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#1: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:15 am
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After Christmas I started my reading crusades again. I have always had an interest in the German side of the war so I picked up four books. The 1st one I am reading is, "It Never Snows In September." It is a Somewhat strategic, more so tactical, and primarily 1st person account from the Germans in Operation Market Garden. I am about 2/3's done and its really great. I was hooked after the preface. Graphic accounts of the horrible fighting are presented in genuine detail. The second book is, "The Forgotten Soldier" by Guy Sajer. It is an autobiography of a German soldier on the East Front. Third book is, "Sniper On The Eastern Front", by Albrecht Wacker. They are about the memiors of Sepp Allerberger. It looks interesting. Last book is one many are familair with, "Panzer Commander." I read the preface and it was very interesting. Cant wait to read this book.

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#2: at the moment Author: ANZAC_Tack, Location: Australia

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:37 am
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"TOBRUK" released this year by a sydney journalist who wrote kokoda, good mix of australian soldiers diaries, general morehouse and letters from rommell and stories from italian soldiers"barbarians from the colinies"as they called the aussies.

first half of book follows soldiers training,accounts, many humarous"british soldiers would see a MP when drinking, and hoof it, aussies would say, hay we outnumber them, lets hook in to em!" just begun second half, the hasty retreat over hundrens of miles to the 'aussie alimo,with a good ending' amazing how these 'bushmans artillery('cooks,drivers and infantrymen using captured italian guns/anti tank guns)putting old 47mm ATGs on sandbags and bricks,as they had no mounts! firing and picking up the barrell to fire again! killing a german general!(a GHW (sorry to pissed to get up and check names) something attached oversear who went into scout)

next is 'the great war'.
love xmas presents these days!Burp...oh and the beer presents are sadly gone...

#3: Author: God4Saken, Location: Melbourne, Australia

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:23 am
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G'day all. For Tack, I've started reading Les Carlyon's "The Great War", which I got for Xmas (Along with obligatory socks/underwear and (Thank God!) some booze. So far it is absolutely excellent and highly recommended. For those of you unaware of Aussie author Carlyon's works, this is his second major book, following on the heels of "Gallipoli". Both are non-fiction books that deal with the Australian Army in WW1, with "The Great War" focussing on the battlefields of the Western Front. It's as thick as a Chinese phonebook, and I find it hard to put down, but it is compelling reading (Even though I should be studying).

My favourite part so far is how Carlyon describes this Aussie soldier in the trenches in France who went out, got drunk but lost his way on returning to his trench. Winding up at a British trench, he told them that he couldn't return late without some sort of excuse, otherwise he'd be AWOL. So he went over to the German lines, threatened to throw a grenade into their bunker unless one of them agreed to surrender to him. One of the Germans did, but the Aussie was too tired/drunk to carry all his gear, back to his trench. So he made his German POW carry it all, even his rifle, although he remarked to the British soldiers on his return, that he'd take the rifle off the POW as the got nearer to the Aussie positions "As it might look bad".

"Gallipoli" was also just as great, both should be required reading by everybody here at CloseCombatSeries.

#4: Re: What are you reading? Author: ZAPPI4, Location: Belgium Liege

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:40 pm
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mooxe wrote:

... The second book is, "The Forgotten Soldier" by Guy Sajer. It is an autobiography of a German soldier on the East Front. ( A very excellent book, u ll feel in the RUssian snow uncer bombing and partisant in this book... It's very very nice detailed and really nice writted ...) Third book is, "Sniper On The Eastern Front", by Albrecht Wacker. They are about the memiors of Sepp Allerberger. It looks interesting. Last book is one many are familair with, "Panzer Commander." I read the preface and it was very interesting. Cant wait to read this book.

Actually i'm reading a book named " Les bienveillantes" 1/2 read and it's a good book ... Story of a SD officier during the WW2 on many front ... It's not the better i read, i prefered " Le soldat oublié" forgotten soldier.... But it's even a good book but really if u readed the forgotten soldier u'll get nothing more by reading Les bienveillantes, except maybe the personnal feeling of this SD officer.....

#5: Author: Pzt_Kevin_dtn, Location: USA

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:00 pm
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I'm just finishing up The Battle of Okinawa by George Feifer. Talk about intense and bloody battle.

For Christmas I got:
Not Ordinary Men by John Colvin - Based on the battle of Kohima (India)
Gate of Fire by Steven Pressfield - based on battle of Thermopylae (480 BC)

Not sure which one I'll start next.

I'd like to find a good book based on:
- WWII Allied Campaign on Italy. I know Rick Atkinson is writing one but its not finished yet. Atkinson won a Pulitzer Prize for penning a good book titled Army at Dawn based on the Allied North African campaign 1942-1943.
- I'm also interested in delving into the Napoleanic Wars - any suggested reading (besides Tolstoy)?
- I think I might go and get Cornelius Ryan's works as well even though I've seen the movies a ton of times (Longest Day, A Bridge Too Far)

Yes I'll admit it, I'm also looking forward to the last Harry Potter book. There I said it and am not ashamed of it. Wink

#6: Author: Dima,

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:46 pm
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Technics of industrial fishery lol

#7: Author: Uberdave, Location: Kansas, USA

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:55 pm
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'Frontsoldaten' by Stephen G. Fritz.

#8: Author: GS_v_Witzleben, Location: Spessart / Germany

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:52 pm
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"Erinnerungen eines Soldaten" Heinz Guderian

kind of biography

#9: Author: Polemarchos, Location: Polemarchopolis

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:39 pm
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Reinhard Gehlen - The Service (great Intelligence info)

Partisan Warfare L.V. Richards ( good)

Antony Beevor - Crete (am a little disappointed)

Aspects on Asymmetric Warfare - Nomos Scientific Study Group

I never stop reading those three, cause they are endlessly long:
Command Magazine - Hitler's Army Evolution and Structure of German Forces 1933-1945 ( 40 Essays about everything!) Everybody needs that

Percy E. Schramm: War Diary Wehrmacht 1940-1945 8 Books (1500 pages each)

Helmut Heiber & David M Glantz : Hitler and his Generals
All surviving stenographic record of the military conferences of OKW from 1942-1945 - Awesome book for research bought it in the US for just 18$
( i think it may be controversial possessing the last two in Germany, but i dont care since i use them for scientific inquiry)

p.s. Gates of Fire is an very good book!!!! have fun reading it pal... Afterwards
read herodot's histories to get a full picture of the battle

#10: yeh Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:44 pm
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Inside Hitler's Headquarters 1939-45, W. Warlimont - xlnt...

