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#1: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:02 am
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With all the threads about Russia, I thought it would make sense to open up dedicated thread all things related to Russia.

Here is a website used to track Twitter accounts suspected of being part of Russian state: "Content Tweeted by Bots and Trolls, Activity from 600 monitored Twitter accounts linked to Russian influence operations"  https://dashboard.securingdemocracy.org

And Russian bots rallying behind embattled Fox News host Laura Ingram.  Russia believed to have sent millions of $ to NRA backdoor to support Trump campaign...which would bypass laws to curtail foreign-backed $ for campaign financing. "According to one website that tracks Russian propaganda on Twitter in near-real time, the hashtag #istandwithlaura saw a 2800% jump in 48 hours."
http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-bots-support-fox-news-host-laura-ingraham-amid-advertiser-exodus-2018-3
 
Whether you love or hate Vladimir Putin he has conducted the most brilliant operation of Hybrid Cyber-Warfare in history.  Putin uses a combination of old USSR era propaganda tactics mixed with disinformation tactics to help advance his agenda.  Putin consistently uses Bot or Troll campaigns to stoke division and discord to help weaken democratic states.

#2: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:16 am
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Who sent the $$$ to NRA  http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article195231139.html
 
Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of Russia’s "central bank" which is required to channel half of its profits directly into the State Treasury.  

Still active FBI investigation.

#3: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:57 pm
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"It's a mafia" - Alexander Perepilichny

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/lawyer-probing-russian-corruption-says-his-balcony-fall-was-no-n780416
 
"Greed, money and corruption. These people are so obsessed with money, that they're ready to kill anyone who gets in the way," Browder told NBC News. "It's a mafia, it's a mafia that's running a sovereign state with nuclear weapons."

#4: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:02 pm
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Richard Engle interviews the Russian "lawyer" again, she changed her story again, this time claims to be an informant for Russian state attorney general.  Interesting, I wonder what her interpretation of informant means.  Very evasive choice of words....

"...emails appear to show a correspondence between Veselnitskaya and an official in Russia's state prosecutor's office coordinating a response to a case brought forward by the U.S. Department of Justice.

...newly discovered communications between Veselnitskaya and the Russian government indicate that the lawyer held a level of influence within the Kremlin, undercutting her long-held insistence that she was merely a private attorney."


https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/04/27/emails-show-new-ties-between-trump-tower-russian-and-kremlin-nbc.html

#5: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: KG_BrandenburgLocation: Austin,Tx PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 12:02 pm
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dj wrote (View Post):
Richard Engle interviews the Russian "lawyer" again, she changed her story again, this time claims to be an informant for Russian state attorney general.  Interesting, I wonder what her interpretation of informant means.  Very evasive choice of words....

"...emails appear to show a correspondence between Veselnitskaya and an official in Russia's state prosecutor's office coordinating a response to a case brought forward by the U.S. Department of Justice.

...newly discovered communications between Veselnitskaya and the Russian government indicate that the lawyer held a level of influence within the Kremlin, undercutting her long-held insistence that she was merely a private attorney."


https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/04/27/emails-show-new-ties-between-trump-tower-russian-and-kremlin-nbc.html  


she is/was a disposable tool of the kremlin...i never had any doubts when I 1st heard about the meeting in trump tower

#6: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 4:51 am
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Cohen will try to weasel his way out of this inconvenient truth.  Trump's lawyer is more than a "fixer" might be conduit to accept cash via back door channel.  Shell company sounds extremely shady.

"Firm Tied to Russian Oligarch Made Payments (to Trump's personal lawyer)"
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/us/politics/michael-cohen-shell-company-payments.html
 
"Among the previously unreported transactions were payments last year of about $500,000 from Columbus Nova, an investment firm in New York whose biggest client is a company controlled by Viktor Vekselberg, the Russian oligarch. A lawyer for Columbus Nova, in a statement on Tuesday, described the money as a consulting fee..."

Biggest weasel ever will have to slither his way out of this.

#7: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: MajorFrank PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 5:12 pm
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As a Finn Russia isn't an abstraction to me, it's the reason why we have mandatory military service. Also WW 2 history kind of shows that we've had some quarrels with them. It'll take a really long time until Russia is as modern and humane as most European nations are.

