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#1: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: Bungarra, Location: Murchison region, West Australia

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:23 am
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Like many, I do not have the almost $70 (Oz) to splash on something that doesn't work.

So if you have it..... Please post your comments for or against here.

Personally I hope its worth the wait.

#2: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: Bendit,

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:49 pm
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There's a very informative review here if you are interested: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/10/04/wot-i-think-close-combat-the-bloody-first/

#3: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: FreeKing,

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:23 am
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Figures. Fans of the series could make a better game with more detail and a better simulation than developers paid thousands, maybe millions, to make one. I picked it up to try it out, but I hope I didn’t just get shafted.

#4: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: southern_land,

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:35 am
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Bendit wrote (View Post):

There's a very informative review here if you are interested: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/10/04/wot-i-think-close-combat-the-bloody-first/

Ouch! [Hides credit card against drunken midnight spends]

#5: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: Sapa,

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:18 am
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I have played a couple of hours now and i will give my impressions..

Positive things: All the sounds are saved in Wave unpacked. Weaponsounds/Music are real good but why couldnt they have made some new voicies? It is the old German and Amercian.... There are new voicies for the Italians (where is my pizza?) There is a scenarioeditor like the "Road to Baghdad" and "Modern Tactics" and that is nice. There is no mapeditor. Vehicles and soldiers looking god. Moving units are shown by arrows that shows the way where it will move ( finally they have learned something after the disaster with vehicle movements in "Last Stand Arnhem"...)

Negative things: Mapgraphics real good but sorry guys...it is not enough for me. Maybe im getting old and are damaged from the old games but for me it is very hard to get some "overview" of the battle...i click and move the units and they get slaughterd. It is the same kind of things i didnt like with "Panthers in the fog" when some units is noticed shown with the question mark...the Girle Soldiers and "no clear path" is imported too...

For me it feels like geeting good and new graphics for Close Combat was the main purpose and as i said..that is nothing for and old fool like me... (i still love Dungeon Keeper, Blitzkrieg 1, and Close Combat 5)

No way i will pay 377SEK=34EURO=31GBP=38USD for this game..sorry!

"Det är ju kuken sa Glenn Hysen!" :-D

Greetings Mats

#6: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: jakebullet70, Location: Washington State / Kherson Ukraine

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:00 pm
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I have got a few hours in. It is not bad. Takes some time to get used to the new 3d engine and I really like that you really can see LOS easily. I am having fun.

It is still close combat and let's face it, each new close combat some of your old game related tactics failed from the previous version and you learned some new game related tactics. Same here.

But...

Not worth $40. Just not worth it. Kicking myself for spending it. Got caught up in the moment.
$20 and I say ok.

Wait for the sale guys.

#7: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: DoktorPaj, Location: Norrköping

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:16 pm
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I just noticed it was out by chance, looking at other games.
Gonna look at some reviews and vids, I really feel like buying it right away just 'cause it is CC.

#8: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: dj,

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:53 am
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How do you rate the A.I. performance? I read on reviews that A.I. kind of cheats with Eagle eye perfect L.O.S. Not the first time I heard of cheating A.I. in gaming.

Sapa wrote (View Post):

I have played a couple of hours now and i will give my impressions..

Positive things: All the sounds are saved in Wave unpacked. Weaponsounds/Music are real good but why couldnt they have made some new voicies? It is the old German and Amercian.... There are new voicies for the Italians (where is my pizza?) There is a scenarioeditor like the "Road to Baghdad" and "Modern Tactics" and that is nice. There is no mapeditor. Vehicles and soldiers looking god. Moving units are shown by arrows that shows the way where it will move ( finally they have learned something after the disaster with vehicle movements in "Last Stand Arnhem"...)

Negative things: Mapgraphics real good but sorry guys...it is not enough for me. Maybe im getting old and are damaged from the old games but for me it is very hard to get some "overview" of the battle...i click and move the units and they get slaughterd. It is the same kind of things i didnt like with "Panthers in the fog" when some units is noticed shown with the question mark...the Girle Soldiers and "no clear path" is imported too...

For me it feels like geeting good and new graphics for Close Combat was the main purpose and as i said..that is nothing for and old fool like me... (i still love Dungeon Keeper, Blitzkrieg 1, and Close Combat 5)

No way i will pay 377SEK=34EURO=31GBP=38USD for this game..sorry!

"Det är ju kuken sa Glenn Hysen!" :-D

Greetings Mats

#9: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:02 am
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I'm amazed at the bugs being posted on the Matrix forums as I do not know how they could not have been caught/seen in testing.

I'll wait to see what fixes/patches come before even considering the purchase as I do not trust Matrix to fix them giving some of the obvious bugs ignored/left in the previous releases.

#10: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: Hesus,

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:30 pm
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For now i am not convinced the game is worth buying to be honest.