C.A Ehrensvärds books, and after his death his diarys is awalible.
XLNT - XLNT - XLNT..
Compare his wrighting in books "nice - but edgy" to his wrighting in his diary, his own deep inner thoughts, and train of thoughts. .. .. . ..

And yes, Helmut Heiber & David M Glantz : Hitler and his Generals its a xlnt book, i agree..

B. von Lossbergs book from 1948 is intretsing to, many plans he was into is in it. hard to get hold of though...

Stalk

#11: Author: Pzt_Mac, Location: Oregon

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:12 pm
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'Running with Scissors' - freaky deaky shit.

'The Principles of War' - which I am continuously reading.

#12: Author: pvt_Grunt, Location: Melbourne, Australia

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:37 pm
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God4Saken wrote:

G'day all. For Tack, I've started reading Les Carlyon's "The Great War", which I got for Xmas (Along with obligatory socks/underwear and (Thank God!) some booze.

I was in Borders at Chadstone with a gift certificate in my hand a few weeks ago. I nearly picked up this book - I wish I had now. I guess I'll buy it myself.

#13: Author: Blackstump, Location: Hunter Valley Australia

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:16 am
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Mark Urban's Rifle's (6 years with Wellingtons sharp shooters )

#14: Author: maedhrosfr,

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:50 am
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"jusqu'au bout de la resistance", its a book about concentration camp, 50 persons describe their "live" in this hell. a good book.

#15: how did i know... Author: ANZAC_Tack, Location: Australia

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:13 am
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Polemarchos.. i knew u would post about a dozen books! but we do it for fun! lol, no i know you do also ;o)

but where are the funny quotes, brief cretiques? 1500 pages dosent sound very fun to me...

i read about 30 mins a nite, sometimes i get a marathon day, like yesterday, 1 1/2 hrs at the pool, then 1 hour last night. love holidays, i can go a book every 3/4 days, aint it grand! but my new job has gone 'pernament' and there is overtime to the end of MAY! 6 days a week, maybe some 12 hr days...oh the pain, but oh the overtime$$$

#16: Author: yukongold, Location: Whitehorse,Canada

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:17 am
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The second book is, "The Forgotten Soldier" by Guy Sajer. It is an autobiography of a German soldier on the East Front.

Mooxe, The Forgotten Soldier is an excellent read. It has had a fair bit of criticism as to whether it is ficticious or acually based on Sajer's experiences. I have had a copy for some twenty years and have read it several times. My personal view is that there is no way Sajer could have described the events without having experienced them.........not so much in terms historic accuracy, rather, in his personal reflections. I would be interested in hearing your view after you have read it.

Read more about the debate.........

http://members.shaw.ca/grossdeutschland/sajer.htm

#17: Author: Dima,

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:30 am
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The Forgotten Soldier... well it was my first memoir book written by non-high officer, usually they were Chiefs of Staff, Commanders of Army Groups,etc.
It has shocked me actually...especially the part of their attack on soviet trenches and then soviet counter offence...well u prolly remember when he had returned with Mosin rifle instead of Kar in the end.

In no way to be used as historical reference tho it does content very interesting subjective vision on the events happened.

But well, i don't like memoirs since the time i've got access to some first hand/archive accounts.

Some examples:

1.Guderian writes that he met T-34 in september 1941 for the first time.
Actually in July 1941 T-34 were already in Kummersdorf for tests...I can post some photos of captured T-34 in June Wink

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2.One german tanker(who was infantryman, then tried to become FJ) had met tons of T-34-85 during Kursk offensive, he even describes how 85mm shell pen.ed frontal armour of his Stu.PzIV and killed everyone but him Wink

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Anyway don\t remember his name, had his memoirs as e-version. Gave link to kamf, maby he still has it...
In reality production of the T-34-85 has started in December 1943...

Not to tell about tons of memoirs that state that they were engaged by or were engaging IS-3, and some even write about KO 1-2 Smile

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Huh, while iam in mood i gonna post one AAR of first(documented) battle of IS tanks Smile

#18: Re: how did i know... Author: Polemarchos, Location: Polemarchopolis

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:54 am
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ANZAC_Tack wrote:

Polemarchos.. i knew u would post about a dozen books! but we do it for fun! lol, no i know you do also ;o)

but where are the funny quotes, brief cretiques? 1500 pages dosent sound very fun to me...

i read about 30 mins a nite, sometimes i get a marathon day, like yesterday, 1 1/2 hrs at the pool, then 1 hour last night. love holidays, i can go a book every 3/4 days, aint it grand! but my new job has gone 'pernament' and there is overtime to the end of MAY! 6 days a week, maybe some 12 hr days...oh the pain, but oh the overtime$$$

well actually the war diary is a kind of chronologic encyclopedia for orders and aar of the german army... letters are very tiny and it is indeed not easy to read...

mainly i check up stuff for my own interest or to help some people with historic data in future mods when i find the appropriate order...sometimes even exact data about mgs or AT is given, smoetimes nothing...

dont have a scanner here now but for example the books feature order of battle of the whole german army gropus s in 6 moths intervalls, which alone is fun reading... Also oil supply rates, replacements, organisation and similar stuff is given.

I wouldnt advise anybody buying them cause they are expensive unless ypu really need them for research... Since i analyse yugoslav partisan movement it was usefull to get the german evaluation of each operation conducted against partisans to check how they transformed tactics in the course of the war. The War driary for real is nothing you read linear, you search for segmets e.g which and how many division where threre and what supply did they have by official records minus 20% friction of war and are near to the truth. It is a reading back and forth with references to other handbooks everywhere.

