Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:46 amPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:56 pm
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:06 pmPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:40 pmPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:07 pmPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:14 pmPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:17 am ), and haven't found any bugs. Thank you very much.
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:22 am )...will try to update it later.Maybe you could correct them and post them here?
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:56 pmPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:04 pm
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:05 pm Yes, it is a kind of beta because my computer crashed before all of the testplay was done 
I thought it would be nice for the community to play it anyway.
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:12 amPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:28 am
Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:32 pm| AirdefMike wrote: |
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Hej på dig, Mats!
Am I correct that this mod is still a beta? The maps are gorgeous and I think that for the first time the Finnish terrain has been modelled correctly although there are spelling mistakes in some of the map names and some have their Swedish names (the terrain was a nightmare for the Soviets). About the units: I've noticed that the modmakers have gone a bit overboard in the past with "the exotic" Finnish units and there have pretty clear mistakes with the unit names and unit compositions thus creating redundant teams in the battlegroups. But I like your latest name suggestions. You don't necessarily have to change all of those names but mainly correct the spelling of some units like: (key => as should be) Kivääriymä => Kivääriryhmä (notice that the Finnish word ryhmä means both Squad and team but there's a difference right?). Sotasalis => Sotasaalis (warbooty; however not all Finn equipment was warbooty). Panssarikohtaus translates as Panzermeeting??? so that doesn't mean anything in Finnish. I guess you mean Panssarintorjuntaryhmä = Pstryhmä = AT Team or AT Infantry? (Finnish Army is still crazy with all these abbreviations!!) A Tank leader would be better named like "Komentovaunu". ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BG compositions: (I've only played with the Finnish front line units so I'm into turn 2 of GC. That means I haven't checked all the Finn BGs) A normal Finnish Division (of 41-45 era) consisted of: - 3 Infantry regiments (each battalion had a machine gun company) - Field Artillery regiment - Heavy Artillery battalion - Jäger battalion or a Light Detachment - HQ battalion - Engineer battalion or company - Truck company for transporting stuff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some unit name suggestions (I don't know if they're feasible knowing the the limits of the game but here we go): Partio: A recon party on a mission would be called a patrol ie. "They're on patrol or patrolling". The scouts or recon teams usually come from the light detachment and ARE HANDPICKED men. So a proper name could be like "Tiedustelijat" = "Scouts" or "Recon Team" of 4-5 men (Long range patrols would be 8 to 12 men). LMG Squad: There are no such things as LMG Squads in Finnish army unless they're LMG teams (2-4 men). So a infantry squad possessing a LMG (Lahti or DP) is just ordinary infantry having a squad weapon. In game terms this could be medium infantry but for the moment I don't have a proper Finnish name for it. Sotka and Sturmi are much better names than the regular tank names. Räjähteet: Pioneer or Engineer squad armed with satchel charges, dynamite and grenade bundles. Jääkäri: The Jägers or Jaegers of the Finnish army (the name means hunter, chasseur) origins from a Finn volunteer unit of Jäger Battalion 27 (Royal Prussian) which was trained by the Germans during WWI and fought in the Eastern Front. They're not Elites as such but a crack units. Elites would be our Border Guards (Rajajääkäri) who are still trained to fight as guerillas. Finnish Jägers of WWII (2 Brigades, some independent battalions and the rest in Divisions) were light infantry riding bicycles or trucks/tanks in the similar role as German Panzergrenadiers. While being light infantry they were heavily armed capable of knocking out tanks and fortified positions. Really ruthless men in offense. The sole Finnish Armored Division was extremely well trained with co-operating tanks and jägers (that's why they were able to beat better equipped and more numerous Russians). Täydennysmiehet: Your normal replacements including new recruits and veterans returning from homeleaves and hospitals. No need to include separate replacement AT teams or repacement jägers as these would be redundant. Rynnäkkörymiehet: Should be spelled as "Rynnäkköryhmä = Assault Squad". No such team or squad existed as these squads were ad hoc teams for a certain purpose assembled from the companies. However in game terms this is your regular heavy infantry. DP: The Soviet Degtrayev is classed in Finland as a LMG = Pikakivääri. These should be in medium and heavy squads and with jägers. A LMG team (2-3 men) is a good fire support team. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some final notes: I know that several funny details derive from older mods and some foreign misconceptions concerning Finnish army but bear with me. Suomi smgs were issued larger numbers to the Finn infantry squads (2-3/squad concerning their role as the weapon was literally a meat cutter). Molotov cocktails are a thing of the past. There should be some but these were not the main infantry close AT weapon. Arm squads with some but add Panzerfausts, AT mines but especially satchel charges and grenade bundles (remember the Soviet tank losses were "astronomical"). When the Soviet summer offensive began the Finnish units were at full strenght and were not inexperienced while they trained new age classes to the ranks. Although the Isthmus front was "quiet" there was patrolling and sniper activity which kept the men busy. I noticed that you have given Finnish infantry unit the lowest speed ability. We weren't the most motorised army but we were extremely able to quickly bring units from different sectors to counter breakthroughs and such if there was a need. I guess the low strenght levels of the front line units simulate the heavy Soviet bombardments and air attacks so that facilitates in game terms the Soviet breakthroughs of the first week. Have you somehow modelled the Finnish artillery which excellent performance broke the backs of most Soviet attacks before they even began. And the German Air Group "Kuhlmey" was an excellent tankhunting unit as they are remembered warmly in our military history. Hope these help some. If you need other info just ask!! Cheers from AirdefMike!
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:48 pm
) The same goes for the Engineers.
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:42 pmPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:43 pmPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 9:57 pmPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 10:24 pm| Sapa wrote: |
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I dont think that Close Combat 5 can show you the units of the opponent if you doesent play with the enemy visible.....
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