Not sure about the Trump-collusion thing. A lot if might be smoke and mirrors, but some is true. Russia is always doing some mischief somewhere with espionage etc. So is US.

#8: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 9:04 pm
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MajorFrank wrote (View Post):
As a Finn Russia isn't an abstraction to me, it's the reason why we have mandatory military service. Also WW 2 history kind of shows that we've had some quarrels with them.

And we respect Finns for being a hard nuts. It will be very sad, if Finland joins NATO after Sweden as they preparing. Though, Russian military and FSB already treat border with Finland as border with enemy state...this can easily be seen on the border from russian side.


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It'll take a really long time until Russia is as modern and humane as most European nations are.

It will never happen. We simply will not be given such a turn, there is always a great need for enemies.

#9: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:25 am
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MajorFrank wrote (View Post):
As a Finn Russia isn't an abstraction to me, it's the reason why we have mandatory military service. Also WW 2 history kind of shows that we've had some quarrels with them. It'll take a really long time until Russia is as modern and humane as most European nations are.

Not sure about the Trump-collusion thing. A lot if might be smoke and mirrors, but some is true. Russia is always doing some mischief somewhere with espionage etc. So is US.


Yes I wonder if all the stories about USO's near Finland and Sweden are really just Russian mini spy subs.  Finland has lots of experience dealing with Russian aggression even before WW2. The last time Nordic nation invaded Russia was 400 years ago?

Meanwhile Paul Mannafort incredibly was stupid enough to try to tamper with witnesses using What'sApp before his trial even starts.  Now he might have to go straight to jail and won't be allowed to live in his palace with ankle bracelet monitor.  Interesting Ukraine decided to stop its investigation of Mannafort after they received Arms deal with U.S.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/ukrainians-stop-investigating-manafort-after-trump-sells-them-missiles-a-win-win-for-all-involved.html
 
"New York Times reports that the government of Ukraine has put the brakes on its investigation into former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. Manafort allegedly received millions of dollars in cash through an “illegal off-the-books system” used by former President Viktor Yanukovych’s pro-Russian political party".

So the new Ukrainian govt wants to support Viktor Yanukovych's ally Mannfort to get a deal on some missles?  While he is about to get sent to jail?  Doesn't make much sense.

#10: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:18 pm
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dj wrote (View Post):
[The last time Nordic nation invaded Russia was 400 years ago?

There was so called "Seals war" between 1923 and 1932, when Norway fisherman and seal hunters flotillas invades Soviet polar coast under cover of Norway Navy, with multiple skirmishes between Norway ships and soviet ships& coastal forces.

#11: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:40 am
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You can't make this stuff up for a mafia movie.  I knew something seemed fishy with the anti-tank missile deal in exchange for Ukraine stopping its investigation of Manafort.
Today now Manafort and his business partner from Ukraine (pro-Russian former Soviet) were indicted in additional criminal charges  And the "lawyer" Cohen was paid $400K - $600K by Ukraine to arrange meeting with Trump?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44215656

Bank statements absolute proof money sent to Cohen's bank account from Ukraine:
"Suspicious Activity Reports filed by Mr Cohen's bank to the US Treasury showed he had received money from "Ukrainian interests".  As well as Mr Cohen, the two Ukrainians said to have opened the backchannel for their president also denied the story.  The senior intelligence official in Kiev said Mr Cohen had been helped by Felix Sater, a convicted former mobster who was once Trump's business partner. Mr Sater's lawyer, too, denied the allegations."

#12: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:02 am
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Oooops another billoinaire "forgot" he had business ties with Russian-tied company, then shorted his own stock.  USA white house is like a banana republic and servant of Putin.

"...Ross shorted stock in Putin-tied shipping company named Navigator Holdings, after learning that reporters were preparing a story about Ross’ interests in the company. The short sale, also first revealed in the Forbes report, meant that if shares of Navigator plummeted on the news, Ross could presumably make money on his investment.

Government officials are not allowed to make trades on confidential, material information they learn because of their government job, according to the Securities and Exchange Commission. Shares of Navigator Holdings did not drop  immediately after publication of the reports tying Ross to Putin’s inner circle, but they did inch down 4% over the next 11 days, when Ross closed his short position, evidently with a profit."

#13: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:03 am
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2018/06/20/senators-scold-wilbur-ross-over-ethics-issues-following-forbes-report/amp/

#14: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:03 am
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Helsinki: Putin never answered yes or no if had compromising info on Trump...wow.