#11: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: Antony_nz,

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:39 am
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Wow, just looked at Omaha beach on CCTBF.
Fuck, what a disappointment compared to CC5 or CC5 bloody Omaha.

Overall the graphics are a downgrade from Close Combat 5. I don't really know how else to put it. I'm not being a contrarian, it just seem objectively obvious that the graphics are inferior.
I would be reluctant to introduce my friends to CCTBF as a realistic war game just because of the shity graphics. Why not have a realistic and cool looking battlefield with good graphics e.g CC5?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J2m7RJ8dI0
Check out the explosions on Omaha beach on this video.

#12: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: Sapa,

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:50 am
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[quote="dj";p="89975"]How do you rate the A.I. performance? I read on reviews that A.I. kind of cheats with Eagle eye perfect L.O.S. Not the first time I heard of cheating A.I. in gaming.

I really cant say (gave up the the game after 3 hours). I think the AI dosent cheat anymore than the old games Smile

one thing is great they have finaly gave the vehicles engine sounds (like the blitzkrieggame from 2003). Used all the new great sounds (and music) and made a new soundfile for TLD Very Happy

[quote="Sapa";p="89954"]I have played a couple of hours now and i will give my impressions..

Positive things: All the sounds are saved in Wave unpacked. Weaponsounds/Music are real good but why couldnt they have made some new voicies? It is the old German and Amercian.... There are new voicies for the Italians (where is my pizza?) There is a scenarioeditor like the "Road to Baghdad" and "Modern Tactics" and that is nice. There is no mapeditor. Vehicles and soldiers looking god. Moving units are shown by arrows that shows the way where it will move ( finally they have learned something after the disaster with vehicle movements in "Last Stand Arnhem"...)

Negative things: Mapgraphics real good but sorry guys...it is not enough for me. Maybe im getting old and are damaged from the old games but for me it is very hard to get some "overview" of the battle...i click and move the units and they get slaughterd. It is the same kind of things i didnt like with "Panthers in the fog" when some units is noticed shown with the question mark...the Girle Soldiers and "no clear path" is imported too...

For me it feels like geeting good and new graphics for Close Combat was the main purpose and as i said..that is nothing for and old fool like me... (i still love Dungeon Keeper, Blitzkrieg 1, and Close Combat 5)

No way i will pay 377SEK=34EURO=31GBP=38USD for this game..sorry!

"Det är ju kuken sa Glenn Hysen!" :-D

Greetings Mats[/quote][/quote]

#13: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: mooxe,

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:07 pm
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One thing most annoying about all these videos is nobody uses the move fast command.

#14: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: Pzt_Crackwise, Location: Switzerland

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:05 pm
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mooxe wrote (View Post):

One thing most annoying about all these videos is nobody uses the move fast command.

And the "move" graphics for soldiers look as if they are grandpas who are trying to find their way to the WC in the middle of the night...

"Move" order is supposed to be the cautious type of movement, so why not at least make them move their weapons raised.

Apart from this, the videos and reviews confirm that this is yet another cash grab attempt. The Rock Paper Shotgun review sums up how broken the AI still is (see the link below). I can live with shitty AI as long as they had decent and reliable multiplayer. But as you know, this game runs also only on their shitty servers.

The review of RPS:
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/10/04/wot-i-think-close-combat-the-bloody-first/

#15: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: vobbnobb,

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:47 pm
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checking in

just noticed this

https://closecombatthebloodyfirst.gamepedia.com/Official_Close_Combat:_The_Bloody_First_Wiki

#16: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: KG_Brandenburg, Location: Austin,Tx

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:05 am
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FreeKing wrote (View Post):

Figures. Fans of the series could make a better game with more detail and a better simulation than developers paid thousands, maybe millions, to make one. I picked it up to try it out, but I hope I didn’t just get shafted.

With the assets such as graphics or data editing.. perhaps but do not confuse modding with actually writing a game engine.. Most fans do not have the necessary skills in C++ or C# to being able to understand much less edit most of the lines of code (not sure what language is used but its probably one of those)

<edit> btw.. i actually do or did have those skills around 2009.. earned a degree in 2006 in programming and by 2009 i was at the peak of my proficiency but life happened and I stopped coding around that time

#17: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:56 pm
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Was any patches released by now? Stability issues? Generally, should it be treated like preview or like real game? Had bad experience with Jagged Alliance re-runs...if you know what i mean.

#18: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:32 am
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There are at v1.00.06.... So 6 patches so far....

#19: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:13 am
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v1.00.07 came out Dec. 11; https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4732248

Based on feedback to the patches they are getting closer to what should have been the v1.00 release.

#20: Re: Close Combat Bloody First Reviews Author: pvt_Grunt, Location: Melbourne, Australia

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:01 am
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Now just waiting for the sale..........

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