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#181: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: mooxe PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:09 pm
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Refugee count now at 3.3 million with an addition estimated 6 million displaced within the Ukraine.

What is exactly is Russia offering besides brotherly love?

#182: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: paratmar PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:11 pm
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Do you realy ready to die in nuclear war? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6mw9U62ZJU&t=1363s

#183: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: mooxe PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:15 pm
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Do Russian nukes actually work?

Valid question these days.

Need a lot of money to keep nukes maintained.

#184: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:16 am
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Going to quote former US Ambassador to Russia again, Michael McFaul....He says for those people the continue to demand No-Fly zone over Ukraine, to request Declaration of War against Russia.  What part of No do these people not understand?  I wish Ukraine would STFU about No Fly Zone demands every single day.  Nope

New reports of Belarus Partisans sabotaging railroads used by Russian military
https://dailyusmagazine.com/politics/belarus-rail-lines-carrying-trains-with-supplies-for-the-russian-army-are-being-hit-by-sabotage-attacks/

#185: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: paratmar PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:00 am
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mooxe wrote (View Post):
Do Russian nukes actually work?

Valid question these days.

Need a lot of money to keep nukes maintained.

Do you REALY wants to know it!? I dont wouldnt check it. I Love my Life.

#186: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: Berger PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:29 am
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dj wrote (View Post):
New reports of Belarus Partisans sabotaging railroads used by Russian military
https://dailyusmagazine.com/politics/belarus-rail-lines-carrying-trains-with-supplies-for-the-russian-army-are-being-hit-by-sabotage-attacks/  



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The General Prosecutor of Belarus opened a criminal case into what it called an act of terrorism carried out by an organized group against infrastructure of the Belarusian Railway, according to TASS


I doubt it. I have not found confirmation of this network of partisans neither in the Belarusian prosecutor's office nor in TASS

https://www.prokuratura.gov.by/en/

https://tass.com/search

#187: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: paratmar PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:19 am
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dj wrote (View Post):
Going to quote former US Ambassador to Russia again, Michael McFaul....He says for those people the continue to demand No-Fly zone over Ukraine, to request Declaration of War against Russia.  What part of No do these people not understand?  I wish Ukraine would STFU about No Fly Zone demands every single day.  Nope

New reports of Belarus Partisans sabotaging railroads used by Russian military
https://dailyusmagazine.com/politics/belarus-rail-lines-carrying-trains-with-supplies-for-the-russian-army-are-being-hit-by-sabotage-attacks/  

No one is embarrassed by the photos from this article? Photo where the train - officer has an inscription on the back "Police", and not the militia? (in Belarus the police is called the milition). Photos from protests from another time of the year? (it's still winter in Belarus)

#188: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:23 am
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https://twitter.com/maria_avdv/status/1504148659558101003?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
 
Huge Bomb.

https://twitter.com/fredabrahams/status/1504883746708893696

One wounded. Likely the explosive from the bomb was stolen and sold on blackmarket...damn corruption in Russia.

#189: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:00 pm
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What is exactly is Russia offering besides brotherly love?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv97YeC563Y
Transcript: https://lyricstranslate.com/en/%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B4%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D1%8B-%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BC-%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C%D1%8F%D0%BC%D0%B8-we%E2%80%99ll-never-be-brothers.html
 
This Ukrainian video was changing point - and many in Russia picked up the message and came to Donbass - there is no sin in killing non-brothers. Never underestimate a power of poetry.

P.S. Girl from video confronted into troubles with ukrainian state and live in EU for 5+ years already, ukrainian patriotism at its best.

#190: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: paratmar PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:41 pm
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Analysis of a video with a "'Dagger"" hypersonic missile. English subtitles are available too. Is there still a desire to check whether Russia's nuclear weapons work, or will we take our word for it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d84r7Ifid78&ab_channel=SkyArtist

#191: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 6:58 pm
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Interesting works in Ukrainian bio-labs: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcimb.2020.589464/full

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The US Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) Human Research Oversight Board (HROB) reviewed and approved this research study, which was conducted in compliance with U.S. Army Regulation AR 70-25


Defense agencies and US Army protocols seems usual in peaceful studies...

And previously was special studies to lower required limit of biosafety for such studies: https://www.microbiologyresearch.org/content/journal/jgv/10.1099/jgv.0.000610#tab2
 
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CCHFV has been classified as a hazard group 4 pathogen (UK) or risk group 4 (Europe, USA, international) in countries that have promulgated biosafety regulations, and should accordingly be handled in containment level 4 (CL-4, UK) or biosafety level 4 (BSL-4, Europe, USA, international) laboratories


...because we know from https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17916606/russia-virus-stolen-from-ukrainian-lab-bioweapon/  :

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Although Ukraine doesn't have a level-four lab


and this obstacle was removed. But nothing to care about, because:

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The views expressed by state-employed American co-authors are their personal views, and do not necessarily represent the views of the US government agencies they work for.


and the agency is:

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US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, Fort Detrick, MD, USA.


