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#1: Pack to collect maps, scenarios, mod, and stuffs for CCMT Author: stratwegLocation: France PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 7:30 pm
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Hi gentlemen,

I recently bought CCMT Close combat modern tactic (GOG version), and this old game is a very good CC opus.

But I noticed that old mods, maps and scenarios download links on forums (CC series, Matrix forum, etc) were broken

I plane to create a “public pack” for CCMT community players,  that would contain all awailable maps and scenarios (or mod if possible) to be used with CCMT.

When all files will be collected, I will upload this pack on a public servor like Mediafire (that allows large downloadable files) : Then, all players would be able to get them.

Please : If you have maps, scenarios, mod for CCMT that are not on the Close combat series website,  contact me by PM (private message) here.

Thanks for attention Wink


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#2: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: mooxe PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:10 pm
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Which links are broken?

You can get to the CCMT mods direct @ http://www.closecombatseries.net/downloads/ccmt/

#3: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: stratwegLocation: France PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:18 pm
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Thanks for the links, but these links are not concerned by my post : The broken links I said are in forums (included matrix forums). I did read all posts about CCMT here and on matrix forums, and in messages, I noticed that lot of a links were broken (sample : in some posts, there are allusions to large maps 4km x 1 km in a special pack, but this pack seems unawailable now on matrix site, etc

The goal is to get all files (in particular map files) that are not in download section of this site Close combat series : I think there is more and more files  than the only files wich are on this site (download section)

#4: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: ScnelleMeyer PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:56 pm
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Hi Stratweg, I appreciate the initiative to help players find mods for this game. On this link is some maps and other stuff: http://ftp.us.matrixgames.com/pub/CloseCombatModernTactics/

#5: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: stratwegLocation: France PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:43 pm
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Thanks a lot, ScnelleMeyer : It's a treasure you have given !  Razz  Razz  

I will download all this great stuff, seems that my next nights will be very short, my CCMT teams will run Wink

#6: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: ScnelleMeyer PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:35 pm
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I am uploading all my archive of CCMT stuff - mods, maps and files to this Mediafire link: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/kekic1c93kj7j/CCMT

#7: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: stratwegLocation: France PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:39 am
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Thanks a lot for these files Razz

#8: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: ScnelleMeyer PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:44 am
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You are very welcome stratweg. I have some more that will be uploaded after being worked over a bit more. If you are interested in going H2H in CCMT I am definately in. There are more guys on Discord that would participate in a 3v3 or even more.

#9: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: stratwegLocation: France PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:03 am
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Hi,

I thought initially I would have no time for human vs human play, but finally, I have.
I am interrested, but take care please : I have very (very very Rolling Eyes )  poor knowledg in "technical informations" about mutliplayers, discord, etc


And if you have some other stuffs and files, would be great to get them  Razz

#10: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: ScnelleMeyer PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:08 am
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Awesome - Its really simple to set up for multiplayer and we have a great community where all are willing to help:)

#11: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: stratwegLocation: France PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:51 pm
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A question, please : I am collecting in all CC opus and in all mods a lot of square maps that work in CCMT (only CC "square" maps work in CCMT)

At this time, I have more than 50  maps that work in CCMT without any technical modification, and it is not finished (except for CC PITF and GTC : maps of these opus dont't work with CCMT, they do not appears in editor screen)


Alle these maps are :
1/ In the vanilla installation of games (included RtB)
2/ In published mods

I think it would usefull for CCMT players to have these square maps (and only square maps) in one unic pack.

But the problem is : do I have the right to share this kind of pack ?

#12: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: ScnelleMeyer PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:10 pm
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Sure, just share them. - Mods are free by definition and nobody cares if you share the RtB maps. A mod was even made with all maps, graphics etc of Pitf to work in GtC - Matrix didnt care.

#13: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: stratwegLocation: France PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:41 pm
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Ok, thanks. I will continue the collect. Number of maps that are working with CCMT is impressive : probably more than 50/60 maps for all opus (but curiously, square maps of GTC and PITF do not appears in editor screen of CCMT. I tried to c hange the names and the result is the same. Perhaps, the map system of GTC/PITF is too different).

