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#961: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj,

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:25 am
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Yes that's true but there's a reason why they failed at killing Zelensky. At the beginning stages of the "Special Military Operation" 2 years ago, the strategy was to send 2 plane loads of elite paratroopers directly into Kiev. Along with other special forces deployed behind Ukrainian lines. However some how Ukraine knew of plans in advance, ready for the paratroopers and shot down both planes with all hands lost. This gave Zelensky's security team advance notice Russian special forces were attempting to attack him. And Zelensky was able to learn from these Russian mistakes to improve his security team, likely purging any Russian informants. Russia too learned from this disaster and my guess is they found Ukrainian informants and plugged the intelligence leak.

#962: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:32 pm
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Great news 1: https://news.yahoo.com/cia-maintains-12-secret-bases-212250351.html
So claimed january strike on CIA-ruled meeting in Kharkiv with multiple foreign operatives and mercenaries losses got another confirmation.

Great news 2: https://apnews.com/article/paris-conference-support-ukraine-zelenskyy-c458a1df3f9a7626128cdeb84050d469
So PISS Alliance is really on the horizon.

dj wrote (View Post):

Yes that's true but there's a reason why they failed at killing Zelensky. At the beginning stages of the "Special Military Operation" 2 years ago, the strategy was to send 2 plane loads of elite paratroopers directly into Kiev. Along with other special forces deployed behind Ukrainian lines. However some how Ukraine knew of plans in advance, ready for the paratroopers and shot down both planes with all hands lost. This gave Zelensky's security team advance notice Russian special forces were attempting to attack him. And Zelensky was able to learn from these Russian mistakes to improve his security team, likely purging any Russian informants. Russia too learned from this disaster and my guess is they found Ukrainian informants and plugged the intelligence leak.

Sorry, but it looks like ukrainian-propaganda legend like 'Ghost of Kyiv' or 'Russian ship FY'' . There was a lot of opportunities in 2022 to kill Zelensky, but Putin had no intentions to make it happen. And now, with CIA , and, probably, US Secret Service cover, it's nearly impossible.

#963: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj,

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:10 am
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Neither side has been transparent with casualty losses and media is censored. However this incident was widely reported by international media. The mission was like WW2 style "Bridge Too Far" Arnhem disaster. I believe this wasthe Zelensky kill or capture alive mission. Reports look credible and I do remember seeing official Russian state funeral for Paratroopers around that time. Putin miscalculated like the Germans did thinking it would be quick and easy invasion that would be over in couple months if that. He gambled on risky special forces and paratrooper operations to capture airport near Kiev. Then hoped they could land reinforcement, didn't quite work out that way. Plus forced Zelensky to greatly improve his security team out of necessity. Then it was too late for Putin.

https://theaviationist.com/2022/02/26/two-il-76s-shot-down-in-ukraine/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/us-intel-helped-ukraine-protect-air-defenses-shoot-russian-plane-carry-rcna26015
(how did they have this advance notice? sounds like Ukrainian informant inside Russian command)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Antonov_Airport

"...Security analyst Andrew McGregor described the battle for Antonov Airport as "Russian Airborne Disaster". According to him, the initial Russian operation had aimed at securing an early access for the invasion forces into Kyiv to end the entire war within a day or two. Instead, Russian intelligence had failed to assess the actual concentration of Ukrainian defenders around the airport, and assumed only token defenses."

#964: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:10 pm
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Great news #3: https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/ausland/taurus-leak-russland-bundeswehr-ukraine-krieg-russland-100.html

I like that German military is still professional and do not want to be drag into was, unfortunately, like in Russia and US, political pressure often too high to deal with.

#965: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj,

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:39 pm
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Not really entirely accurate. Olaf faces pressures from Green Party and others reluctant to see Germany re-militarize. But the truth is that Russia's invasion precisely gave Germany's sleeping giant military industrial complex good news of their own with huge increases in military spending. They already gave Ukraine anti-aircraft weapons, Leopards and Marders. And Olaf gave proclamation speech 2 years ago that they must re-arm. The only reason why Germany decided to de-militarize was to cash-in their Cold War victory" dividends". Now 30 years later, Russia made it clear they still want war. Yeah kind of like America's problem because Putin needs to blame outside forces and a diversion to justify his totalitarian control.

From my understanding, it costs average Russian about $100 USD per month minimum for basic groceries and food and average Russian earns only $700 USD per month. I have no idea how much housing costs in Russia it's a mystery to me but presumably Russians won't have much money left after food and housing. Interesting the Navalny funeral ceremony yesterday had huge crowds but police acted professionally did not do something stupid and let the people pay their respects in Moscow.

