mooxe wrote (View Post): |
What's Russia's estimate on how much it will cost to rebuild the Ukraine, assuming they win the war and take over the country?
Does it make sense to be destroying the infrastructure of a country you want to take over? |
paratmar wrote (View Post): | ||
No no no! this won't be our problem for a while. First, let the remnants of Ukraine hang around the neck and on the feet of their sponsors, but then we'll see ....))) IMHO. |
mooxe wrote (View Post): | ||||
I dont understand what you are saying. |
mooxe wrote (View Post): |
What's Russia's estimate on how much it will cost to rebuild the Ukraine, assuming they win the war and take over the country?
Does it make sense to be destroying the infrastructure of a country you want to take over? |
JFFulcrum wrote (View Post): |
https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2022/10/25/sp-md-remarks-at-the-international-expert-conference-on-recovery-of-ukraine
- Ukraine already consumed 35 Bil USD of 'help' - Ukraine will cost for West around 5 Bil USD/month just to keep in place - Ukraine have absolutely no prospects of earn that money by itself in foreseeable future = irredeemable debt for centuries - All the hopes are on Russia's sudden give up. |
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So the war is Free for Russia and good return on investment for the Russian people? How is this only expensive for one side? |
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Many decades of military occupation of Warsaw Pact nations against the will of local peoples also was not free. |
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This is extremely little money for the West. If if your puppet Trump has another Coup and America stops aid, many other nations in Europe provide aid to Ukraine. Or even foreign fighters whom volunteer their own personal $. |
Bungarra wrote (View Post): |
As far as Russias economy is concerned ISW had this in their report today.....
Russian force generation efforts combined with Western sanctions are having long-term damaging effects on the Russian economy, as ISW has previously forecasted. Financial experts told Reuters that the Kremlin will face a budget deficit that will “drain Moscow’s reserves to their lowest level in years” due to projected decreases in energy revenue, sanctions, and the cost of Russian mobilization.[1] One expert predicted that payouts to mobilized men including social benefits may cost the Kremlin between 900 billion rubles and three trillion rubles (around $14.6-$32.4 billion) in the next six months. The number does not account for payouts to other categories of servicemen within the Russian forces such as BARS (Combat Army Reserve), volunteer battalions, and the long-term commitment to veterans' payments to contract servicemen, volunteers, non-military specialists who moved to occupied territories, and proxy fighters.[2] ISW previously estimated that one volunteer battalion of 400 servicemen costs Russia at least $1.2 million per month excluding enlistment bonuses and special payments for military achievements.[3] The Kremlin is continuing to rely heavily on financially incentivizing Russians to fight in Ukraine, which will likely continue to strain the Russian economy for decades. Russian officials have been promising salaries to volunteers and mobilized men that are more than twice the average Russian civilian salary before and during Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.[4] The Kremlin has been attempting to deflect part of the cost of the force generation effort onto Russian federal subjects but will likely need to tap into the federal budget more heavily soon. United Russia Party Secretary Andrey Turchak, for example, stated that Russian servicemen from all regions must receive uniform benefits and noted that the federal government must cover the difference if the federal subject is unable to fully compensate all participants of the “special military operation.”[5] Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) Head Denis Pushilin even acknowledged that there are insufficient measures in place to support mobilized personnel and their families in occupied Donetsk Oblast during a United Russia meeting.[6] The Kremlin is already facing challenges in delivering promised compensation, challenges that are increasing social tensions within Russian society. Russian Telegram channels released footage of mobilized men in Ulyanovsk protesting payment issues.[7] Other footage from the Chuvashia Republic shows a presumably Russian local official yelling at protesting mobilized men that she had not promised them a payment of 300,000 rubles (about $4,860).[8] Families of mobilized men publicly complained to Voronezh Oblast Governor Alexander Guseyev that they have not received promised compensation of 120,000 rubles (about $1,945).[9] The Kremlin will need to continue to pay what it has promised to maintain societal control and some resemblance of morale among Russia’s ad hoc collection of forces. ISW has also reported that the Kremlin is igniting conflict within Russian military formations amalgamated from different sources by offering different payments, benefits, and treatment.[10] Social media footage from October 31, for example, showed a physical fight between contract servicemen and mobilized men reportedly over personal belongings and military equipment. All may not be as well as you think on the home front..... |
paratmar wrote (View Post): | ||
No no no! this won't be our problem for a while. First, let the remnants of Ukraine hang around the neck and on the feet of their sponsors, but then we'll see ....))) IMHO. |
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You are seeing this from the lenses of Russian State Media propaganda which indoctrinates the Russian people (at least about 50% that believe the lies). When Putin financed Viktor Yanukovych regime including payments for political consultation from American Paul Mannafort that is not double standard? You do realize that Paul Mannafort was Trump's official 2016 campaign manager and received salary from Putin of $400,000 USD per year. This is a fact. So the pro-Putin puppet regime controlled by Yankukovych also had American sponsors paid for by Russian Government. Also it is quiet obvious that Putin attempts to copy-cat American extremist talking points. Putin copies Tucker Carlson's culture war, disinformation and victimization memes. Putin repeats culture war talking points to blame Russia's opponents on Transgenders and especially on alleged "cancel culture". Complete rubbish, Transgender people account for less than 1% of population. The vast majority of the west still have traditional values. If Putin rounded up the 1% oftransgender peoples in Ukraine and Russia combined and killed or imprisoned them all, then whom could Putin blame for all his problems??? |
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When Putin financed Viktor Yanukovych regime including payments for political consultation from American Paul Mannafort that is not double standard? You do realize that Paul Mannafort was Trump's official 2016 campaign manager and received salary from Putin of $400,000 USD per year. This is a fact. So the pro-Putin puppet regime controlled by Yankukovych also had American sponsors paid for by Russian Government. |
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