Ps. Anecdote especially for Anzac-Tack : In the book AT-Stalky also praised about the hitler-OKW conversations you can get the exact amout of rifles and mgs the indian legion was given by the germans, something quite interessting for friends of mod feturing exotic units.

Also over 2000 pages Hitler nearly never uses the word Russians, he refers to them as "he", so it becomes a little strage reading. Ofcourse the conversations during high crisis times are read as if they are a bestseller thriller, so get rather this one..

ps.2. damn overtime, hopefully you get repayed as desired.

#19: Author: chocoleibniz,

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:44 pm
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Sajer's The Forgotten Soldier really is excellent. The author has such a descriptive, passionate style that he really takes you into the trenches with him.

The three bits I remember vividly:

1. The description of the artillery barrage. He stresses, then stresses, then stresses again, the sheer terror and indescribable sensations brought about by heavy shelling. I recently lived through the Israeli attack on Beirut and the first thing I thought was: 'Sajer, hey, I now feel more about what you were saying!!!'

2. The bit when they get some supplies in the German base after trekking for a while, and one of them breaks the silence with a hearty 'Oorah Rodina!' prompting great laughter. I laughed out loud with the landser.

3. The bit when they find a billet in some bakery and the description of the top bunk which was situated above the oven!! The sheer ecstacy after trudging through the snow!

#20: Author: mooxe,

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:29 am
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Sajer's book sounds great. I am happy its almost 500 pages. I am almost done It Never Snows In September.... One thing I wont forget is the description a German gave from the ground of the 1st drop of Polish AB troops. He goes on to say how the Luftwaffe swarmed a Polish glilder formation. One of the fighters tore into a glider, and as it was breaking apart in mid air, he could see a jeep, some heavy weaponry and soldiers just falling out of it. Its hard to describe what I think when I read that. I guess its just pure hell and mayhem to be in that situation.

#21: Author: Dima,

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:53 pm
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Quote:

One of the fighters tore into a glider, and as it was breaking apart in mid air, he could see a jeep, some heavy weaponry and soldiers just falling out of it.

6th AARR had lost at least one Tetrarch same way even w/o LW. Doors have just opened in the air.

#22: Author: RedScorpion, Location: Neverland

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:16 pm
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Im reading a new biography on Archimedes. Im still fascinated by him wanting to burn ships with big mirrors. Imagine if i ever worked? And he preceded Da Vinci with more than 1500 years! Those were the real masterminds of warfare Smile

It was also tried on mythbusters on discovery channel btw, but it didnt work really

#23: Author: mooxe,

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:00 pm
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I think they tried burning wooden ships with big mirrors on Myth Busters....

#24: Author: Polemarchos, Location: Polemarchopolis

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:02 pm
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on bbc they built an arcimediean claw once...

the claw is dropped over a ship close to the stone walls of the harbour entry and
then it closed his knifes after pulling the rope attached to a crane like structure. Effectively the archeologists managed to raise a trireme 10 feet high and then just lets it roll over. Imagine a devise that flips over ships full with roman inf.

if i am not wrong he also invented also the stone catapult variation.

His palimphest ( a byzantine monch erased archimedes diary and used the paper for a bilble around 1229 AD) is now analysed with modern ultraviolet light...

here is the page. it mainly about mathematic thought...unfortunately no warfare machines blue prints have been found..
http://www.archimedespalimpsest.org/

#25: Author: RedScorpion, Location: Neverland

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:58 am
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mooxe wrote:

I think they tried burning wooden ships with big mirrors on Myth Busters....

yep^^ and they failed, but idea is awesome.

#26: Author: Badger-Bag,

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:33 am
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I am reading, on and off

Churchill, by Roy Jenkins.
VERY very interesting, in that Jenkins both served in Parliament with Churchill, and was in high office himself, once Chancellor and Home Secretary of G.B. , so not only did he have access to lots of facts and opinion from people that knew Churchill, he knew what high office was.
His style is very revealing of the sort of pressures Churchill dealt with, and the aspects of his life that might not occur to a purely military biographer.

QUITE interesting how much of the behind the scenes dealings of the "Anti-British Empire" USA apparachiks went on during the meetings between Churchill and Rooservelt, and how Churchill thought that we HAD to have the yanks on side, so he didn't really care about the concessions that were forced. He steamrolled people that tried to hang onto places like Deigo Garcia ( I think DG was part of it, anyway, the possessions the Yanks forced us to give up before they would give us worn out destroyers to fight the common enemy of freedom with. Wink

) by saying the Germans might get the lot.

When you read of some of the cold blooded jockeying for position AFTER the war, by various "Allies", it really does make one think, that actually no country has allies, just varyingly murderous and rapacious enemies.

It is slow reading though, because the man was such a surpreme writer of English, each sentance has multiple thoughts embedded in it, you are forever casting your eyes back up the page, and re-reading something, and going Ahh, I missed that the first time. EXTREMELY enjoyable.

#27: Author: Blackstump, Location: Hunter Valley Australia

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:51 am
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good book... i like how they set up and dealt with joe kennedy

#28: The Forgotten Soldier Author: mooxe,

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:14 am
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I am 3/4 my way through The Forgotten Soldier. The authors descriptions of his experience are breathtaking. This is a very good book, as he states in his book that he lacks the knowledge to describe certain events in words, I can say the same about how I feel about his book.

The events he describes with Paula are equally as good as the battles. He already said he wouldnt see her again, but I keep hoping he does. This book has me immersed in the Eastern front.

There is controversey about the book being fact or fiction. It seems some of the book is proven fact, and some not - but not proven fiction. I know the detail in the conversations quoted have to be made up because nobody can remember that much detail.

This is a book where I cannot wait to read the next chapter. I reccomend this book to everyone who appreciates military history.

#29: Re: The Forgotten Soldier Author: chocoleibniz,

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:14 pm
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mooxe wrote:

I am 3/4 my way through The Forgotten Soldier. The authors descriptions of his experience are breathtaking. This is a very good book, as he states in his book that he lacks the knowledge to describe certain events in words, I can say the same about how I feel about his book.

