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#1: Battle of Berlin Author: thorbeer,

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:41 pm
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Does The battle of Berlin mod work as multiplayer?

#2: Author: Pzt_Mac, Location: Oregon

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:59 pm
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No.

#3: Author: thorbeer,

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:00 pm
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Well - I played the mod through and it was amongst the best CC5 ever. Are there any plans for developing the mod for multi?

#4: Author: Ryz, Location: Boston, MA

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:13 am
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what made it "the best mod ever"?

#5: Author: thorbeer,

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:03 pm
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Ryz wrote:

what made it "the best mod ever"?

Hey guys... can anyone answer my question please Smile

#6: Author: Sapa,

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:29 am
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I will try to make it multiplayer and Lan compatible...because i never tested it myself just made it for singleplayer..what is the error? Slowly working on version 2 but it is wery slow progress. My effort right now is to make Karelia 2 a perfect mod.

Mats

#7: Author: squadleader_id, Location: Soerabaja

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:50 am
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Good luck with the Karelia 2 upgrade...I'm also patiently waiting for you to release BoB 2.

#8: Author: Troger, Location: L4W's place, Australia

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:09 am
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Sapa,

Forward with the updates and please make it H2H compatible! Hopefully now you are starting to see how many people love the time frame of the mod and the mod itself!

VORWARTS!

#9: Author: HistoryTeaches, Location: Germany

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:33 pm
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priority to Berlin i demand Razz

really looking forward to play Battle of Berlin Version 2 !

#10: Author: MörserCarl, Location: Tokyo

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:50 am
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Both Karelia and Battle of Berlin are great mods, I would say. I've been through both of them playing as Germans, Finns, and Russians. My favourite, however, is Battle of Berlin and if it was my choice I would prefer an update of this mod before the Karelia mod. Anyway, Sapa will do what he thinks is right and that should be good enough for the rest of us. Great work Sapa!

One request for BoB: would it be possible to introduce more of the languages spoken by the various nations that made up the Nordland division?

#11: Author: Sapa,

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:02 pm
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Thanks! There is a Norwegian voice cue if you choose Germans speak English. I asked for help making Danish voicies but nobody answered. Maybe i could add French voicies ( Yes there will be PzGr Div 33 SS "Charlemagne" in V.2) but that means you have to flipp with the files in the Local FX. We will se what happens!

Karelia 2 is my favourite and i will try to make this one perfect right now. Sorry!!

Thankyou for your support! / Mats

#12: Author: jerjes, Location: Argentina

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:24 pm
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Sapa wrote:

Thanks! There is a Norwegian voice cue if you choose Germans speak English. I asked for help making Danish voices but nobody answered. Maybe i could add French voicies ( Yes there will be PzGr Div 33 SS "Charlemagne" in V.2) but that means you have to flipp with the files in the Local FX. We will se what happens!

Karelia 2 is my favourite and i will try to make this one perfect right now. Sorry!!

Thankyou for your support! / Mats

Ask Ironcross1 !!!

#13: Author: 4Reich,

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:12 pm
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Still waiting for BoB Multiplayerpatch.... Sad

I know many mods, but battle of berlin is my favorite, only bad thing is that I cant play it via Gamespy or Network with friends Crying or Very sad

#14: Author: Troger, Location: L4W's place, Australia

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:05 am
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4Reich wrote:

Still waiting for BoB Multiplayerpatch.... Sad

I know many mods, but battle of berlin is my favorite, only bad thing is that I cant play it via Gamespy or Network with friends Crying or Very sad

4Reich we should try to get together and document what the acutal problem is. I have heard from the beginning that BoB never worked in MP but never tested it myself.

It would be nice if Sapa or someone with Sapa's blessing could look into the data to see what's stoping it from working!!!

#15: Author: 4Reich,

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:09 pm
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Im cant wait to play BoB Lan h2H with my friends....plz Sapa get that major problem fixed, its one of the best and most intresting mod I know so far.
I only wonder sometimes why my Tanks very often get there maingun damaged after a few hits. Sometimes they even explode when they drive trough an stonewal Confused

But anyway, I love that mod!

#16: Author: thorbeer,

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:44 am
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Troger wrote:

4Reich wrote:

Still waiting for BoB Multiplayerpatch.... Sad

I know many mods, but battle of berlin is my favorite, only bad thing is that I cant play it via Gamespy or Network with friends Crying or Very sad

It seems as a good advice... Smile

#17: Author: Sapa,

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:14 am
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Is Karelia 2 playable in multiplayer????