#966: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:10 pm
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/04/british-soldiers-on-ground-ukraine-german-military-leak
I'm loving it https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/03/03/germany-intelligence-leak-uk-troops-ground-ukraine-nato/ :

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He also revealed that France delivers their version of Storm Shadow missiles, known as Scalp, to Ukraine in the back of Audi Q7s, a commercial SUV that costs about £67,000.

What a mix of conventional warfare and Africa-style clashes we got in Ukraine...

As usual, don`t forget to always check your reality (it's still on their main page - https://www.bbc.com/news/reality_check)!

#967: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:19 am
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Last stands of Russian Black Sea fleet ships: 'Caesar Kunnikov', 'Sergey Kotov': 1, 2

After numerous attempts (germal FL-boats in WWI, italian MTM boats and Croci torpedoes in WWII, experiments by Japan, Tamil tigers, Al-Quaeda) USVs and UUVs reached maturity. The only component missing to employ them by everyone is US Starlink...but it is only about time. And 100% of current ships of all the Navies in world are have only machine guns to confront them.

#968: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:39 pm
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Phalanx CIWS can defend against these type of craft. There is likely an already of emerging EW component as well.

#969: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:37 pm
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What can happen after Spain govt practically dropped investigation about execution of Kuzminov? Well, others decide that they can do the same in Spain altogether, like attempt of assassination of former ukrainian journalist Sharij https://www.eldiario.es/catalunya/periodista-ucraniano-anatoli-sharii-denuncia-han-intentado-matarle-esposa-tarragona_1_10985387.html . Interesting part is that Sharij himself in own video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuUitkmWDLg claimed that suspect was armed with russian weapon known as VAL, probably to make believe that perpetuators are russians. That's funny, because he is under Ukraine personal sanctions and his party was closed as pro-russian ( https://www.kyivpost.com/post/7193 , https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/3/21/why-did-ukraine-suspend-11-pro-russia-parties ). There was already an arson attempt past year https://strana.today/news/448756-v-ispanii-zabrosalikoktejljami-molotova-villu-sharija.html . seems like Spain govt like or forced to ignore Ukrainian crime activities at their home.

mooxe wrote (View Post):

Phalanx CIWS can defend against these type of craft. There is likely an already of emerging EW component as well.

If i remember correctly, Phalanx have angle of depression only -20 degrees, and usually placed on topsides of ships for better AA angles. It is also have only ~1km effective range and ammo only for 20-sec of continuous fire. Considering EC/EW tools - its already failed for Russia, wide-area actions are useless because of too many satellites available for USV/UUV in Starlink and GPS, and direct 'guns' like anti-drone rifles demand too many troops and barrels to effectivly catch a dozen of attacking drones.

#970: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj,

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:23 pm
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Sharji is Kremlin propagandist channeling word for word talking points exactly what the Russian State lies about. Why would Ukraine allegedly feel the need to kill him? It's not necessary, Zelensky is extremely popular both internally within Ukraine and globally. That's not real investigative journalism to just be propagandist on behalf of government(s). A real investigative journalist would be similar to Police investigator, or even better than Police to expose true crime or corruption, then back that up with actual evidence.

As far as the Russian Helicopter pilot defector, why would Ukraine want to kill him? What would be the motive? Law enforcement basics 101 are about establishment of credible motive, which in this case would be none. Again typical Russian Kremlin classic technique to blame the other side for their own actions as diversion without any evidence. Russian State has done this many times for anyone that dares to cross them. Prigozhin and Navalny most obvious examples. Or even Trotsky getting killed by Stalin.

As far as allegations of "framing" Russia, that's another classic diversion of criminals to blame someone else when guilty. Millions globally use Russian weapons especially assault rifles. Russian guns are the most popular in the world due to low cost, surplus of inventories, convenience of similar designs etc. I also own a Kalashnikov, and it's the only gun I own.

#971: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj,

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:32 pm
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As far as homemade naval drones used by Ukraine, I think the reason Russia is vulnerable is due to 1) some Russian ships are not equipped with adequate radar as Black Sea considered normally safe since they have total Naval supremacy and 2) some Russian ships not equipped with proper AA defense weapons or have none whatsoever. Even during WW2, the Axis powers had no chance to challenge Soviet naval supremacy in the Black Sea, it was hopeless for them. They had to rely solely on Air power, which is also hopeless for Ukraine too.