The events he describes with Paula are equally as good as the battles. He already said he wouldnt see her again, but I keep hoping he does. This book has me immersed in the Eastern front.

There is controversey about the book being fact or fiction. It seems some of the book is proven fact, and some not - but not proven fiction. I know the detail in the conversations quoted have to be made up because nobody can remember that much detail.

This is a book where I cannot wait to read the next chapter. I reccomend this book to everyone who appreciates military history.

Ah Paula! You had to remind me of Paula....

#30: Author: Blackhole,

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:52 am
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Didn't read the whole list so I don't know if this was mention but The Beardless Warrior by Richard Matheson was absolutely amazing, I ended up not being able to put it down and reading it in a day. The author served in ww2 and wrote this inspired by that (methinks it could be his way of talking about what happened and use fake names etc., just a hunch) and covers about two weeks in December as the Americans are preparing to cross the Siegfried Line and advance into Germany. Worth anyone's time if you ask me.

Another good book I partially read (1000+ pgs >.<) was In Mortal Combat by John Toland covering the Korean War. Very detailed and told from a day to day firefight to firefight point of view that really made it easy to digest the abundance of data he put in it.

#31: Author: tripwire, Location: Florida - USA

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:53 pm
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I'm reading "Against All Enemies" by Harold Coyle. Just finished "The Bear and the Dragon" by Clancy.

#32: Author: dgfred, Location: N.C., USA

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:34 pm
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'Flags of Our Fathers'

#33: Author: Massivattack, Location: St Priest (France)

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:54 pm
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I remember a book named "Le piéton de Stalingrad" (The pedestrian of Stalingrad) by Francois Suliny. This is the history of a Polish man incorporated in Red Army as captain doctor because he had some knowledge in medicine...
A great tale that show how hard it was to be in soviet army

#34: Author: mooxe,

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:26 am
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Ok finally finished "Sniper on the Eastern Front" by Albrecht Wacker.

This was a pretty quick book. Only 178 pages. It is the memoirs of a German sniper. I liked it, although at times I wondered how much fiction was mixed in. This book probably had the most graphic depictions of wounded and dead soldiers I have ever read in a book. Also, the scenes descibed of torture and mass rape by the Russians was detailed. So detailed that it left me wondering if it was true. I can only assume yes since the book is non-fiction.

After reading three East front books in a row, my thoughts of them all run together sometimes. The end result is all the same though. Mass confusion , flying drumhead court martials, carnage on an unimaginable scale, and finally, fear of capture by the Russians. The endings of all these books were suspenceful. All the soldiers knew they had a better chance surrendering to the Allies.

Anyways, good book. Focused alot on the Gross Deutchland (sp?) regiment.

#35: Author: US_NIXON,

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:46 pm
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W.E.B Griffin Brotherhood of war ( sitll on the Captains )

#36: Author: platoon_michael, Location: Right behind you

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:01 am
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I am currently reading "The Lorraine Campaign"
by Hugh M. Cole written for the Center of Military History.

#37: Author: Badger-Bag,

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:01 am
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mooxe wrote:

. Also, the scenes descibed of torture and mass rape by the Russians was detailed. So detailed that it left me wondering if it was true. I can only assume yes since the book is non-fiction.

That's the problem with most memoirs, isn't it. We ALL only remember part of any event we see, failable humans in the first place, we can only see so much of an event because of limits like trauma, too much happening at once, and personal prejudice INEVITABLY making us look at any event we see, in a way unique in each individual. An American soldier (in those days) seeing a German civilian raped, sees a different event to a German civilian seeing it.

And in this case, obviously the German sniper couldn't possibly have SEEN the actual rapes and tortures take place himself, or he would have either been killed, or put a stop to them. So obviously he was reporting either secondhand reports, or on having seen the resuts, most likely.
Massed rapes did in fact take place in the East of germany, and it is pretty certain it was ordered by Stalin as a kind of warfare too, from all accounts. However, particular depictions of particular events in ANY work that isn't by either a Russian that did the raping, or a woman that suffered the rape, quite literally are secondhand at the least. Probably likely to be in essence perfectly truthful, but as you thought, I think, for them to be graphic AND detailed, they are obviously embellished after the fact.

mooxe wrote:

. After reading three East front books in a row, my thoughts of them all run together sometimes. The end result is all the same though. Mass confusion , flying drumhead court martials, carnage on an unimaginable scale, and finally, fear of capture by the Russians. The endings of all these books were suspenceful. All the soldiers knew they had a better chance surrendering to the Allies.

Anyways, good book. Focused alot on the Gross Deutchland (sp?) regiment.

What was the spur to read three in a row, mooxe?. Did you chance on a hoard on ebay or something?.

#38: Author: Pzt_Rasalom, Location: Brisbane, Australia

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:41 am
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Currently re-reading Willi Heinrich's "Cross of Iron"
Had scored movie off eBay so wanted a written refresher
Looking for more good recommendations....

#39: Author: squadman45,

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:11 pm
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I finish "The battle of Diem Bien Phu" Erwan Bergot

For the napoleonic era i suggest you Waterloo, Alessandro Barbero, very good book, "La marcha de la muerte" Christopher Sommerville cover the british retreat to A Coruña in 1809...... aaa "The russian campaign" clausewitz.

#40: Author: I_AM_LONO,

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:21 pm
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Forgotten Soldier - Guy Sajer

Frontsoldaten - Stephen G Fritz

Blood Red Snow - ?Cant recall Author?

All three of these are excellent reads for those of you who are into the memoir style of ww2 books. They are written from the perspective of regular soldiers day to day experiences at the front. Blood Red Snow was just recently written but is one of the best books i have read in a while. It is about a machine gunner on the eastern front from the time of just before stalingrad to the end of the war. As far as i know these three books are mostly factual.
: Cool

#41: Ya Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:33 am
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Pansarslaget vid Praga : juli-september 1944 : IV./SS-Panzer-Korps mot 1:a vitryska fronten
- Much good images,
- Good about the lend lease vehicles in RKKA, units they are in etc. Russ author, Russ angle.

