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#1: Maps Author: Buck_Compton, Location: Netherlands

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:52 pm
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Hey guys here is a list of maps i chose to include in to the mod.

Arnhem Area:
01 Ginkelse Heath (DZ-Y)
02 Reyers Farm (LZ-S) +
03 Renkumse Heath (DZ-X+ LZ-Z+)
04 Railwaybridge +
05 Oosterbeek (Hartenstein HQ) -
06 St. Elizabeth Hospital -
07 Arnhem Bridge +
08 Arnhem east
09 Arnhem North

The Island:
10 Driel ferry Site +
11 Polish LZ -
12 Elst -
12 Bemmel
13 82nd LZ north of the Waal
14 Fort Hof van Holland
15 Oosterhout +

Nijmegen Area:
16 Nijmegen Bridge +
17 Nijmegen outskirts
18 Honinghutje +
19 Hatert
20 Malden
21 Heumen +
22 Grave Bridge +
23 Grave LZ-O
24 Groesbeek LZ-T +
25 Groesbeek LZ-n +

Neerpelt Area:
26 Joe's Bridge -
27 La Kolonie -
28 Valkenswaard
29 Aalst -

Eindhoven Area:
30 Veldhoven
31 Eindhoven
32 Best Bridge -
33 Son Bridge +
34 Nuenen
35 DZ Son (DZ-W) -
36 DZ Veghel (DZ-A)
37 St Oedenrode
38 Veghel bridge +
39 Veghel +
41 Hells highway (lochtenburg) -
42 Erp
43 Eerde -

- = Still need better Photo's aireals and maps of the area.
+ = Map is actually in progress
= No info on that map at all

Now i have a request for all you guys; i need all you can find about the maps as i stated them here Aerials, maps, overviews photographs...all that you got hidden out there and can find.

Here is a link to our Combat Camera:
http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=115&cat=0&page=1

Cheers Buck

#2: Map photos for Market Garden Author: Nembo,

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:49 pm
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Heres a few hope they help.

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#3: Author: Buck_Compton, Location: Netherlands

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:59 pm
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Hey Nembo,

Cool aerials,

Scanned from a book or what?

#4: Re: Maps Author: robg, Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:02 am
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Hy Buck,
I have some pictures, taken from a book " It never snows in september" that may help you. How can I send them to you ?

How can I add them to close combat camera ?

Regards

#5: Re: Maps Author: Buck_Compton, Location: Netherlands

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:55 am
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robg wrote:

Hy Buck,
I have some pictures, taken from a book " It never snows in september" that may help you. How can I send them to you ?

How can I add them to close combat camera ?

Regards

At best you could mail them to:

remifrederix [at] gmail [dot] com or add this adress in your msn so we can exchange them trough there

Cheers Buck

Ps of wich places do you have pics?

#6: Author: Nembo,

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:59 am
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Heres some more I found after a quick Google search.

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#7: Author: Buck_Compton, Location: Netherlands

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:23 am
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Nembo wrote:

Heres some more I found after a quick Google search.

Cool pix

Lz-T. i'm using this actual picture for a map Very Happy

2nd pic is LZ-Z

3rd pic...if i know i tell must be in the area of lz-z.....

Keep up stuffing me. the more the better Very Happy

#8: Author: Nembo,

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:34 am
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http://www.arnhemarchive.org/frames.htm
They have lots of photos.

Last edited by Nembo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 7:24 pm; edited 4 times in total

#9: Re: Maps Author: Buck_Compton, Location: Netherlands

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:57 am
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Buck_Compton wrote:

Hey guys here is a list of maps i chose to include in to the mod.

Arnhem Area:
01 Ginkelse Heath (DZ-Y)
02 Reyers Farm (LZ-S) +
03 Renkumse Heath (DZ-X+ LZ-Z+)
04 Railwaybridge +
05 Oosterbeek (Hartenstein HQ) -
06 St. Elizabeth Hospital -
07 Arnhem Bridge +
08 Arnhem east
09 Arnhem North

The Island:
10 Driel ferry Site +
11 Polish LZ -
12 Elst -
12 Bemmel
13 82nd LZ north of the Waal
14 Fort Hof van Holland
15 Oosterhout +

Nijmegen Area:
16 Nijmegen Bridge +
17 Nijmegen outskirts
18 Honinghutje +
19 Hatert
20 Malden
21 Heumen +
22 Grave Bridge +
23 Grave LZ-O
24 Groesbeek LZ-T +
25 Groesbeek LZ-n +

Neerpelt Area:
26 Joe's Bridge -
27 La Kolonie -
28 Valkenswaard
29 Aalst -

Eindhoven Area:
30 Veldhoven
31 Eindhoven
32 Best Bridge -
33 Son Bridge +
34 Nuenen
35 DZ Son (DZ-W) -
36 DZ Veghel (DZ-A)
37 St Oedenrode
38 Veghel bridge +
39 Veghel +
41 Hells highway (lochtenburg) -
42 Erp
43 Eerde -

- = Still need better Photo's aireals and maps of the area.
+ = Map is actually in progress
= No info on that map at all

Now i have a request for all you guys; i need all you can find about the maps as i stated them here Aerials, maps, overviews photographs...all that you got hidden out there and can find.