#972: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:12 am
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Sharji is Kremlin propagandist channeling word for word talking points exactly what the Russian State lies about. Why would Ukraine allegedly feel the need to kill him? It's not necessary, Zelensky is extremely popular both internally within Ukraine and globally. That's not real investigative journalism to just be propagandist on behalf of government(s). A real investigative journalist would be similar to Police investigator, or even better than Police to expose true crime or corruption, then back that up with actual evidence.

Try to read even wikipedia about him, it have some answers. Sharij already published in his media name and photo of ukrainian agent in Spain related to assassination attempt- https://t.me/ASupersharij/27456

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As far as the Russian Helicopter pilot defector, why would Ukraine want to kill him? What would be the motive?

You missed part about 500 000 USD.

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Millions globally use Russian weapons especially assault rifles.

VSS and VAL are not usual infantry weapons. That's special services ones. While some quantities was lost in Chechnya and Syria, its still too much for usual crimerings.

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As far as homemade naval drones used by Ukraine

That's popular distraction stories, like https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2024/03/07/how-ukraine-is-building-a-drone-army-at-its-kitchen-tables . Practically most drones are produced industrially, already organized by british and german military complex on ukrainian soil.

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some Russian ships are not equipped with adequate radar

Watch the videos. Its clear that drones are practically stealth, having only antennae posts above waterline.

#973: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:25 am
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/03/09/a-russian-drone-spotted-a-ukrainian-patriot-air-defense-crew-convoying-near-the-front-line-soon-a-russian-hypersonic-missile-streaked-down/

I wonder if soon we watch some news about US helicopter crash over sea with multiple losses, tradition for ratification of US personal losses since Cambodge.

https://t.me/dva_majors/36208 - hope no one survived in that nazi 'party van'.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/115668 - claimed as Zelensky motorcade in Kherson, observed by russian UAV.

#974: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:29 am
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/mar/19/hunter-biden-was-deterring-putin-for-1-million-sal/
Some commies sneak in WT and spread Putin`s propaganda i guess.

#975: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj,

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 4:30 pm
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Washington Times is not a legit news organization trying to copy cat a credible source called Washington Post. Famous for breaking the Nixon "Watergate" scandal. It's waste of time discussing Hunter, we all know he's a problem 54 year man-child whom cheats on taxes and abused his position with family ties to make money. Hunter took money from others, but he registered as foreign lobbyist as legally required and paid at least some of his taxes. Unlike Mike Flynn and Putin's puppet Paul Mannafort whom lied and intentionally kept secret, nor did they pay a nickel in taxes. And the Vodka man Smirnov was exposed as Russian troll spreading these types of lies. Case in point is that Partisans will keep peddling lies and the proven Russian state disinformation anyways.

What do you think of the Terror attack at Moscow theater? I heard Russian State has posted the body cam video footage on social media but the West does not have access. Also they refuse to show the suspects but that is normal even here when Police still has active investigation. Highly doubt Ukraine did it. Even if they did Russian bombs Ukrainian theaters, apartment buildings with children and civilian targets almost every day. Plus there's the genocide mass murder in Bucha and other places. American intelligence says it was ISIS but they offered no proof just their standard Jihadist celebration generic video. And would ISIS really want revenge for Syria? Doesn't make much sense. Maybe it's Chechynan separatists? They already had history doing this savage attacks in Russia vs civilians.

#976: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: paratmar,

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:11 am
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dj wrote (View Post):

What do you think of the Terror attack at Moscow theater? I heard Russian State has posted the body cam video footage on social media but the West does not have access. Also they refuse to show the suspects but that is normal even here when Police still has active investigation. Highly doubt Ukraine did it. Even if they did Russian bombs Ukrainian theaters, apartment buildings with children and civilian targets almost every day. Plus there's the genocide mass murder in Bucha and other places. American intelligence says it was ISIS but they offered no proof just their standard Jihadist celebration generic video. And would ISIS really want revenge for Syria? Doesn't make much sense. Maybe it's Chechynan separatists? They already had history doing this savage attacks in Russia vs civilians.

Only the court decides who is to blame. My personal opinion, like the opinion of most people I know: 1. This is the idea and signature of MI6. 2. Organizational and material support for the attack was carried out by the leadership of the terrorist entity "Ukraine" in the Northern Black Sea region. 3. Implementation through mercenaries from the scum of humanity.

#977: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:51 pm
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dj
I understand, that even if whole Biden`s family will be convicted for corruption, you will still have a good words for them. Done.

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I heard Russian State has posted the body cam video footage on social media but the West does not have access.

Such videos was leaked into Telegram, did`nt watch still. Happily was on work that times and got the news only tomorrow. Faces of perpertuators was shown in TV.

