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#1: Full Version of CC2 now hosted, discuss it here.... Author: mooxe,

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:11 am
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Full Version: http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=7

- Read the disclaimer 1st
- Post your thoughts

Last edited by mooxe on Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:11 pm; edited 1 time in total

#2: Author: Nembo,

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:46 am
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You already know where I stand on this subject Mooxe so I won't go on about that.

On the brighter side at least its a ISO image and not one of those hacked up versions from the underdogs.

#3: Author: CarpeNoctem,

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:50 pm
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I think this sort of action definitely falls under the spirit of fair use. I can not see any motivations due to money nor personal gain; I do see advancements in the community being the only motivation here.

In analyzing the 4 factors of fair use

1. This is not for commerical use. (has A LOT of weight in fair use)
2. The nature of the copyrighted work is that it's copyrighted and it's very old. (important I think that it's old. I would be screaming to take it down if it wasn't published yet [ex. Falcon 4.0 source codes] or recently published [as in those on P2P, in general].)
3. The amount 'taken'. The whole piece of software is being served.
4. Effects of potential market. (has A LOT of weight in fair use)

In closing, this is not for commerical use, it is copyrighted material and very old, the amount of material in question is complete and the effects of the market can only help the CC series. Given these points I would say this is fair use.

Best regards,

CN

PS. Fair use and copyright laws are in place to protect and defend both sides of the coin. In the past you, as a consumer, had the right to copy and print complete novels and pass out to whomever. Publishers jumped on board with this idea because a property of that idea was, 'who's going to allocate the resources to copy that novel?' In the 70's this was redefined and extened to include phonograph records, and the tapes were looked at as phonographs. Now that every consumer has the ability to copy and pass out thousands of complete novels, records, tapes and cd's, etc.etc.etc. Publishers are reviewing their positions on fair use, not to solidify the spirit of fair use and copyright, but only in their personal interests. Which 90% of the time has NOTHING to do with art or science.

#4: Author: CB_Recon,

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:46 pm
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I think its a great idea. It will only boost users and intrest in this community. thanks Mooxe

#5: Author: Troger, Location: L4W's place, Australia

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:37 am
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Definitely, thanks Mooxe for doing this.

By the way, Recon, would you happen to be KPB_Recon at one time?

#6: Author: platoon_michael, Location: Right behind you

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:15 am
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I like the idea because it is a game thats very hard to find and a few people do still mod it.
I wish all the versions could be downloaded without any grief.

However

I think you are taking an unneccassry risk by making it a free download.
I hope nothing bad comes from hosting it,it would be a shame to see CCS get shut down for trying to help out.
And if someone really wanted to use you as an exsample with legal matters the risk would then move over to your family as well.

And I hope this next statement doesnt get me blackballed but I have to wonder..........
Are your intentions here good or a means to continue to the flame war with CSO?

Sorry
I'm not taking sides,just wondering.

#7: Author: mooxe,

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:48 am
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Michael... its in the disclaimer I guess you didnt read..

Quote:

It is offered here on http://www.closecombatseries.net/ solely for the greater good of the Close Combat community, only good intentions are being carried out in hosting this game. It is not being made available for any ulterior motives.

The motivation behind hosting this game is as follows;

1. The owner of this software no longer actively supports the game or its gaming community;
2. this software is over 9 years old;
3. it is not available in the intended brand new retail form as it came from its distributer; and
4. many potential gamers are being turned away due to lack of availability.

If you as an individual of the community or representitive of the copywrite holder have a problem or concern with this game being hosted I encourage you to email me at mooxe [at] closecombatseries [dot] net with your comments and it will be answered to promptly.

This software will be removed from this site under the following conditions;

1. The current copywrite holder issues an order to do so; and/or
2. a considerable amount of valid, substantiated reasons regarding any damage to the community being caused by this software being hosted here are heard from the Close Combat community.

I know some people will want to report this to anti-piracy companies for the purpose of shutting down this server. Remember before you act on your impulses or own personal motivations realize that this has been done with all good intentions.

#8: Author: sample,

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:29 pm
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mooxe, it's a good ideea as far as it wont cause for you any copyright problems with MS; on the other hand the underdog site it has it for more then a year and it's still available to download.

here in romania, CC2 wasn't released on market and i was forced to buy it from e-bay uk; and also for me it still remain the best game ever, something like an ever green.

cheers,
M.