And a Swede mil analyze (Printed 1922) of Gas War during WW1, statistic analysis, chemical-combat combined effectiveness, chemical descriptions, etc. VG...

Stalk

#42: Author: pvt_Grunt, Location: Melbourne, Australia

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:23 pm
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I'm reading "Kokoda" by Peter Fitzsimons. The story of the battle in New Guinea between the 39th Australian miltia and the 144 Japanese. It's a bit slow at the start, as the characters are introduced, but the battle descriptions are gripping. The author savages MacArthur and also Blamey, the Australian general but the book is mostly focused on the troops.

Also, I am landscaping my backyard so I read lots of gardening books Embarassed

- A sure sign of getting old!

#43: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:14 am
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I am currently reading "Debt of Honor" by Tom Clancy
And triying to buy "A Writer at War" by Antony Beevor

#44: Author: mooxe,

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:43 pm
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I am now reading Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka: The Operation Reinhard Death Camps by Yitzhak Arad. Its a very factual look at all aspects of the Jewish extermination. Coupled with tons of 1st person accounts and testimony from the Nuremburg trials. Its really really interesting.

The author describes how many Jews were taken from town, experiences of the train conductors, train guards, SS men. Just about everyone involved in the extermination process is represented here.

http://www.amazon.com/Belzec-Sobibor-Treblinka-Operation-Reinhard/dp/0253213053/ref=sr_1_1/102-3637702-8750530?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183311626&sr=8-1

#45: Author: squadman45,

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:15 pm
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"Salamanca 1812" Rori Muir.

#46: Author: Sgt_Baker,

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:44 am
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Hi to you all!

Does everybody seem to read only about war??? Lighten up, people!

OK, I'm now reading Niccolo Machivelli's "The Prince", as well as Brian Greene's excellent book "The Elegant Universe".

Good day!

#47: Author: mooxe,

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:36 pm
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Just read...

Soldat: Reflections of a German Soldier, 1936-1949 by Siegfried Knappe

This was a good book. The most interesting parts were his constant retreating battles vs the Russians, and captivity in a Russian prison camp. The part I looked forward to the most was his reunitment with his wife and two children.

The constant retreating was described as constant crisis. Like a running retreat while being attacked the entire time. Was very interesting.

Now I have just started....

Black Edelweiss: A Memoir of Combat and Conscience by a Soldier of the Waffen-SS by Johann Voss

Just finished the 1st chapter. Its about a very young honourable Waffen-SS soldier who has to come to grips with the war crimes other SS committed. He learned about all the atrocites while in an American POW camp. The book is also baout his time in Karelia, Norway and fighting Americans.

When I am done this one... My last one is...

Seven Days in January: With the 6th SS-Mountain Division in Operation NORDWIND by Wolf T. Zoepf

Looks good.

#48: Hermann Rauschnings book Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:27 am
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Hermann Rauschnings book “Hitler speaks” –Samtal med Hitler Swed edition 1940-
The book was written in 1937-38, by a defecting Nazi.
It tells about Hitler and his plans etc. It tells how he will make any treaty for the good of his cause, and he will break it with out hesitation for the good of his cause. Morale is not for him. He say, Hitler will make treaty even with the arch enemy the communist Soviet , but brake it when it’s in his interest and the time have come. Etc.. His wiev on diff people, and what they are "good for".. He describe the comming holocaust already in 1937-38 though it dint start untill march 1942, -20 millions is planed to be murderd-, "exterminated", slave labours etc...

I feel the book is not actually what Hitler told directly to Rauschning, rather information that has come to Rauschning from his friends or partly from meeting with Hitler.

I can really recommend this book, it’s a scary insight before the actually action begun, and its clear that no matter where Rauschning got the info from, he was well informed.

Stalk

#49: Author: diggin.robat, Location: Land of the krauts

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:10 pm
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W. Balck, Entwicklung der Taktik im Weltkriege, Berlin 1920 (Tactical Developement during the Great War) . A german point of view of the tactical lesson learned in WWI. Today scholarly reflections about the military aspects in depth are mostly anglophone, since in Germany there are very few interested in that matter. So you have to dig out contemporary sources. This book is a first hand account of a prussian militarian, who was an observer of tactical international developements before, during and after the war. It proves the german militery machine´s art of war and it´s ability to react to the envolving demands of an early 20th battle, something which caused the allies much headdache and hundred thousands of men.

Beside this I read the Canadian Official History of WWI (ebook) and Osprey´s book about Vimy Ridge 1917 and a german wartime account on that. For what? We´ll see...

#50: Author: HawkerHart,

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:13 pm
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Hey all.

New kid here Smile

Just finished Sea Harrier over the Falklands by "Sharkey" Ward.
Things could have been so different!

About to start: Tanks on the Beaches: A Marine Tanker in the Pacific War by R.M. Neiman and K.W. Estes.

Working in a specialist bookshop has it's perks Very Happy

#51: Author: dgfred, Location: N.C., USA

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:51 pm
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The Rise and Fall of an American Army (US Ground Forces in Vietnam, 1965-1973) by Shelby L. Stanton.

#52: Author: bexx76,

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:07 pm
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les lions morts

SS charlemagne fight in the city of berlin, no hope of victory, only fight for honor..

http://www.ileonimorti.it/it/schifferlied.mp3

http://www.ileonimorti.it/

#53: Author: dgfred, Location: N.C., USA

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:18 pm
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Now re-reading A.Beevor's 'Stalingrad' to get ready for pzjager's Der Kessel Very Happy

. Happy, happy, joy, joy.

#54: Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:13 pm
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As for international literature, I’m just finished re-reading 1) Alan’s Bullock three books on Hitler (all three: “A study in tyranny”), they still today they are so accurate, 1952. I do recomend Bullocks work.
And also 2) “The Revolution of Nihilism, Warning to the West” by the ex nazi Rausching, 1939.

