#1: OZ WW1 VC Soldiers remains found in Russia Author: Bungarra, Location: Murchison region, West AustraliaPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:07 pm After being at Gallipolli and the horrors of the western front some men seemed to have thrived on the Dangers
Sam Pearse seems to be one such man, volenteering with some 120 other Australians to fight with the white Russians, he paid the ultimate price
#2: Re: OZ WW1 VC Soldiers remains found in Russia Author: JFFulcrum, Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:02 pm Interesting, the attack of 29 august 1919 near Emtsa (where Sam Pearse met his fate) was claimed by Red army as one of few examples of chemical weapon usage by combined White army/NREF forces. In 1920, when north front collapsed, in Pinezh area Red army captured ammunition stockpile, containing about hundred chemical artillery shells.
Funny fact - just in 1918 british (inc. british commonwealth) soldiers and bolsheviks fights together against Finland in Pechenga.
#3: Re: OZ WW1 VC Soldiers remains found in Russia Author: pvt_Grunt, Location: Melbourne, AustraliaPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:57 am I didnt know any Australians fought there!
#4: Re: OZ WW1 VC Soldiers remains found in Russia Author: Badger22, Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:14 pm Neither did I, thought only the Brits and Americans did (in terms of Anglo-Saxon nations, that is). Everyone seemed to pile on the Bolsheviks in 1918-1920! By the way, did the Australians and other Commonwealth contingents have a specific reason to leave the Russian theatre, apart from "it's useless to continue and the war's supposed to be over"? Because I know the French removed their troops from Russia because more and more of their soldiers were starting to share the Reds' ideas and it was threatening both the contingent and, in the long run, French political stability. Meanwhile, the Japanese only left the Russian Far East when military kicked out of it...
#5: Re: OZ WW1 VC Soldiers remains found in Russia Author: JFFulcrum, Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:06 pm
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did the Australians and other Commonwealth contingents have a specific reason to leave the Russian theatre
Yes, they had. Although offensive south from Arkhangelsk was mostly successful, in other areas things going not so smooth. At same time as Emtsa fight, near Koikary settlement (Karelia), 6th RM Battalion faced furious defense from Red army and finally got into fire trap, with serious losses. In return, when the next order to proceed attack was received, first company mutinied and disobediently leaved positions. And that was not a single case of such kind. Of course, morale of troops was already depleted by long war...
#6: Re: OZ WW1 VC Soldiers remains found in Russia Author: Badger22, Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:40 pm Okay, so that's more or less the same thing that happened to the American contingent, that ended up with massive insubordination and mutiny issues as well in Arkhangelsk.
And yes, it's easy to understand why people who just went through the most destructive war the world ever witnessed wouldn't really want to go fight in a remote place against an enemy that doesn't threaten their country...