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Even if they did Russian bombs Ukrainian theaters, apartment buildings with children and civilian targets almost every day. Plus there's the genocide mass murder in Bucha and other places.

Your forgot MH-17, for which US and Britain officials promised to provide sat images and intelligence data, but didn't give anything to court. And, after exactly two years after Bucha, we unlikely see any investigations at all. For now, the Western media are Judge Dredd - they investigate, they prosecute, they execute, and even elected by people politicians can only obey, like doll-Biden.

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American intelligence says it was ISIS but they offered no proof just their standard Jihadist celebration generic video. And would ISIS really want revenge for Syria? Doesn't make much sense. Maybe it's Chechynan separatists? They already had history doing this savage attacks in Russia vs civilians.

American intelligence is in Ukrainian conflict itself in front of US at all (and with no Congress approvals or even hearings, of course), so their words costs as wooden nicle. Highly unlikely that was an ISIS. ISIS fighters will not tried to flee, they likely will take hostages, use media coverage to spread their word, and tried to explode with hostages during police storm, like was in Bataclan theatre 2015. Same with Chechen separatists during Nord-Ost in 2002. Here terrorists act synchonycally, like on clock, do not tried to take hostages, and leave scene just after 40 minutes. Their trace to border to Ukraine is suspicious too, though unlikely an asylum awaited them there, even if it was promised, likely they will be met with fire trap to break any traces to real planners behind. Right now stories told by terrorists are too similiar to stories of random russian men and women, forced to make arsons by fake money debts and psycologicall pressure via messengers like Telegram - and everyone in Russia know who is behind it...russian army several times captured dedicated 'call centers' in Ukraine, maintained by ukrainian SBU.

#978: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:58 pm
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Although, it may have no relation to Ukraine too...there was signs before, that it may be a someone's plan to deal with hostile migration into Russia, and now that people in russian politicians and 'siloviks' will got a free pass to crush ethnic criminal rings and expell most of migrants outside Russia. There is a possibility. When Western media praise heil to ISIS in well organized chorus, and Russian state media made an eneryday 'two hours hates' to Ukraine, any sentinent man must try to watch on other possible cases and paths.

#979: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:33 pm
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I understand that no evidence will ever be enough, this is by design.

These links offer reasonable explanations and summaries from on scene investigations, from online sources and from recovered meta data and phone logs as to who is responsible.

Bucha
From the UN - https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/countries/ukraine/2022/2022-12-07-OHCHR-Thematic-Report-Killings-EN.pdf
From NYT investigation into Bucha - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/video/russia-ukraine-bucha-massacre-takeaways.html
From Bellingcat - https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2022/04/04/russias-bucha-facts-versus-the-evidence/

MH17
From Dutch Safety Board - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGm00TdqirY
From www.om.nl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b4fsCxh8tk&list=PL5VK-BMmlzk3GisZOYOsqJ57G32Pp6GWk

#980: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum,

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:21 pm
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I spent my time on www.courtmh17.com materials. Virtually all they had was Bellingcat's materials, used 'as is', even while some other investigators found part of them was forged or wrong, and single unnamed whistleblower. Verdict is full of contradictions, like agreement that Ukraine air force do strikes on civilian areas but establishing of AA defenses was a conspiracy to kill people, or denial of respect defendants as combatants while sentencing on fact of being in chain of command. At least they dropped Ukrainian 'talking head' calls interceptions. For defense of only participated in trial accused one was relatively easy drop charges due to lack of evidence. Even while i'm personally quite believe it was shot down by rebels, seems like most of evidences was deprived from tribunal, possibly to hide Ukrainian govt and western intelligence involvement into disaster. Unlikely with Bucha will be any better.

OHCHR report is very interesting, thank you. Hardly an ethnic cleaning with such many interviewed survivors. But, like with MH17, there is an elephant in room, that everyone carefully tries not to notice. With MH17 that was a question, how a regular civilian plane got into warzone with outerknown fact of AA defenses active in place. In OHCHR report that is fact of active involvement of civilians into fight by Ukrainian govt, be it spreading rifles to population: https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-02-25/russian-troops-tighten-net-kyiv-ukraine-invasion , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLo6cwU_ZZw , or direct calls to assaults on russian troops, which can still be found of SM accounts of ukrainian govt: https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/259861229660296 , https://www.facebook.com/reznikovoleksii/posts/356018666534491 (minister of defense at time). No surprise, that russian soldiers soon begins to shot on anyone approaching them, results in that bad things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV0HgDRw2cok

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