I just collect the square maps because I do not want to  began work in map converting : It seems need very hard/long work. And in addition, maps that are not square are a little small for playing CCMT in my opinion : no regrets.


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#14: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: stratwegLocation: France PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:49 am
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Attached are the txt of a provisary list of square maps that work in CCMT : actually, approx. 120 square maps

Collecting work is not finished and will continue (more will be added, probably 50/60 additive maps)

When list will be complete, I will share it, and after that I will try to upload these maps on mediafire (if possible because the pack will be very large)

At the end, CCMT will have approx 180 maps to be used with



Size of attached files is limited to 2 Mo = reason for what there are 3 list files

Question for ScnelleMeyer, please :
Other question : Have you any other collected reserve files that are not uploaded in your mediafire page ? If yen, would be great to add them



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#15: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: ScnelleMeyer PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:52 pm
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The maps of PITF/GTC will not show up in CCMT without conversion. I have posted guides to convert these maps both in the modding forums here and on Matrix forums. This is because 1. they are 32-bit .tga and not 16.bit tga like the older games. 2. They have a different scale of the coding than the older releases.

Its very easy and quick to make any map square with 5CC or CC2Tools.

When you find different maps - I hope you are aware that coding data is different between games. So many will have to be converted using a terrain elements translation table in CC2 tools or 5cc. Other wise a grass field might show up as a wall ingame.

I probably have some maps that are not uploaded, but they are found on the Matrix ftp that I posted the link to earlier. I also have a couple of mods that I have been working on, but I will not release them yet.

#16: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: stratwegLocation: France PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:16 pm
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Damned : too bad...   Confused  It is the confirmation of my opinion : Dev hate players and they do all  things to martyrise them  Cool


I also noticed that one or two maps are corrupted

But I hope to have at leat, for the 180 maps awailable, 10 or 20 that will work correctly (I began to examine maps and I saw that some work perfect with correct values and graphs)

Ok for the Ftp Matrix link, thanks.

Concerning maping work : probably easy for you, with experience. But I saw in CC5 and CC2 that are a lot of complexe (and a little bit obscure) functions : difficult to understand what you do with these tool, in particular when you do not understand very well english language (and lack of time to learn these tools). More quick is to search in the entire download section 10 or 20 square maps that work correctly with CCMT

#17: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: ScnelleMeyer PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:43 pm
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My experience came with a lot of trial and error - so it was bu no means easy or quick - and neither is most wothwhile modding projects.

#18: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: stratwegLocation: France PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:34 am
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One question about maps, please

Collecting maps for CCMT, I noticed that some maps have 5 files, some have 6 files and some have 7 files

What means the externsions of the map files ? (= what is the content of the files maps)


BGM = ?
BTD = ?
LOS = Lines of sight in the map
MMM = ?
OVM= Contour lines on "unzoom map" (cf OVM mod)
RFM = ?
TXT = txt

#19: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: ScnelleMeyer PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 12:05 pm
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You find that all of these are explained in detail in the documentation manual for 5CC.

#20: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: stratwegLocation: France PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 1:10 pm
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I founded no  any informations in the manuel about extensions of the map files => I need technical information.

The interest for me is to know why some maps have (by sample) a BTD file, and why some other maps have no BTD file, etc

In other terms, what is the global content/interest in :
BGM files = ?
BTD files = ?
MMM files = ?
RFM files = ?

#21: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: ScnelleMeyer PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:04 pm
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Then you didnt really try. Its litteraly written within the first 4 pages! .btd files are only for games that have a stratmap and its a textfile for the later games that sets positions and points of victory locations. For CCMT .btd files are not needed.

#22: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: stratwegLocation: France PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 3:44 pm
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The pb with the manuel is that I use french manuel for CC5 and these informations are not in

I searched in the entire english manuel without find : in no any part of the english manuel, there is a section that gives informations about extensions of the map files (I also searched the termes ".btd" with the "search function" and I found nothing.