Here is a link to our Combat Camera:
http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=115&cat=0&page=1

Cheers Buck

Arnhem Area
01 Ginkelse Heath (DZ-Y)
02 Reyers Farm (LZ-S) +
03 Renkumse Heath DZ-X +
04 Renkumse Heath LZ-Z +
05 Railwaybridge +
06 Oosterbeek (Hartenstein HQ) -
07 Oosterbeek KOSB perimeter +
08 St. Elizabeth Hospital -
09 Arnhem Bridge +
10 Rhine Ferry +

The Island
11 Driel
12 Polish LZ -
13 Elst +
14 Bemmel -
15 82nd LZ north of the waal +
16 Oosterhout +

Nijmegen
17 Nijmegen Bridge +
18 Nijmegen outskirts
19 Honinghutje +
20 Hatert
21 Malden
22 Heumen +
23 Grave Bridge +
24 Grave LZ-O -
25 Groesbeek LZ-T +
26 Groesbeek LZ-n +

Eindhoven
27 Neerpelt -
28 La Kolonie -
29 Valkenswaard
30 Aalst -
31 Eindhoven
32 Nuenen
33 Woensel
34 Best -
35 Son Bridge -
36 DZ Son (DZ-W) +
37 DZ Veghel (DZ-A) +
38 St Oedenrode
39 Veghel bridge +
40 Veghel +
41 Hells highway (lochtenburg) -
42 Erp
43 eerde -

A little bit of an update on the maps. The more i read about it and watch at the maps. the more i start thinking wich are better. At this point i think this list should be close to reality. Other than that i still need your help. as much and as details map photo's and aerials you guys can get me. From the maps marked with a "+" don't need any aireals any more.

Cheers Buck

#10: Author: nomada_lenin,

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:24 am
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hi buck.
i have "operation market garden" book by osprey military and have some air photos maybe you can use it

#11: Author: Buck_Compton, Location: Netherlands

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:46 pm
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nomada_lenin wrote:

hi buck.
i have "operation market garden" book by osprey military and have some air photos maybe you can use it

If you have some good aireals or maps for me i might be able to use it Very Happy

Cheers Buck

Btw osprey books always have some good maps included does this one have them too?

#12: Author: Nembo,

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:48 am
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Heres a website not fully functional yet but looks good.
http://www.evidenceincamera.co.uk/
Don't know but this might help also.
https://www.britishpathe.com/

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#13: Author: Buck_Compton, Location: Netherlands

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:00 pm
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Nembo wrote:

Heres a website not fully functional yet but looks good.
http://www.evidenceincamera.co.uk/
Don't know but this might help also.
https://www.britishpathe.com/

Hey Nembo,

Cool pics but as i allready stated before i have all the photo's i need concerning the arnhem bridge. no hard feelings i appriciate you effort to help.

Cheers buck

#14: Author: Nembo,

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:35 pm
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Sorry should have thought a little more. I'll delete any of the photos or all from the thread if you want. I have one of Ginkel Heath (DZ-Y) its sort of hard to tell where the DZ is because of fires and the fact that the photo was taken just minutes before the paratroopers landed. Do you want it?

#15: Author: Buck_Compton, Location: Netherlands

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:59 pm
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Nembo wrote:

Sorry should have thought a little more. I'll delete any of the photos or all from the thread if you want. I have one of Ginkel Heath (DZ-Y) its sort of hard to tell where the DZ is because of fires and the fact that the photo was taken just minutes before the paratroopers landed. Do you want it?

Sure can use anything on this area. as i only have 2 photo's and still am unable to tell where they are made because of the heavy smoke

Cheers Buck

#16: Author: Nembo,

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:25 pm
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Here it is. Hope it helps.

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#17: Author: Buck_Compton, Location: Netherlands

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:59 pm
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Nembo wrote:

Here it is. Hope it helps.

Hehehehe i got the very same one. only detail large enough to be clearly spotted with the eye is something i expect to be the railroad. other than that there is nothing much to see. but i find it a very nice aerial. we can only imagine whats happening down there.....

Cheers Buck

#18: Author: Buck_Compton, Location: Netherlands

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:59 pm
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@ Nembo

I Got very lucky. i found a book with 3 aireals from the ginkelse heath so that means i now have fully coverd the arnhem battle sector with aerials.

Cheers Buck

#19: Author: nomada_lenin,

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:16 pm
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hi buck
finally i could found my book. the pohotos are
x-ray landing zone and arhen brigde but you have it
nimega i think that this photo is the best you can see the two brigdes but your map is in progress. do you want it?
the landing zone in the sonsche area but i thi9nk that is the the same.