#9: Author: CB_Recon,

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:40 pm
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To Troger: yes , i am KPB recon, and just bout every other Recon you've seen in the past on CC2 and CC3 Wink

#10: Author: Troger, Location: L4W's place, Australia

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:11 am
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Wow Recon you kept on playing CC2, good stuff. Check your pm's, I'm pretty sure I was the guy who brought you into KPB, just don't remember my name.

#11: Author: JagdBoy, Location: The Left Coast

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:25 pm
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okay as a newbie to the site, i just have a couple of questions about this download.

Does it differ from the original retail version (after patching)? If so, I hope there's been improvement to have it run under XP>

What is the term "ISO" mean. Now that shows I'm a newbie!!!

Very Happy

As for copyright issues I don't see an issue. they don't support the game anymore, they've given up on the franchise, and keeping it alive thru a download only helps to recruit future purchasers of their product if they ever do decide to revive it.

And hey, great site! I thought Close Combat had died a lonely death...

NOT!!!! :prostration

#12: Author: sample,

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:33 pm
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JagdBoy wrote:

okay as a newbie to the site, i just have a couple of questions about this download.

Does it differ from the original retail version (after patching)? If so, I hope there's been improvement to have it run under XP>

What is the term "ISO" mean. Now that shows I'm a newbie!!!

Very Happy

An ISO image file is a duplicate copy of a complete CD-ROM disk saved in ISO-9660 format. ISO image files are widely used for storing CD content and quickly transferring it through the Internet. ISO is a common CD image format for DOS, Windows (Joliet ISO extension), Linux (RockRidge ISO extension), and other operating systems. Undisker can create ISO images from CDs, open ISO CD image files, and extract files directly from ISO images.

once you downloaded the cc2.iso file, you could open it with the daemon tool (found here http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/download.php)

if you have problems with it send a pm or here in the forum

cheers,
M.

#13: Author: king_tiger_tank, Location: the Band and State of Kansas

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:16 am
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i have trobules with the download(i have an XP(worst computer in the world)).it will only take it as a compressed folder and when i go to decompress it. it says that the file is corrupted or invalid. what's wrong and that website link doesn't work Sad

#14: Author: sample,

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:36 am
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king_tiger_tank wrote:

i have trobules with the download(i have an XP(worst computer in the world)).it will only take it as a compressed folder and when i go to decompress it. it says that the file is corrupted or invalid. what's wrong and that website link doesn't work Sad

did you try to download an another zip file from a complet diferent site to see if your XP perform in the same maner ?

regards,
M.

#15: Author: king_tiger_tank, Location: the Band and State of Kansas

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:56 pm
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is it on different sites? if it is i'll try to find it.

#16: Author: Pzt_penguin,

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:40 pm
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@ King Tiger - All Cd images will come up as a archive, but if you get dameon
tools it should work fine. The other option is alcohol 140% a very good program for working with CD Images, but cost money.

@ Mooxe - I think its great your offering cc2 and I doubt they will hunt you
down over copyright infrigment. Big brother is really cracking down on stuff
like this espicaly torrent sites and its a lill worse if its on your own server. example
The ppl that house your server might unplug you if they find out. IMO maybe you should offer it as a Bittorrent file. I know bittorent kinda sucks cause ppl
need to seed the file but atleast its not on your server. plus if ppl want it they
should seed the file thats my 2 cents.

#17: Help Mooxe Author: Pzt_Kami, Location: IRAN

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:54 am
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Thank you Mooxe for CC2 full vesrsion
Can you explain how can I download it and,I mean waht files and where
should I download.
Thank you

#18: Author: king_tiger_tank, Location: the Band and State of Kansas

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:15 pm
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it was a good idea, but i couldn't stand having to go through the trobule to find out i have to spend $$$ on buying a CD writing software. Sad

#19: Author: Pzt_Crackwise, Location: Switzerland

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:56 am
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Hey mooxe I don't see a "download full version CC2" link on the CC2 section of the downloads. Is the file removed?

#20: Author: aikmen, Location: Toronto Canada

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 6:42 pm
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I dont see it either, and I downloaded the Afrika MOD for it and I really want to play it..... stupid girlfriend threw out my CD.......... DAMN U TO HELL!!

Aikmen

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