Apart from international, on national literature the last relaxed month has given much time to read, the 1939-45 FM,s speeches (C Günther), a time travel as one read what exact is said when it happens.
And the book (written and printed as the winter war was in the midds dec 1939 -jan 1940) about warning of communist aims and plans for takes over in Sweden.

Stalk

#55: Author: ronson, Location: England

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:21 pm
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Little book I picked up just recently....'Hurricanes over Murmansk' by John Golley......first published in 1987...

Tells the facinating and almost unknown story of the RAF fighter wing which was sent to Murmansk in 1941.......dispatched there soon after the German invasion of the Soviet Union it tells in a very readable form the story of the men and the conditions in which they served, drawing on mainly the personal diaries and memories of the men involved.

What comes out very strongly in this book is the hospitality of the Russian people and the close co-operation between them and the RAF....something often blurred over or ignored during the post war period.

Recommended Smile

Cheers
Ronson

#56: Author: jerryheed,

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:15 pm
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Hans Von Lück - Panzer commander. The memoirs of Colonel Hans von Lück

#57: Author: crowleyhammer,

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:34 pm
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I can 100% recommend "iron coffins" by Herbert A Werner, its a fantastic book on the perils of U-Boat warfare during the last years of the war. also as follow up reading to expand on that you may enjoy "torpedo Junction" by Homer H Hickman, this book tells the story from all sides of the U-Boat war off the coast of America.

#58: m Author: ANZAC_Tack, Location: Australia

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:28 am
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Mathew Reilley:the six sacred stones.

aussie author, its fastm furious,quite often unbeliable, but entertaining! HBO has picked up on a book he read,maybe next year.

read all his books.

kick ass!

#59: Author: Pzt_Rasalom, Location: Brisbane, Australia

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:42 am
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Two on the go at the moment
The Grey Goose of Arnhem - only just started it
The End of War - Fair way in; 3 stories in one is sort of what this book is about:- American war correspondent; Russian hero in a penal battalion and a female german celloist trapped in the crumbling fortress of berlin

Pzt_Rasalom
21st PD

#60: Author: Tippi-Simo, Location: Helsinki

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:40 pm
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Anthony Beevor - Berlin 1945

#61: Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:32 pm
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Been much books latly, much 18xx, but on the WW2 front im reread Halders diary... Its a must read for any WW2 intrested..

#62: Author: mooxe,

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:41 pm
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I am off for another month long training ex. I am brining with me....

The Reason Why
The Bear Went Over The Mountain
Frontsoldaten
Blood Red Snow

#63: Author: mooxe,

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:25 am
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mooxe wrote:

I am off for another month long training ex. I am brining with me....

The Reason Why
The Bear Went Over The Mountain
Frontsoldaten
Blood Red Snow

The Bear Went Over The Mountain was a very easy read. Very plain and to the point. Basically a series of AARs of battles with Mujahdeen and Taliban. For the purposes of studying mistakes and learning from them.

Frontsoldaten was an ok book. I feel it quoted the Forgotten Soldier way to much. This book conveys to you the state of mind of a German soldier through letters and books. I wouldnt recommend it.

Blood Red Snow was good. About a machine gunner on the East front. The book was made up from his notes that he took during his time on the front. Very easy read and some very suspenseful entries. I finished it in less than a week. Kept me reading.

#64: Author: diggin.robat, Location: Land of the krauts

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:18 am
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Already finished: Charles Blondes, Battle of the Marne. Mainly french perspective, but accurate on the german ans french general staffs and their way of command and control in the early WWI.

#65: Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:54 am
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Hmm, been so many books lastly, ”Skåda Sovjetunionen i vitögat” translated to English that would be something like ”Looking the Soviet union in the eyeball?”.. Book stretches from WW2 to Cold war ends. Interesting to read more about the Soviet plan during WW2 to occupy Sweden’s north parts, rather “similar” plan as the British and French had when they wanted to move troops over Narvik – Kiruna in 1940 (to occupy Sweden’s iron ore district).. And some Swedish books, like Hägglöfs book Swedish trade during WW2, “Svensk krigshandelspolitik UAVK”
Apart from that it has just been “fun” books about National Economy, World Trade, and Tax Law, Free trade, Tariffs and non tariff trade barriers, and Finances and Calculations, advanced business economics… Not really that fun in compare to WW2..

#66: Author: Kallen,

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:57 pm
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Books I've read lately are...

Panzer Commander, the memoirs of Colonel Hans von Luck(Written by Hans von Luck, of course.)
The Rising Tide by Jeff Shaara
First Strike by Eric Nylund

And right now I'm reading The Assassins by Oliver North

#67: Author: Fitch,

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:16 am
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Currently reading The Steel Wave by Jeff Shaara.

If you haven't read it or it's Prequel The Rising Tide, I suggest you get them. Great, Great Read.. But then I've never picked up a Jeff Shaara book I didn't like.

After this one, I dunno, I may go back and try to Finish The Forgotten Soldier, or Through Hell for Hitler, or even Steel Inferno. Then again, I may pick up O'Brian's Aubry/Mautrin series again.

#68: Author: Popov, Location: Warsaw,Poland

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:09 pm
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"Diplomacy" by Henry Kissinger. A thorough analysis of what's been happening in diplomacy/war for the last 200 years. Interesting to see an outsider's opinion on big events in Europe. Very good read about how diplomacy can literally make an impact on how our world looks like. with a lot of maps to illustrate .

#69: Author: RedScorpion, Location: Neverland

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:37 pm
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I got Niklas Zetterlings new book called Blitzkrieg, a dissection of this type of warfare basically and its history... Got through the first chapters and seems promising.

#70: Author: Tippi-Simo, Location: Helsinki

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:59 pm
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Started today Adolf Hitler´s Mein Kampf.
Tried to loan it from library but there is like 50 people in the line before me. Was lucky to find that from one site (e-book) in finnish.