You seem read english perfect, but it's not my case : I did not learn it in school and all I know of english was learned after school (due to the use of english wargames Mr. Green ), it's very hard to read an entire manuel to get one little information lost in 70 pages of english language, that is at essentiel like obscure chinese for me Rolling Eyes

Ok for BTD.

The question is now for other extensions :

BGM
RFM
MMM

#23: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: stratwegLocation: France PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 4:37 pm
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Searching maps for CCMT, I founded a very wonderfull and large square map (90x90) with modern airport, that works perfect in CCMT to create interessant scenarios


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#24: Re: Project of pack to collect maps, scenarios & mod for Author: stratwegLocation: France PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:50 pm
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Here is the complete list of 30 square maps that are full playable in CCMT

These maps are extracted from the RedStormRising mod (mod for CC5), downloadable here :

http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=1263
 
You have just to download the mod and get the files of the concerned maps : there are 7 files for each map (files with extensions txt, bgm, mmm, rfm, ovm, los). Files with extension btd are not  needed but you may get them if you want (they have no effect in CCMT)

Files must be placed in the "MAPS" directory of CCMT


These 30 maps are directly playable in CCMT without any modding work

Other maps of the mod are not square maps and will not work in CCMT without be resized with specific tools

The one I uploaded image in previous post (modern airport map) is the Mueritz map



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#25: Shared web doc about CC Author: stratwegLocation: France PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:33 am
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Time is now to share the stuff I collected.

I begin first with the documentation : In my MEDIAFIRE Account, you will find a great amount of interessant and usefull pages from :

* Close Combat Series : a little espace where crazy close combats users  and modders play a very Twisted Evil  old game
* Matrix CC forums

The registered pages are in html format (not complete page, just html).

But with the content text of these html pages and name of authors of posts, you will be able to find exactly the complete page directly on internet if needed (using search process in CC Series or in Matrix forum, or Google, or following the list of post in account of users if you are logged in CC series or MATRIX forums)


All the html pages are classified by great categories (in directories  by alphabetic index)

I had no enough time to read all theses CC pages, I just refer me to them when I encounter a pb : so, experimented specialists like Schnellemeyer, please excuse me if I ask sometime for questions that are solved in this large web collection  Wink

LINK TO DOWNLOAD THE COMPLETE CC WEB PAGES COLLECTION (all CC opus are concerned)
Link moved to the new thread dedicaded to this page collection
http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=94754#94754


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#26: Re: Pack to collect maps, scenarios, mod, and all stuffs for Author: stratwegLocation: France PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:44 am
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I will some later upload the maps I collected.

At this time, I have just collected square maps for CCMT
But if I have success in my attempts to resize maps (with help of Schnellemeyer Wink ), I will collect all also "no square maps"

For this project, I need some informations by specialists, please:

What are the maps (square or not square : not important for the question) opus that do not need any recoding to work with CCMT or maps that need recoding  ? Because my intention is to classifiy maps in 2 cathegories : map that work without any recoding (because work not needed or already being made), and maps that need recoding : by this classification method, users may in few secunds if the maps are immediatly usable to be played in CCMT;

And in a second time, I will do "sub classification" for map that do not need any recoding :
1/ Square maps (at origin) or resized to be square
2/ Maps that need to be resized with tools (CC2 Tool or CC5 Tool)

And in this last case, the thread here :
http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=12428
wil be very usefull for beginners (like me Rolling Eyes  ) in resizing maps work who want to be able to resize quicly their prefered maps


Road to Baghdad (RTB) = ?
CC5 (Invasion Normandy)=?
TLD=?
RED STORM RISING (RSR) great mod for CC5 Invasion Normandy to play Otan vs Russian war after WW2)=?
Gateway to Caen (GTC )=?
Panthers in the fog (PITF)=?
Wacht am Rhein (WaR)=?
Battle of the Bulge (BoB)=?
Last stand arnhem (LSA)=?
CC3 (Russian front)=?
Cross of Iron=?



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