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#541: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:44 pm
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Its just amazing how we were all led to believe Russia's military was so extremely powerful. Then Russia shows us how wrong we have always been by tripping over their own ineptitude in a pointless war they started.

Russia called its own bluff!

#542: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj,

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:56 pm
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I suspect it's the later. Growing up in the Cold War and knowing the full power of Russian war machine firing on all cylinders still not forgotten. Rather it's the extreme dysfunction now, orders to commit atrocities, intentionally target all civilians, having to see corpses of dead children non combatants not to mention witnessing heavy losses of comrades with no clear reason why to die as invaders.

#543: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: paratmar,

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 4:48 am
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Its just amazing how we were all led to believe EU's economic was so extremely powerful. Then EU shows us how wrong we have always been by tripping over their own ineptitude in a pointless sunctions war they started.
The US and the UK are dismantling the EU industry without disdaining anything, even direct state terrorism and sabotage! It is sad(.

#544: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: Berger,

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 6:49 pm
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paratmar wrote (View Post):

mooxe wrote (View Post):

Russian forces in Lyman defeated after encirclement.

and what?

Well, Lyman is an important railway junction.

NATO sources says encirclement, Russian sources says orderly retreat.

An interesting opinion by a former Spanish press correspondent in Moscow. You can use google translate

https://rafaelpoch.com/2022/10/01/una-chaladura-suicida/

#545: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: paratmar,

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:34 pm
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Berger wrote (View Post):

paratmar wrote (View Post):

mooxe wrote (View Post):

Russian forces in Lyman defeated after encirclement.

and what?

Good article

#546: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:44 pm
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Quote:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/were-fucked-vladimir-putins-great-russia-plan-just-went-up-in-smoke-in-lyman

Open lie right from the start about pro-Russian blogger Anatoly Shariy. Then fairy tales about '5000 encircled' from usual 'unnamed person close to source' - gold standard of post-modern journalism. And finally yet another 'talking head' show, probably recorded in Lviv by Ukrainian psycho-war corps. Truth is only about Kadyrov speech. BTW, DailyBeast, The Sun - extremely good sources of military info. Just good sources focuses on Kherson right now, north always was a side frontline.

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Rather it's the extreme dysfunction now, orders to commit atrocities, intentionally target all civilians, having to see corpses of dead children non combatants not to mention witnessing heavy losses of comrades with no clear reason why to die as invaders.

Current war propaganda. Just sit and wait, soon western govts and media will start once again spread scary stories about unstoppable Russian bear, to force common men vote for war hawks, more taxes for fund Ukraine, energy prices rises and so on. Of course, there will be cool points about Russian soldiers with 12-inch dicks hanging openly, wandering around battlefield to rape everyone who look girlish enough.

#547: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:27 pm
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paratmar wrote (View Post):

Its just amazing how we were all led to believe EU's economic was so extremely powerful. Then EU shows us how wrong we have always been by tripping over their own ineptitude in a pointless sunctions war they started.
The US and the UK are dismantling the EU industry without disdaining anything, even direct state terrorism and sabotage! It is sad(.

What exactly is wrong with the EU economy?

#548: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj,

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:01 am
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And how would Russian state media controlled by Putin rank in comparison to the rest of the world media which always has been proven factually accurate with their facts?

Are we suppose to trust the Autocratic state controlled by person with obvious track record of being liar? And the whole rest of world is wrong?

These are OLD anti-Western talking points in Russia used long ago by Josef Stalin and many others whom intentionally sought to isolate Russia and blame the rest of the world for its problems.

#549: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:34 am
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Russia attempted to encircle Ukrainian forces many times but they wouldn't let it happen and retreat.

You forgot Mariupol

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Are we suppose to trust the Autocratic state controlled by person with obvious track record of being liar? And the whole rest of world is wrong?

People living in 2D world believe to everything. Not many in Russia trust official media - thanks for late USSR and 'democratic' 90-s for some hard lessons. But i'm actually surprised, how well ukrainian propaganda piss sold to westerners as gold, even for those who show signs of intelligence. Stuck in the teeth 'damsel in distress' and 'barbarians near gate' cards still in play, and plays well. Even while ukrainian propaganda is schizophrenic by nature, with mutually exclusive terms in almost any issuance.

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#550: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: paratmar,

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:35 am
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mooxe wrote (View Post):

paratmar wrote (View Post):

What exactly is wrong with the EU economy?

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/08/business/economy/russia-ukraine-global-economy.html https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/europe-heading-recession-cost-living-crisis-deepens-2022-09-05/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2022/09/05/will-europes-third-world-economic-crisis-lead-to-global-recession/?sh=3c0152085f9c

#551: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:09 am
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Pretty sure even in recession if there is one, it will still be powerful.

#552: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj,

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:45 am
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Yes Paratmar, you're conflating completely different things. The entire world, not ONLY Europe is suffering from economic problems now namely supply chain constraints and inflation. That has nothing to do with EU being weak.
Albeit EU's inflationary rate is much worse than USA right now, it's still relatively resilient. I believe that part of supply chain problems are fabricated on purpose by China to price gouge and cheat. And other businesses copy-cat and lie blaming alleged supply chain reasons as excuse to raise prices. And USA recession data is less than 1% decline. The housing market and stock markets were way overvalued anyways in need of correction.

As far as Tom Gauld cartoon....help me understand what part of this is not true. Putin unequivocally is the wicked despot, cross between Josef Stalin and Ivan the Terrible. Sad that Russia suffers from this delusional wicked man whom masquerades Autocratic Fascist state controlled by him as fake Czarist Imperial Russian dynasty from 1700's. He does use Brutish tactics with documented evidence of dozens of war crimes and genocide. Don't forget we in the West source our info independently not dependent on Ukraine. And don't forget we have millions of Russian immigrants which teach us all the dirty tricks of Russian state. Garry Kasparov and many Russian authors/writers have long since moved here and teach us well.

#553: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:43 am
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paratmar wrote (View Post):

Closest Tank Combat - https://rusvesna.su/news/1664452160

The longer version of the same video.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/xv9jn2/a_russian_attack_in_donbas_ended_in_total_fiasco/

#554: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: paratmar,

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 12:17 pm
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Russian proverb - Komu Voina, a komu mat rodna (War is terrible for someone, but for someone she is a mother) - Ukraine war: How weapons makers are profiting from the conflict https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-how-weapons-makers-are-profiting-from-the-conflict-12624574

#555: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:14 pm
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Imagine the lost profits if Russia didn't invade!

#556: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:26 pm
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Russians in Kherson crumbling now.

Will the Antonovskiy bridge remain intact or not? Photos of missiles strikes on it this morning.

Are the Russians trapped?

#557: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:58 pm
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Quote:

The longer version of the same video.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/xv9jn2/a_russian_attack_in_donbas_ended_in_total_fiasco/

Actually not. Still unknown, which side made a first 40 sec.

#558: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: paratmar,

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:10 pm
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Sorry, opechatka) --- Evacuation of the crew of the wrecked BMP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIq56FUW85c&t=125s&ab_channel=Say...

#559: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: paratmar,

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:24 am
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mooxe wrote (View Post):

Russians in Kherson crumbling now.

Will the Antonovskiy bridge remain intact or not? Photos of missiles strikes on it this morning.

Are the Russians trapped?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt6g7DH0Di4&ab_channel=%D0%96%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9%D0%A4%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%81

#560: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: paratmar,

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:26 am
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Movie "Bests in Hell" (White - Russians, yellow - NATO proxies) https://yarus.ru/p/32175841

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