#71: Author: pzjager, Location: Paris

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:05 am
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Tippi-Simo wrote:

Started today Adolf Hitler´s Mein Kampf.
Tried to loan it from library but there is like 50 people in the line before me. Was lucky to find that from one site (e-book) in finnish.

I could send you the General de gaulle memories.... Don't know if they exist in finnish

PJ

#72: Author: Tippi-Simo, Location: Helsinki

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:57 pm
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Quote:

I could send you the General de gaulle memories.... Don't know if they exist in finnish

Name of the original is: Mémoires d'espoir?
It is in finnish. Totally three books available atm.

#73: Author: pzjager, Location: Paris

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:07 pm
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Tippi-Simo wrote:

Quote:

I could send you the General de gaulle memories.... Don't know if they exist in finnish

Name of the original is: Mémoires d'espoir?
It is in finnish. Totally three books available atm.

Mmmm! Very happy to learn that CDG memories are available in Finland in finnish language!

Anyway, always happy to see that CDG behaviour is alive, and angry

when young guys Idea

want to teach to
their older Razz

Anyway, throw your Mein Kampf in the next dustbin and read again "Memoires d'Espoir". You can also buy some good books related to what TRULY happened in the Balkans.

PJ

#74: Author: Tippi-Simo, Location: Helsinki

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:41 pm
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Quote:

You can also buy some good books related to what TRULY happened in the Balkans.

Yes I know, but still we are civilized europeans right? But if you think there are some books worth reading about that just PM or post here. Going to start CdG on monday.

#75: Author: mooxe,

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:43 pm
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Just got my new pile of books to read...

One Soldier's War - The Battle for Chechnya
Combat Officer - A Memoir of the war in the South Pacific
Guadacanal Diary
Goodbye Darkness - A Memoir of the Pacific War
Requiem for Battleship Yamato
One Square Mile of Hell - The Battle for Tarwara
The Jungle is neutral - A Soldier's Two Year Jungle Escape from the Japanese Army
Cutthroats - The Adventures of a Sherman Tank Driver in the Pacific

#76: Author: Tippi-Simo, Location: Helsinki

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:53 pm
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U-Boat Ace - The Story of Wolfgang Lüth
Mein Kriegstagenbuch - Hans-Ulrich Rudel
White Death - Simo Häyhä
Red Army Panzers (1918-1945) - Pekka Kantakoski This book is huuuge!
With Napoleon in Russia;The Memoirs of General de Caulaincourt Duke of Vicenza
That Clausewitz book about war

^ those are in finnish of course.

First 2 are from book publish company my friend´s friend own (named Koala).
Bought those 6 books from book fair today.

#77: Author: Bungarra, Location: Murchison region, West Australia

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:42 am
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Roberts Ridge

Chinook inserts a Seal team on prepared positions atop a mountain peak in Afghanistan during Operation Anaconda

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy7ySLKaM7I

Documentary on same, or just google Roberts Ridge

#78: Author: ronson, Location: England

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:29 pm
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Interesting book I picked up just before Christmas:-

'The Polar Bears' by Patrick Delaforce.........ISBN 0 7509 3194 9

Covers the story of the 49th Infantry Divison from Normandy to Holland 1944-45.

Mostly drawn from Regimental histories and personal recollections, its a rare study at Battalion/company level of the Liberation, describing the weapons used and the small unit tactics employed and the evolution of these during combat.

Most of the operations of the Normandy campaign are touched upon here, Epsom, Cormorant, Goodwood, plus some of the less well know like Martlet.

Of particular interest is the description of the battle fought around Rauray during the German counter-attack by the 70th Brigade supported by the Shermans of the 24th Lancers at the start of July '44, in which 31 Panthers were destroyed in one day.

Cheers
Ronson

#79: Author: flick,

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:57 pm
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My mum found the above book in a second hand book store, made a nice suprise present.

It was interesting reading about what happens when a battalion has to be dispanded, due to casualties.

#80: Author: Tippi-Simo, Location: Helsinki

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:54 pm
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The Terror of Morocco - A book about finnish army captain Aarne Juutilainen.

#81: Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:25 pm
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Yah, been many books..
I found a good book about east front. Its written by Kurt von Tippelskirch, in 1951? (Swedish version printed in 1956).

Kurt von Tippelskirch was appointed Staff for Intelligence in the Army General Staff (OKH) and worked analyzing intelligence data connected to Germany’s campaigns of the war and Operation Barbarossa. He was later appointed to other command functions as war went on.

It may be hard to fined but it a buy recommendation if one stumble on it, and price isn’t to high.

#82: Author: montichan,

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:52 am
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I finished Sean Naylor's Not a Good Day to Die: Operation Anaconda. Smile

#83: Author: Bungarra, Location: Murchison region, West Australia

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:27 pm
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1918 The year of Victories. by Martin Marix Evans pubilished 2003

It tells of the battles that year starting in the desperate attempt by Ludendorf to use his 52 divisions rushed form the eastern front to attack and drive a wedge to the sea between the British and French armies before America could bring enough forces to bear to tip the balance in favour of the Allies. With the objective of forcing forcing them to the peace table.

It could be a classic What if scenario many times over.

The scale in terms of lives lost is hard to comprehend 238 page book 5-10,000 dead and wounded for each page.

I guess it was enevitable that the industrial might of the Allies would eventually overcome the blockade starved Germany. But 52 divisions with their Artillery is a pretty good reserve. It is interesting to note that near 2 million men were taken from the german ranks with influenza of whom 180,000 by that time under nourished men died, 400,000 German civilians also perished.

It also tells of the Americans blooding in battle and how they halted the last German offensive. They then went on the offensive themselves.

The scale of lives lost, the gas, the high explosive, it was no doubt Hell on Earth.

