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#1: MG German vehicles. Author: Dima PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:32 pm
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German vehicles that were used during Market Garden(and we found evidence of it Wink ).

Full Tracked:

PzKpw 35R(f)
PzKpw 38H(f)
PzKpw 35S(f)
PzKpw B2(f)
PzKpw B2(flamm)
PzKpw IIIG
PzKpw IIIM
PzKpw IVG
PzKpw IVH
PzKpw IVJ
PzKpw VG(Panther)
PzKpw VIE(Tiger)
PzKpw VIB(KonigsTiger)
4.7cm pak(t) auf PzKpw 35R(f)
Marder IIIM
StuG40G
StuG40G(late)
StuH42G
Wespe
JagdPanzer IV
JagdPanzer IV/70(A)
JagdPanzer V (Jagdpanther)
FlaKPanzer IV(Ostwind)
FlaKPanzer IV(Mobelwind)

Half-Tracked:

SdKfz 250/1
SdKfz 250/7
SdKfz 250/8
SdKfz 250/9
SdKfz 251/1
SdKfz 251/1(HMG)
SdKfz 251/2
SdKfz 251/7
SdKfz 251/9
SdKfz 251/16
SdKfz 251/21

Armored Cars:

SdKfz 222
SdKfz 231
SdKfz 232
SdKfz 233
SdKfz 234/1
SdKfz 234/3
Humber MkIV(captured UK AC)
PSW204(f)(Panhard 178)

Comments,suggestions,corrections r appreciated. Smile


Last edited by Dima on Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:34 am; edited 3 times in total

#2:  Author: PolemarchosLocation: Polemarchopolis PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:19 pm
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Hi Dima,

I think the following Flakpanzer was present as well:
3,7cm Flak auf Fahrgestell Panzer IV, Möbelwagen

serving with the 2.Fallschirmjägerkorps/ 1.Fallschirmjäger-Army (Gen. Student)

Source: Ryan, Cornelius: A Bridge too far, New York 1974

I think it will be a problem to implement this unit, since it looks nearly exactly as the "Ostwind" (both on Chassis Panzer IV(Ausf. F) with slightly different turret)- but it existed in 2 types:

Single and Quadruple(Vierlings)Flak... would be cool if you manage it

Another question regarding BG-composition:

Will the Kampfgruppe von Tettau be implemented in this mod?
You know consisting of SS-Training Personell (Hardcore Veterans)
and SS-Rookie (HJ-best of the best, but still children in training)
as well as SS-Watchbattallion, SS-Police(school), InlandMarineStormtroppers (SchiffSturmAbteilung 10) and some Luftwaffe Airfieldguards units?

If you guys need any help regarding historical research, I´m voluntarily in, since my modding qualities suck, thats the only thing I can offer...
thanks in advance

Polemarchos I.

#3:  Author: Dima PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:24 pm
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Great feedback, Malaka Very Happy !

Didn't have evidence about Mobelwagen;) although was told that it was there earlier.

Yes KG von Tettau will be in mod.

Yes we need any info u can gather,
contact me via MSN
dimafedorov [at] msn [dot] com

or mailbox with same name.

#4: german armour Author: Gunnar PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:57 pm
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http://www.marketgarden.com/new/frames.html

#5:  Author: Arvaker PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:27 pm
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Some more:

PzKpfw III L
PzKpfw III J

SdKfz 251/8
SdKfz 250/3

Kübelwagen Typ 82 with MG34

SdKfz 10/4
SdKfz 6/2

Gräbner's Panzeraufklärungsabteilung used Renault and Ford trucks in their assault across the bridge. These trucks had been reinforced with sandbags to give extra protection. Due to their importance in the battle I think these should be featured in the mod. Perhaps with some small arms as weapons.

Regards

#6:  Author: Arvaker PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:39 pm
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And some more vehicles:

SdKfz 251/3
SdKfz 251/5
SdKfz 251/10
SdKfz 251/11

SdKfz 250/10

SdKfz 7/1

Bergepanther

Schwimmwagen with MG

http://www.feldgrau.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11583&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=hohenstaufen&start=0

Regards

#7:  Author: Arvaker PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:44 pm
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Apparently the Humber Mk IV is a bit doubtful so maybe that one should be left out.

Regards

#8:  Author: Dima PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:45 am
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Quote:
SdKfz 251/3
SdKfz 251/5
SdKfz 251/10
SdKfz 251/11
SdKfz 250/10
SdKfz 7/1
Bergepanther


251,8, 251/5, 251/11 and 251/3 were special vehicles and their speciality can't be represented correctly in CC. So 251/1 can alone substitute them.
Same for 250/3 - 250/1 will be used instead.

As for Bergepanther - not really combat vehicle.
As for 7/1,10/4,etc - they will be there if there are free slot.
Schwimmwagen with MG - don't like idea of using such vehicles as Jeep,Kubelwagen,etc in CC.

Thnx for 250/10 - could be usefull:).

Quote:
Apparently the Humber Mk IV is a bit doubtful so maybe that one should be left out.

it was listed with HQ of 9.PzAA before it's charge on that bridge.

Quote:
PzKpfw III L
PzKpfw III J

AFAIK only 1 unit during MG that used PzIII - PzKp Milke. According to the photo evidences and research works they had M and G.



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