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#21: Author: kwp,

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:41 am
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If you are looking for armor values that you can use in CC I can put together a spreadsheet for you of the vehicles I have included in my CC5 Operation Mars mod. The vehicles.adb file actually covers the entire time frame for the Russian front as I was planning on using the mod as a base for possible future mods. It took quite a bit of money for the books, plus time and effort to collect the data. I then had to calculate the CC armor values using an armor calculator spreadsheet that setup.

Or we could keep it simple and I can send you the vehicles.adb file and calculator spreadsheet but it will have to wait until June 10 when I return from vacation.

#22: mmm Author: ANZAC_Lord4war, Location: Sydney Australia

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:06 am
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@ KWP i think every1 would like to see that.
would well cut time a lot.
but instead of discussing ur cc data now.it may be suited to a later topic.
but we r trying to establish base models armour thickness and angle(not CC).
as they vary from sources.
ur sources would be very valuable,and also the type calculator u use
and the results they produce.

#23: mmm Author: ANZAC_Lord4war, Location: Sydney Australia

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:48 pm
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here is a q clone ini to help cc modders
for a long time and since reg cc5 was released
we have had to live with stugs,halftracks and so on having turret values.
this included modders making up values which never existed.
to make the vehicle work.
the cc5 ini here is the one senior drill posted in cso a few months ago.
i correctly identified and named col 119 in the vehicles file.
if any1 gets stuck on turning their old tanks with turret values
into hull only structures,let me know.

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#24: Author: kwp,

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:16 pm
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Here's a list of my reference material. Don't ask me to scan these as I don't want to damage the bindings nor do I have the time to scan all the material they contain. I have listed them for anyone that may be interested in searching for them, whether it be at a public library or at a bookstore.

"Soviet Tanks and Combat Vehicles of World War Two"...Steven J. Zaloga and James Grandsen
"Russian Tanks of World War II"...Tim Bean and Will Fowler
"Russian Tanks 1900-1970"...John Milsom
"The T-34 Russian Battle Tank"...Dr. Matthew Hughes and Dr. Chris Mann
"Tanks of the World 1915-45"...Peter Chamberlain and Chris Ellis
"Infantry Weapons of WWII"...Ian V. Hogg
"Military Small Arms of the 20th Century" (7th edition)...Ian V. Hogg and John S. Weeks
"Armoured Firepower"...Peter Gudgin
"Allied Artillery of World War Two"...Ian V. Hogg
"The American Arsenal" published by Greenhill Books, Lionel Leventhal Limited
"Infantry, Mountain and Airborne Guns" (WW2 Fact files)...Peter Chamberlain and Terry Gander
"Anti-Tank Weapons" (WW2 Fact Files)...Peter Chamberlain and Terry Gander
"Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War Two"...Peter Chamberlain and Hilary Doyle
"German Tanks of World War II"...F.M. von Senger und Etterlin
"German Artillery of World War Two"...Ian V. Hogg

And two versions of the calculator are attached (ArmorCalcCC.zip does the same as Armor_Calc plus it also calculates the CC armor values)

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#25: Author: kwp,

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:08 am
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Here is a list of some of the online sources I used:

http://gva.freeweb.hu/weapons/introduction.html
http://rkkaww2.armchairgeneral.com/
http://www.onwar.com/
http://www.battlefield.ru/

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