#15: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:04 am
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MajorFrank wrote (View Post):
As a Finn Russia isn't an abstraction to me, it's the reason why we have mandatory military service. Also WW 2 history kind of shows that we've had some quarrels with them. It'll take a really long time until Russia is as modern and humane as most European nations are.

Not sure about the Trump-collusion thing. A lot if might be smoke and mirrors, but some is true. Russia is always doing some mischief somewhere with espionage etc. So is US.


Crazy day in Helsinki. What do they say in Finland?  Helsinki just became a very famous city in the world.

#16: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: Dima PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:03 am
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Hi DJ,

I know you misses me :)

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Crazy day in Helsinki. What do they say in Finland?  Helsinki just became a very famous city in the world.

obviously there are agreements on disagreements.
well you need someone covering your flank when China starts so you need us to be neutral at least...

did you know that even during the worst days of CW USSR had more units covering Chinese border than West border?
not much has changed since Wink.

but when I hear that some 1.000 US servicemen came to the Russian border to hold us (showing a flag is cool but won't help at all) I do understand that we don't hear anything about deployments in the Pacific...but where do you have all these Marines withdrawn from Afghan and Iraq?

But of course you love China:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-waging-cold-war-against-u-s-says-cia-asia-n893411  

but hate Russia unders sanctions:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenroberts/2017/04/22/russia-u-s-trade-up-25-in-2017-as-trump-offers-thumbs-down-on-exxonmobil-waiver/#7c7175472657
 
well don't even look at the EU stats as somehow a turnover is higher in 2017 than in 2013 before scanctions.

or do they start to think?
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2018/07/17/two-star-america-is-not-ready-to-mobilize-for-large-scale-conflict/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com
 
but who cares Wink
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
During World War II, the statistician Abraham Wald took survivorship bias into his calculations when considering how to minimize bomber losses to enemy fire. Researchers from the Center for Naval Analyses had conducted a study of the damage done to aircraft that had returned from missions, and had recommended that armor be added to the areas that showed the most damage. Wald noted that the study only considered the aircraft that had survived their missions—the bombers that had been shot down were not present for the damage assessment. The holes in the returning aircraft, then, represented areas where a bomber could take damage and still return home safely. Wald proposed that the Navy instead reinforce the areas where the returning aircraft were unscathed, since those were the areas that, if hit, would cause the plane to be lost.[10][11][not in citation given] His work is considered seminal in the then-fledgling discipline of operational research.

Cheers,

#17: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: Dima PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:09 am
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dj wrote (View Post):
Helsinki: Putin never answered yes or no if had compromising info on Trump...wow.

of course we did, now we rule the World Razz

#18: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:16 pm
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Dima wrote (View Post):
of course we did, now we rule the World Razz


Hope we will never...shitty job with high expense to coroner's bags.

#19: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: dj PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:09 pm
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Dima wrote (View Post):
dj wrote (View Post):
Helsinki: Putin never answered yes or no if had compromising info on Trump...wow.

of course we did, now we rule the World Razz


Good to hear from you Dmitri.  1000% chance Putin has compromising info on Trump.  It was hard not to notice the body language, smile ear to ear and supreme confidence in Helsinki...plus he artfully dodged the question.  He must have numerous videos not only at Ritz Carlton Moscow but on many other occasions when he was there since the 80's.  Putin has skillfully managed to control the narrative & demands Trump surrender Ambassador McFaul and Bill Browder.

And yes not much coverage about Chinal.  The media almost ignores them completely.  When they also learned to manipulate his family with business agreements made in secret and Jared is desperate to find buyer for property with huge debt.  All Chinese-government subsidized "investors" are literally buying up real estate in California in all cash deals.  China also has extreme leverage on Trump, likely from "loans" or other arrangements for his many family businesses with China communist slave labour.
Not only Russia is concerned about potential war with China but India also.  India is emerging quickly as a major Tech power with huge population to rival China.

#20: Re: What is going on with Russia? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:01 pm
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dj wrote (View Post):
All Chinese-government subsidized "investors" are literally buying up real estate in California in all cash deals.


Was not that a stupid move? Sanctions will easily rob-out such assets, and China is already faced with them...like happened with ZTE.



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