Because i never play CC in Lan or MP its not very easy for me to solve the problem. Give me the error messages or other things, or else it is not easy for me to look at the problem Confused

Mats

#18: Author: abba,

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:06 pm
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Hey Sapa any good news on Berlin 2??? Wink

#19: :idea: Author: thorbeer,

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:58 am
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I followed an advise posted in the swedish section and replaced the CCResourceDLL.dll (BoB) with the origal(5.01) one (fileversion:2000.9.13.1 )

Now the multiplayer works Smile

#20: :idea: Author: thorbeer,

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:20 am
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I followed an advise (thanks Sapa) posted in the swedish section and replaced the CCResourceDLL.dll (BoB) with the origal(5.01) one (fileversion:2000.9.13.1 )

Now the multiplayer works Smile

#21: mmm Author: ANZAC_Lord4war, Location: Sydney Australia

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:54 pm
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thats excellent news if true
will make a lot of players happy.
well done.

#22: Author: Guest,

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:02 pm
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thorbeer. All kinds of things bug, when you change the .dll. For example, i could immobilize a Stug with infantry, and shutrmoviks don't work. spotting is f'ed up etc. So a MP patch is needed.

#23: nahh Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:27 pm
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Anonymous wrote:

thorbeer. All kinds of things bug, when you change the .dll. For example, i could immobilize a Stug with infantry, and shutrmoviks don't work. spotting is f'ed up etc. So a MP patch is needed.

No, has nothing to do with .dll...

#24: Author: thorbeer,

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:10 pm
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Anonymous wrote:

thorbeer. All kinds of things bug, when you change the .dll. For example, i could immobilize a Stug with infantry, and shutrmoviks don't work. spotting is f'ed up etc. So a MP patch is needed.

We play it in MP and it sometimes crashes. I can comeback later with some description... However its a really cool mod, still very funny. But an update is needed.

Back to fierce fighting Razz

#25: Author: Bombardier, Location: England

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:24 pm
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Just wanted to say how much I'm currently enjoying this mod.

Top work. Wink

#26: Author: Guest,

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:23 pm
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Bombardier wrote:

Just wanted to say how much I'm currently enjoying this mod.

Top work. Wink

Me and my son plays it MP, it crashes and thats very frustrating. But we keep on, BoB is really fun.

#27: Author: Sapa,

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:16 pm
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It is wery frustrating for me to!! When i made the mod i had no good internetconnection and only one computer. In the read me for the mod i can recall it is written "not tested in multiplayer or lan"...yes it is true, not everyone sits on a 24mbits line..

..anyway, here is the updated CCResource.dll file made from the 5.01 patch. I hope this will solve your problems. Put this in CC5 main and overwrite the old one. Just in case make a backup of your old file!

Mats

#28: Author: Mistmatz,

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:15 am
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Any feedback regarding this dll update? Did it fix the multiplayer issue?

If so is there a pln update planned?

#29: Author: thorbeer,

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:54 am
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Mistmatz wrote:

Any feedback regarding this dll update? Did it fix the multiplayer issue?

If so is there a pln update planned?

The mod can be played in mp. But it sometimes crashes to .exe in very intense fighting. It seems to have something to do with a "sound overload".

However the mod is really fun so for the first time I/we accepted playing on with the mod and try to avoid the crashes. There are also crashes when trying to hit "truce". This time as I recall the game just stop responding.

We keep our fingers crossed for a updated version though.
What makes this mod fun:
+ great maps and balance between rural and city maps
+ Overall good attack-battle routes.
+ Game balance between G. and R. Its really fun having the R. so strong from the beginning. There are fierce fighting from the beginning, altough G;s are weakened.

- to much of sounds and to strong.
- the German tanks need to be upgraded some, the Tigers gets blown up as P IV;s. Lack of armour and 88-punch.
- R. Katuscha/ air support little to effective. Well hidden G;s defenders blow up to easy.

Playing it in mp is really fun and a challange. Inspite of its flaws this is the best mod I played.

#30: Author: Troger, Location: L4W's place, Australia

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:19 pm
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Sapa I really think you should devote some time to updating BoB. Even in it's current state, which lets be honest is anything but perfect, people love it! Why devote time on anything else when people are so commited to the work you have done on Berlin?