Absolutely nothing to be scared about.

#192: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:09 am
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Why does Russia continue to bring up Chemical Weapons even at the United Nations?  And keeps conflating disinformation about "bio-labs" as some conspiracy theory to justify.  Biolabs can be used for many things, blood tests, science, Coronavirus research. So because Kremlin propaganda keeps saying this, does it make it true?  Russian people are not stupid, I don't think they literally believe this or the de-Nazification lies.  Not even Paratmar, whom already said he doesn't believe there are Nazi's in Ukraine.

Navalny getting another 9 years of jail, while he looks like skeleton near starved to death because he expressed views against Putin?

And Russia just announced new "Fake News" laws today , so maybe not much choice.  Some Russians using VPN services to bypass the censorships.

#193: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: paratmar PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:06 am
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dj wrote (View Post):
Why does Russia continue to bring up Chemical Weapons even at the United Nations?  And keeps conflating disinformation about "bio-labs" as some conspiracy theory to justify.  Biolabs can be used for many things, blood tests, science, Coronavirus research. So because Kremlin propaganda keeps saying this, does it make it true?  Russian people are not stupid, I don't think they literally believe this or the de-Nazification lies.  Not even Paratmar, whom already said he doesn't believe there are Nazi's in Ukraine.

Navalny getting another 9 years of jail, while he looks like skeleton near starved to death because he expressed views against Putin?

And Russia just announced new "Fake News" laws today , so maybe not much choice.  Some Russians using VPN services to bypass the censorships.

I didn’t say anything about the Nazis in Ukraine, I haven’t been there for a long time, and I don’t believe all the media 100%. BUT! I myself in my youth was fond of various views, including the external manifestations of the Wehrmacht and the Waffen SS. It's beautiful, brutal, spectacular. But over time, I became a cosmopolitan, as I studied history, culture and human psychology in more depth. I think there are many followers of Nationalism in Ukraine.  But this does not mean that they are all Nazis in spirit, many simply under the influence of youthful maximalism and herd instinct.
As I said, Ukraine is only the beginning of the redistribution of the world order. What will end is unknown, but many will suffer. Human nature is prone to violence. "War is just a continuation of politics by other means" (c). On a war, you should to choose a side.
"Where you was born there and came in handy" - Russian proverb)).

#194: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: mooxe PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:30 pm
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I believe Russia has chemical weapons. Is this true? Is there any chance they could use them?

If Russia wants to win this war quickly, I think they will have to use different weapons. The currently strategy of indirect bombardment and destruction of cities may take too long.

#195: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:45 pm
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If Russia wants to win this war quickly, I think they will have to use different weapons.

May be not quickly. The more population fled to West, the less troubles will be in taken lands (especially considering expecting fail of spring sowing campaign = troubles with even basic food supplies). Some different weapons already used  - some videos claimed as usage of thermobaric system TOS-1 in Ukraine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSYNcaX3lTw , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbSN8dyJw9I

Chemical weapons are reserved for OPCW-approved 'white helmets' provocations - https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/03/21/Ammonia-leak-reported-at-chemicals-plant-in-Ukraine-s-besieged-Sumy

#196: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:08 am
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Well this is the big mystery is Russia holding back or is it dysfunctional government?  Russia could potentially carpet bomb / missile strike every inch of Ukraine cities but I suspect not  because 1) plan to loot and plunder Ukraine 2) Russia does not want to waste more expensive munitions  3) Russia wants to have some small chance to govern intact cities where possible to install puppet regime (return of Victor/Mannafort).

The recent estimates of 7,000 Russian KIA looks very credible.  More evidence of ambush carnage and wrecks.  Total Russian casualties including prisoners, wounded or missing approaching estimated 10% of invasion force now.  So Russia does not have good options now...either re-group and reinforce or escalate.

#197: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:13 am
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New intercepted Russian communications (rely on Ukrainian cell service?) confirms invasion force teams running out of fuel, water, food.

#198: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:17 am
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https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/22/ukraine-russia-military-radio/?tpcc=recirc_latest062921

#199: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:56 am
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dj wrote (View Post):
New intercepted Russian communications (rely on Ukrainian cell service?) confirms invasion force teams running out of fuel, water, food.

Ukraine had a bad story of mastered 'speaking heads' videos, some was exposed as fakes even on MH17 tribunal.

Ukraine seems like stockpiled and well maintained enough Tochka (NATO code Scarab) tactical ballistic missiles, and made some successful strikes, including today's one at Berdiansk port -https://t.me/milinfolive/79457
Estimates was that they had several hundreds before the 2014.

#200: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: mooxe PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:10 pm
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It seems as if the Russians have destroyed their own troop transport ship in order to find cause to use chemical and/or nuclear weapons.



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