#20: Author: Buck_Compton, Location: Netherlands

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:06 pm
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nomada_lenin wrote:

hi buck
finally i could found my book. the pohotos are
x-ray landing zone and arhen brigde but you have it
nimega i think that this photo is the best you can see the two brigdes but your map is in progress. do you want it?
the landing zone in the sonsche area but i thi9nk that is the the same.

Lz X map is already finished. the bridge is in good proces.

Nijmegen. i'm still looking for some photo's of the area between the groesbeekse LZ's and the actual bridge.

Concerning the LZ's in the area of son. i have only 1 picture of it but it seems to pop up in a lot of books. but i'd say try me i'd like to see that one maybe it helps me

CHeers Buck

#21: Author: Buck_Compton, Location: Netherlands

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:28 pm
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Hey guys,

Small update on the maps:

I deleted several maps and i added some fe:

- driel map is gone an changed in to driel ferry wich is a map covering both sides of the rhine with the westerbouwing hill in the north and the driel ferry in the south. giving you the nearly impossible task to cross the rhine for one side to the other.

- made only lz/dz maps for arnhem sector the 3 largest. as i'm not sure i deleted LZ Z. so now we should have x y and s

- Instead of 2 maps from oosterbeek perimeter i chose to make 3; North South and west. covering the rail bridge in the north. the KOSB sector in the west. and the lonsdale force sector near the laagchurch in the east. 3 very diffrent maps wich should be tough to deal with but very satisfiyng for attacker and defender.

- in the island sector we now have: Polish LZ, Elst, Elst Approach, Oosterhout, and 82nd abn crossing. the last of wich shoul be very hard has you have to bring your man across the river and run to the dike and the small fort behind it. so you need to cooperate with arty tanks and inf to get what u want.

- nijmegen sector. i left out the 2 bridges at the meuse waal channel and added a map in the east border of the 82nd perimeter called devills hill. a fiercely fought hill lying on the dutch side of the border.

- Eindhoven sector. i made some linking maps eerde and eerde dunes wich the germans tried to counter attack the 101st. and lochten burg and koevering the 2 points where hells highway was crossed. also i deleted the extra map on the east of veghel to create some space in the stratmap. i also chose to add the best bridge in to the game as 1 of the 101abn rgt's attacked that bridge directly also i included a map of eindhoven and woensel where the link up between the 101st and the irish guards was.

- neerpelt sector is still the same: joe's bridge, la colonie nothing special.

hope to be able to upload some pics in the near future.

Cheers Buck

#22: Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:33 am
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Glad to hear you are still making progress...

#23: Author: Buck_Compton, Location: Netherlands

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:17 pm
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Tejszd wrote:

Glad to hear you are still making progress...

Yeah always trying to make some progress. it seems like this is the best choice almost all maps are represented by aerials and maps but i can always use some extra (NOT ON THE ARNHEM AREA!!!!).

@ Tejszd: Hows your meuse mod goin??? hope to see some progress in the future.

Cheers Buck

#24: Author: Buck_Compton, Location: Netherlands

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:55 am
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Hey guys this is the latest list of maps i'm working on. If there is any one intrested in helping me a hand with anything i sure would appriciate it.
1 Dz Y (Ginkel Heath)
2 Lz S
3 Lz X (Renkum Heath)
4 Railbridge Arnhem
5 Perimeter Oosterbeek West
6 Perimeter Oosterbeek North
7 Perimeter Oosterbeek East
8 St. Elisabeth Hospital
9 Rhine Bridge
10 Drielsche Ferry (Westerbouwing)
11 Polish LZ
12 Elst
13 Elst Approach
14 Bemmel
15 Crossingpoint 82e Abn Div (Waal)
16 Oosterhout
17 Waalbridge
18 Nijmegen Outskirts
19 Honinghutje
20 Heumen
21 Maasbridge (Grave)
22 Lz O (Nederasselt)
23 Lz T (Groesbeek)
24 Lz N (Groesbeek)
25 Devills Hill
26 Dz A (Veghel)
27 Veghel Bridge
28 Veghel
29 Eerde
30 Eerdse Dunes
31 Lochtenburg
32 Koevering
33 Dz W (Son)
34 Dz C or B
35 Son Brug
36 Sint Oedenrode Bridge
37 Best Bridge
38 Woensel
39 Nuenen
40 Eindhoven
41 Aalst
42 La Kolonie
43 Neerpelt
44 -
Cheers Buck

#25: Author: Buck_Compton, Location: Netherlands

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:27 pm
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Hey guy's

Small news update:

3 Maps are finished now

LZ-S
LZ-X
LZ-Y

I also made a new set of elements for the mod wich will also be used in Battle of the Scheldt mod.

1 Map added:
Arnhem Railway station (east end of arnhem)

1 Map (possibly) deleted
Neerpelt Bridge

This is because of the fact that this map allready was occupied at september 17th.....but i'm still in doubt about it

Data:
I expect Dima to start working on Data sets for OMG this week. Beta should be done by the end of this month

Cheers Buck

#26: Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:58 pm
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Way to go Buck!

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