What needs to be changed is not that much work considering how much you have already put in. If you need a hand I can do what I can, I have offered before. I'd be more then willing to play test with another devoted BoB fan.

#31: Feedback on mod Author: jdalton,

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:14 pm
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Although its late, for what its worth, I think this is a fantastic mod- great maps, lots of variety in the maps- much more than the original. Maps are very high quality too. Yes the crashes occasionally are annoying but I'm still playing this after what a year? johnd.

#32: Author: dgfred, Location: N.C., USA

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:50 pm
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Just started playing this mod, really a blast : Cool

. One thing I have noticed when playing as Germans is that the Russian vehicles will blow the crap out
of anything if that unit fires, but my MG units can fire the entire battle and
the vehicles don't really fire on them. Anyone else notice anything like this?

#33: Author: Pzt_Kevin_dtn, Location: USA

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:46 pm
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Hey Sapa
I think I've already posted a couple comments in the Karelia2 forum regarding interest in developing a custom Op for use in Multi Players Wars.

Within Pzt Gruppe, as well as many other clans, we like to create balanced Custom Ops so that our members can fight it out h2h in organized Wars. A large number of these organized events have occured within Normandy based mods such as GJS, UT1.3, SAS and Meuse. But I think we're getting a little tired of constantly fighting wars in the same Theatre and would like to consider other Mods and Theatres.

I am already attempting to develop a custom op for Karelia2 and will test it out this weekend vs my son. I assume the most recent update of Karelia 2.2 addressed issues for multiplayer play (At least I'll find out this weekend when I test it).

Getting to the point, I would like to create a custom Op using your Battle of Berlin Mod, but I'm not sure if it has been updated to allow Multi Player play. I've read about some quick fixes in several posts within this forum but I would also like to know if you have any intentions of updating BoB in the near future.

Nothing shuts down a Multi Player war faster than a buggy Mod. That's probably why we fight so many wars in GJS and UT1.3. They are sufficiently stable to accomodate a lengthy war.

Anyways, let us know if you are working on an update to this Excellent Mod and let us know if and when you anticipate making it available to the CC community. Again thanks for all your hard work on creating these awsome mods and for feeding my ongoing CC appetite.

Pzt_Kevin_dtn
Hauptmann
Pzt CC Gruppe

http://www.geocities.com/panzertruppen1/PztCCGruppe2.html

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#34: Author: dgfred, Location: N.C., USA

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:08 pm
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Questions about Katyusha observers and other observers. When you have these guys in the force- what exactly do they do?

Do they have to see a target to fire?
Do they fight like regular infantry?
The pic for the unit leader looks like a mortar???
Do air or arty observers work the same?
Give me some tips and stats. Very Happy

#35: Author: Sapa,

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:47 pm
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dgfred wrote:

Questions about Katyusha observers and other observers. When you have these guys in the force- what exactly do they do?

Do they have to see a target to fire?
Do they fight like regular infantry?
The pic for the unit leader looks like a mortar???
Do air or arty observers work the same?
Give me some tips and stats. Very Happy

They have the orange line as mortars (if i recall correctly). Does what it says calls in Katyusha rockets or Air-Support (with airplane graphics).

/Mats

#36: Author: Sapa,

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:54 pm
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Pzt_Kevin_dtn wrote:

Hey Sapa
I think I've already posted a couple comments in the Karelia2 forum regarding interest in developing a custom Op for use in Multi Players Wars.

Within Pzt Gruppe, as well as many other clans, we like to create balanced Custom Ops so that our members can fight it out h2h in organized Wars. A large number of these organized events have occured within Normandy based mods such as GJS, UT1.3, SAS and Meuse. But I think we're getting a little tired of constantly fighting wars in the same Theatre and would like to consider other Mods and Theatres.

I am already attempting to develop a custom op for Karelia2 and will test it out this weekend vs my son. I assume the most recent update of Karelia 2.2 addressed issues for multiplayer play (At least I'll find out this weekend when I test it).

Getting to the point, I would like to create a custom Op using your Battle of Berlin Mod, but I'm not sure if it has been updated to allow Multi Player play. I've read about some quick fixes in several posts within this forum but I would also like to know if you have any intentions of updating BoB in the near future.

Nothing shuts down a Multi Player war faster than a buggy Mod. That's probably why we fight so many wars in GJS and UT1.3. They are sufficiently stable to accomodate a lengthy war.

