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#361: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2022 10:34 pm
Media coverage is terrible anyways.  Except for the very few brave investigative journalists whom give their own independent analysis and interviews...i.e. Richard Engel from MSNBC.

The best media source I've found so far is the Moscow Times provided in both English and Russian.  They are independent Russian expatriates that appear to give fairly neutral coverage.  Not pro Putin but not Russian haters either because they are all Russian nationals.


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Russian State apparently will charge the Mariupol prisoners whom surrendered with war crimes against "civilians".  Don't think they will be so lucky for prisoner exchange.  Is this true what Russian media tells people that Mariupol POW's facing criminal charges?

Personally, I don’t watch media, I watch YouTube and telegram channels)

#362: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2022 1:45 pm
Previously: https://www.facebook.com/MinistryofDefence.UA/videos/720535602469791/
Now: https://focus.ua/voennye-novosti/517225-vstrecha-s-zaluzhnym-i-vyvod-vsu-eks-glava-sbu-v-harkovskoy-oblasti-obeshchaet-kompromat-na-silovikov-i-chinovnikov
They then throw four "200s" and three "300s" on a pole that is carried to the border and lose it for such a performance for the President.

#363: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 5:25 pm
Previously: https://www.blick.ch/ausland/interview-mit-lyudmila-denisova-61-kommissarin-fuer-menschenrechte-in-der-ukraine-die-vergewaltigungen-finden-stets-in-der-oeffentlichkeit-statt-id17458226.html
The rapes always take place in public

Now: https://fakty.com.ua/ru/ukraine/suspilstvo/20220531-nezrozumila-konczentracziya-na-statevyh-zlochynah-v-sn-poyasnyly-chomu-hochut-zvilnyty-denisovu/
He emphasized that Denisova was focused on "an incomprehensible concentration of media work." He emphasized that it was about numerous details of “sexual crimes committed in an unnatural way” and “rape of children in the occupied territories, which could not be substantiated by evidence, only harmed Ukraine and diverted the attention of the world media from the real needs of Ukraine.”

#364: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:29 pm

#365: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:51 pm
Previously: https://focus.ua/voennye-novosti/517978-ukrainskie-voennye-sbili-vrazheskiy-su-25-pod-zaporozhem-video
Now: https://avia.pro/news/poyavilos-video-s-mesta-sbitogo-iz-pzrk-boevogo-samolyota  ,

#366: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:16 pm

I argued - and the media agreed with me - why we need to talk about war crimes. Because when, for example, I spoke in the Italian parliament at the Committee on International Affairs, I heard and saw such fatigue from Ukraine, you know? I talked about terrible things in order to somehow push them to make the decisions that Ukraine and the Ukrainian people need. There (in Italy - SK) there is a party "Five Stars", which was against the provision of weapons to us, but after my speech, one of the party leaders expressed support for Ukraine, said that they will support, including the provision weapons.
Yes, then this vocabulary was very harsh, we discussed it (with the media. - SK), I said that, indeed, maybe I exaggerated. But I tried to achieve the goal of convincing the world to provide weapons and pressure (on Russia. - SK).

So the stories about 'Bucha bang basement' reached even UN, and now wiil be considered as part of official history - like Iraqi soldiers in Kuwait maternity hospital or Trnopolje death camp. The machines have no reverse in brave new world.

#367: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:56 am
Russian fleet lost another ship near Snake island: https://vk.com/wall701885602_4288 . The ship, 'Vasiliy Bekh', was a rescue tow built just in 2016. Ukrainian side tells that ship was used for transfer of military equipment on Snake island, thus being a legitimate target. Used weaponry currently unknown, it may be Danish-provided Harpoon or UK-provided Brimstone. Video claimed as from Ukrainian drone.

Seems like Russian navy didn't took lessons from Yemeni war.

#368: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:52 pm
2 former military American volunteers captured by Russian forces. Interogation video has been released by Russian state media.  Looks like they were ambushed suppose to be cleared village outside of Kharkov.  2 Russian T-72's and armored troop carriers + over 100 Russian infantry were way more than their small team could handle.  Captured after firing RPG.


#369: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:18 pm
The Grand battle over Snake Island begins. Both sides made an all-in to control sea route for ukrainian grain and NATO heavy weapons. Rumors tells that Romania lends some vessels for ukrainian navy, used in surprise strike over russian oil platforms previous night. Expect additions to underwater collections of Black sea.

#370: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:08 pm
Seems like both sides crawled away with no changes, also no data about actual losses right now.

So US took only 10K refugees from 8 million. Generously, as predicted.

#371: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:19 pm
Yes the media coverage is terrible right now, already was state censored from Russia side and the west barely covers any more.

I see the Moscow Times is still one of the few reliable sources. No mention in the West that Belarus was just escalated to Nuclear-ready including threats to arm MIG's with nuclear bombs.  Usual saber rattling by Putin.
What difference does it make if Belarus occupied land can fire tactical nukes 5 minutes faster vs from Russian territory.  Or if they are forced to fly sorties carrying nuclear-enabled bombs?  Putin is desperate to show fake partner with his puppet state hostage.

