Polemarchos wrote: |
culture of war analysis starts in the archaic period
thats crucial for the later development |
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So I guess the first wars would mainly be won by just having more "soldiers" Hence killing the men and taking the young and women for your own tribes benefit and ending your enemies bloodline. Simple tactic, but a tactic non the less imo Smile |
Polemarchos wrote: |
exactly, you are well educated on spartan society
One thing is wrong: Homesexuality in sparta was no that huge, in athens it was. Generally when you mean young boy by law he had to be at least 20 years old. |
Polemarchos wrote: |
Another Anecdote: The Thebans had a crack schock-infantry unit called "the sacred band". These guys had all sex with each other.the idea was that with soldiers developing a kind of love for each other would fight to the maximum to save their lives. Check the Illiad were battle often occured only to recover the body of a fallen or dead friend from the enemy. Todays comradeship is based on that ideal. |
Polemarchos wrote: |
The consequence was: West prefers face-to-face, while east specializes on hit-and-run, something you can see even in the insurgency tactics today in iraq. |
Polemarchos wrote: |
Look, just to be exact...
At the age of three they had to be able to hold a sword, otherwise expelled or killed. spartan children lived at home until they were 6 years. Then they moved into barranks for military training. the steal and survive stuff comes at age 18 to 20. Usually with 25 they marry a woman, but are not allowed to live with her until they are 30. Even here it was expected from them to leave the barranks at night to go sleep with their wives and then return unnoticed. Of course normal education was too an issue but they didnt concentrate on that. Homosexuality is still an issue because as teens and for a long time of 15-20 years they dont see woman. Yet this education made them maybe the most dependable soldiers ever brought up by mankind. Hitleryouth idea was based on that principle of forming soldiers too. and if you check battle accounts this nazi-brainwashed-children were extremly fierceful fighters. The difference: spartans were obidient to their soceieties law by being persuaded to serve them (logos) while Hitleryouth was just instrumentalized poor souls |
coyotee wrote: | ||
Hmm I think nowadays the hit and run tactic is purely born out of having no other options, Iraq did have a huge standing army afterall. And in the west during ww2 lots of partisans and resistance fighters used the exact same hit and run tactics against the germans, simply cause that was the only option available. |
Polemarchos wrote: |
if i am not wrong you are persian right? maybe you have some crucial stuff we havent found yet...otherwise enjoy the the faction descriprtions and the units plethora |
Polemarchos wrote: |
The mercenaries in the perisan army were one of the best soldiers of the time. Persians allways hired mercenaries, especially Ionian hoplites and inner asian troops. As Keegan puts it in his book the "The mask of the General" Alexanders biggest enemy in the wars against Darius were his Ionian hoplites who could block his cavalry |
Polemarchos wrote: |
Kami do you have any daty, vase and book pictures, historic accounts in english about persia that are not published in the West? Or Museum pictures of warrior statues? would help our generate accurate models for the persians. |
Polemarchos wrote: |
Also we need someone who can speak sth like ancient Iranian for a possible voice mod. |
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