Anyways, let us know if you are working on an update to this Excellent Mod and let us know if and when you anticipate making it available to the CC community. Again thanks for all your hard work on creating these awsome mods and for feeding my ongoing CC appetite.

Pzt_Kevin_dtn
Hauptmann
Pzt CC Gruppe

http://www.geocities.com/panzertruppen1/PztCCGruppe2.html

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I cant say if i ever will finnish of Berlin 2, sorry! When i made Berlin i stated several times that it was not tested in multiplayer but it seems that people doesent reads the read me... Mad

I didnt know at the time how important the CCResource.dll file was for multiplayer games but i have posted a new version here two times for testing but nobody answered if i was ok and i gave it all up..

Same thing is with the single battle crashes, didnt know how to solve them when the mod was done.

Cheers Mats

#37: Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:16 am
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Hey Sapa,

Play some CC again and have some fun with the game so it doesn’t seem like work. Then as time permits make some small changes to improve things;

For multiplayer: start with the CC5.01 CCResource.dll and change references to German and American to Russian and Finnish with a hex editor.

For the single player crash: Make sure that every line in the original CC5 vehicles.adb that had a wreck has a wreck in the mod. You might have to move a couple of things but it is cut and paste. Of course the team file references to the vehicles will have to be updated but it isn’t that much work.

Your mods are great, just need to be updated based on the what we know today about making CC5 mods….

Last edited by Tejszd on Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:50 pm; edited 1 time in total

#38: Author: dgfred, Location: N.C., USA

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:02 am
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Sapa wrote:

dgfred wrote:

They have the orange line as mortars (if i recall correctly). Does what it says calls in Katyusha rockets or Air-Support (with airplane graphics).

/Mats

Thanks for the quick reply. Much fun. :hurt10

#39: Author: Pzt_Kevin_dtn, Location: USA

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:20 pm
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I think we all realize that BoB was created for single play and we respect your desires to design a strong single player mod. But there are a significant number of CC players who enjoy the mod and would like the added challenge of playing is verse a human opponent.

Is it possible to create a Submod for BoB that would address the needs of h2h play? That way if someone wants to play single player mode they can use the original mod and if they want h2h they can plugin the submod. Just a thought.

#40: Author: dgfred, Location: N.C., USA

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:33 pm
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I'm playing the Berlin 'city' Operation right now, very enjoyable Very Happy

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Situation is: Myself and a dedicated, some say fanatical group of officers have
taken over the inner city defences, Hitler has been 'disposed' of... we have
decided to save the city/people of Berlin against the advancing Red Hordes
until a truce can at least be made with the western Allied forces- maybe they will even decide to join forces with us against the communist and push
them out of Europe.

Already heavy carnage in the Charlottenburg sector (18th PzGr vs 12thGTK)
and Moltke Bridge sector (9th FJ vs 26th GSK)- situation is under control at the moment, but does look quite grim. Updates will follow if possible :hurt7 .

Commander dgfred

#41: Author: thorbeer,

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:12 pm
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Sapa wrote:

Pzt_Kevin_dtn wrote:

I cant say if i ever will finnish of Berlin 2, sorry! When i made Berlin i stated several times that it was not tested in multiplayer but it seems that people doesent reads the read me... Mad

Congrats to this excellent mod. Its the best mod I ever played. The fix for playing it on H2H works just fine.

For boosting the moral I recommend the reading of The Downfall of the 9 army by Niclas Sennerteg. (ISDN 978-91-85507-43-6). However its only available in swedish as I know.
The book is based on interviews and research on what happend the German 9:th army trying to stop the Red Hordes on their way to Berlin.
The storyline covers roughly:
"Oder" from march 3
"Seelow" April 16-19 1945
"Trapped at the Oder" April 20-23
"the last fight in Berlin" April 25 - May 2

Cheers/ Torbjörn

#42: Author: Pzt_Kevin_dtn, Location: USA

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:16 pm
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thorbeer wrote:

...The fix for playing it on H2H works just fine.

Cheers/ Torbjörn

Well my purpose for exploring multiplayer mode for this mod is to create a custom op to play in a clan war. But if it is constantly crashing in h2h mode, its not worth the trouble. As I said before, nothing shuts down a Clan war faster than a buggy Mod.

But Karelia2 is working great in multiplay mode and I'll have a custom op ready for balanced h2h play this week. It might need some slight adjustment but its looking pretty good.

Close Combat Series -> CC5 Battle of Berlin

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