witness" to secretive 1 on 1 meetings with Putin. Later in Buenos Aires and likely in Paris, Trump only spoke with Putin with only Russian government interpreter present. Can not find any information on where Marina is from. I assume she was born in Russia and immigrated to U.S.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/us/politics/trump-putin-interpreter.html

And the Trump admin lied and fed misinformation about Buenos Aires meeting after gesture for meeting was caught on video...later they changed their story to pretend they did not lie:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-has-concealed-details-of-his-face-to-face-encounters-with-putin-from-senior-officials-in-administration/2019/01/12/65f6686c-1434-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.55879eabd234

#71: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: DELETED,

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:57 pm
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And the Trump admin lied and fed misinformation about Buenos Aires meeting after gesture for meeting was caught on video...later they changed their story to pretend they did not lie

DJ - I just don't see an end game for all of these Investigations etc. Well not until Trump is out of office will all this stop. But it will start again on the likes of Sanders if he is fortunate enough at the next elections to be President. From afar all this looks like a media beat up to remove candidates via the media. Really nothing of substance to hold Trump to account. Lets face it, every Administration has it's skeletons if you open enough doors to look for them. Media has printed lots of half truths over the last few years on many topics from US politics and domestic conflicts to foreign affairs. And that's being nice saying half truths - smear campaign by Trump opposition.

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