USA is completely full of immigrants it's out of control.  American citizens already face extreme the worst housing shortage in history.  WW2 generation saw the greatest affordable housing development boom for poor to middle class to easily buy...to polar opposite now nobody can afford even rent yet alone buying house.  And homeless every where in major urban centers.  So we have no more room for immgrants

#372: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:19 pm
I think that US govt also have exact knowledge about fascism in Ukraine (may be much closer to Putin`s declaration that they can publicly admit), and its is more that US can afford, facing troubles with homegrown ones. So as was don after WWII, they trying to divert east europe 'allies' to some other countries, like Canada, so canadian folks will had their chance to better knew, what is 14/88 or how to do ancient solar gymnastics right.

#373: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:00 pm
Again your government is feeding your people steady stream of bullsh*t lies.  There is no fascism or Nazi's in Ukraine it's all a diversion to trick your people into supporting an illegal invasion.  Like how President Bush tricked American public even then Senator Joe Biden into voting "yes" for another illegal invasion of Iraq.  Funny how Putin at that time complained about illegal invasion, correctly so.  Yet okay for him to do the same to sovereign Ukraine.  Unlike USA, where winds of change with new Presidents or Congress...nothing has changed in Russia.

As far as Canada, they have shortage of population and many of them especially immigrants use as stepping stone to come to United States.  So that's why Canada has easier immigration laws.  Both Canada and USA have huge populations of Ukrainian and Russian immigrants for decades.

#374: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:34 am
Yes the media coverage is terrible right now, already was state censored from Russia side and the west barely covers any more.

Not only media acting bad, even claimed 'neutral' resources like Wikipedia are. For example, Russian Wikipedia decided 'for neutrality' do not use as authoritative sources not russian, nor ukrainian media. But that leaves mostly western media, which, 'voluntarily' of course, decided to become an Ukrainian propaganda outlets, what lead to ugly results. No surprise though, with top five russian Wikipedia bureaucrats being two citizens of Israel, one Ukrainian citizen, one Belorussian (who live in Poland for some years already) and one with undisclosed nationality and citizenships. You know, Russian Wikipedia is too important to allow to manage it by some f* russians!

There is no fascism or Nazi's in Ukraine it's all a diversion to trick your people into supporting an illegal invasion.

H-m, having all those videos with tatoos and Third Raich symbolic, with all that statements from ukrainian officials... Ok, let`s wait for fackelzüge in western cities, like this . Although, i`m agree, that that is not fascism as it was, otherwise such a people acted differently. That is just wildness and barbarism of population, tossed into capitalism through shock 'reforms' and leaved with little care, with degrading social institutes and ruined education system. And wild peoples tend to do wild things. Like declarations of themselves as Aryans, ironically, considering Hitler`s definitions of slavic nations. Unlikely most of them actually read 'Mein Kampf'.

#375: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:07 pm

Biden decided to ban Russian gold. It should be work OK. Just like bans on russian oil, gas, fertilizers and enriched uranium worked well. Gold is used in many goods and technological processes, including microelectronics, which already plagued with deficiency. What the definition of insanity is?

I am always love, when the opponent`s true plans became clear. Also, how lovely they picked up old Ottoman Empire 'circassia' topic, really nothing is wasted by zealous owners. I guess though, that Russian relations with California Republic and Independent State of Texas will be also much better that with current US are.

#376: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: dj PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:20 am
Zero evidence of anyone in Ukraine government with third reich tattoos or being Nazi's.  Not even most Russians believe that.  Certainly nobody in the west believes this fairy tale.  In fact Ukraine is one of the few nations in Eastern Europe willing to accept African immigrants. Opposite of what you claim.  When African immigrants tried to flee to Poland, the Polish border guards pointed guns at them not very welcome there.

The statement of illegal invasion of Ukraine is taking toll on Russia. The war crime missile attack on civilian shopping centre has consequences.  Before the invasion, Sweden and Finland had no interest in joining NATO.
Today Sweden and Finland have been formally invited to join NATO.  


#377: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:41 am

So Russia finally gives up on Snake Island, likely after several losses in battle of 21 June. Of course, this will have bad consequences, both in political and military terms, like heavy weapons delivery to Ukraine by sea.

The war crime missile attack on civilian shopping centre has consequences

Video from inside trade center, from Ukrainian side: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYZp_IlqlrQ . It looks like more splinter damage, not direct hit. The hit was to factory behind trade center.

#378: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: mooxe PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:45 am
Direct hit.

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#379: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: JFFulcrum PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:30 pm
Ukraine claims X-22 missile. This missile have a 630 kg explosive in warhead (about 800 kb in TNT) . We will likely to see no remains of walls and roof, and crater instead of floor, and no intact bottles of wine, of course. The building mostly burned down, the process is in this video: https://youtu.be/jQTxbOmcWdY?t=343 , occasionally an nearly intact facade is visible. Such buildings, quickly build in 90s-00s, are very prone to fire, many of them was destroyed by fires in numerous disasters in ex-USSR.

#380: Re: War in Ukraine? Author: jakebullet70Location: Washington State / Kherson Ukraine PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:25 pm
For me... Last night was a normal Z-RUN, What I see as 1 or 2 AFV with the big 'Z' running through the city. Sometimes shooting shit. 30mm is SO much different them 12.7MG... Happens 3 or 4 times week (the shooting part.) (the running through the city happens every night) You all read the news, I see a VERY small part of it everyday.... I just open the window. My family is getting fucked.

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