For What?.......is it natures way of Culling Mankind?. Hate to say it but I think so

#84: Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:06 pm
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Found a gem of a book, in Swedish unfortunaty, but anyway,

Föreläsningar Öfver Krigskonsten (Lectures about the art of war)

Printed in 1839,
It cover the latest in war developement and statistic analyzis, and and and and... 407 pages of the Swedish latest military thoughts and also description and analyzes of the main European armys new tactics and how they worked in latest conflict and new untested tactics and conclusions about em.
Im drewling, and with the page glewed in back that can unfold like a big page with artilliry illustrating the latest and fastes way to handle artillery (the arthur claims they are best in Europe at this at the time"?")..
I just love it.... Another extreamly fun thing (for me) is that the book have belonged to a high military man born 1770 - dead 1843 and was in the end the commander of a army, and was in some of Swedens wars (russia), his ex libris (Bookplate) is inside the cover, and his markings/comments in the book, so I alos resershing him now....

If i have time i must make a seperate thread and scan some images and comments, this book is awsome, history of man who owned it is awsome... Im walking on clouds...

#85: Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:22 pm
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TOBRUK - Peter Fitzsimmons

Nice light easy read.... Fitzsimmons tries too hard to be a friend of the old "rats"

Picks up a few good quotes from diaries and letters home.

Hard to recommend , but not a complete waste of time.

#86: Author: Therion,

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:24 pm
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C.L. Werner - Blood for the Blood God - a Warhammer Fantasy novel.

Osprey - Moscow 1941
Polish versions of some of Osprey's books appeared on the market and (unlike some other products, for example games and music) their price was adjusted to local economy, so I bought one of them Smile

#87: Author: Bungarra, Location: Murchison region, West Australia

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:14 am
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3 PARA : told by Patrick Bishop

3 Para in Afghanistan 2006, published 2007

A classic read of modern combat told how it is. Paratroopers are meant for mobile warfare, their mission was to win hearts & minds in Helmand province where the Taliban had reasserted their presence. The deployment started well but ended being seige warfare from static positions in 4 towns. At the request of the Afghan government the Paras had to shore up the local Police authority. (ANP). Pretty hard to win hearts and minds when the local population despised the corrupt Police as much as the Taliban. Very disturbing for the soldiers to watch the ANP whisk young boys away, molest them and watch them clean themselves up in the river. The Paras were constantly attacked in their static bases but repelled them all with the help of air support and sheer grit. The problems of resupply from the air with a limited number of Chinooks. Road resupply was always ambushed by the Taliban who though poorly trained would not let up. The Paras took casualties dead & wounded but thy gave it back 100 fold. They were so sucessful that no more young Afghany men would join the Taliban for they knew it meant death. Taliban reinforcements were Pakistani who trekked across the desert. It descibes the 1000 yard stare from being in continual combat night and day with minimal rest. Of patrolling every day, you know you are going to be ambushed you just don't know where. Seeing your mates go and wondering if you are next. The Political wrangling where the soldiers are the pawns. In the end half the towns were flattened repelling the daily attacks, the local population fleeing. So much for the good will

I recommend it as it does tell it like it is and I dips my lid to the professioalism of all the allied soldiers & airman of NATO for they are doing a tough job not made any easier by the powers that be. Its easy to say go here do that but in reality it is far from easy. They do their job more than well because they really are A band of bothers

#88: Re: What are you reading? Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:04 pm
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Not a book review made in 2,5 month. Hmmm, have we just forgot to post, or have we stopped reading? Shocked

Men, I assume we all gone read a book or a pile of books this summer. Lets make a short review here in this thread and share some opinions about em books.
This thread is read 6000+ times, so your opinions and recommendations is appreciated by the community.

Happy summer reading men, and dont forget to wright a few lines about the book(s).

S

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#89: Re: What are you reading? Author: Wonder9,

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:24 pm
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An Army at Dawn by Rick Atkinson

Covers the US army's North African campaign in WWII from Operation Torch to the capture of Tunis. Very insightful read about some of the early difficulties experienced by American troops and commanders when they were green and untested in battle.

Almost finished with it and soon to start on The Day of Battle by the same author. Covers the Sicilian and Italian campaigns.

#90: Re: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:37 pm
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Cutthroats - The Adventures of a Sherman Tank Driver in the Pacific.

Robert C. Dick

non-fiction

Good book, 247 pages. Funny to. Authro describes how horrible it was to drive an M3 Stuart, awkward controls, bad intercom communications, no space to move.... When they get the Sherman is was better but still pretty awkward. havent read up to the combat portion of this book but so far its very entertaining. A story right from the veterans mouth.

#91: Re: What are you reading? Author: Tippi-Simo, Location: Helsinki

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:29 am
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End of this year I hope that I have finished all Dostojevski´s novels.

#92: Re: What are you reading? Author: tripwire, Location: Florida - USA

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:48 pm
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Re-reading all of John Le Carré's novels.

Into 'A Small Town in Germany' right now.

#93: Re: What are you reading? Author: Infidel,

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:51 am
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I'm reading Black Hawk Down, the true story. It's about 100% better than the average quality film is. Loving it.

#94: Re: What are you reading? Author: papa_whisky,

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:33 pm
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Panzer Leader. Guderian, Heinz (1952) Sets out very clearly why Nazi Germany lost the war against the Soviet Union, and an interesting insight into German military thought.

tripwire wrote (View Post):

Re-reading all of John Le Carré's novels.

Into 'A Small Town in Germany' right now.

I have read all of his books and enjoyed them all

#95: Re: What are you reading? Author: tripwire, Location: Florida - USA

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:20 pm
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Yeah, Papa W., he just keeps getting better in his writing.

Have you read his last two? 'The Mission Song' and 'A Most Wanted Man'? Extremely well-made stories and very insightful world-views woven into deeply personal character interplay.

#96: Re: What are you reading? Author: papa_whisky,

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:50 am
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Yes I have read them all, and many of them more than once. I like Carre's politics, enjoy the company of his partially dysfunctional characters, and his observations on human nature. I agree he just gets better.

#97: Re: What are you reading? Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:36 pm
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Finished reading "Pegasus Bridge" of Ambrose, and I can´t take the bridge in TLD! Laughing

#98: Re: What are you reading? Author: Infidel,

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:53 am
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Haha I'm defending it in GJS, I may dig out my copy and read it next now you mention it.

#99: Re: What are you reading? Author: Therion,

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:29 am
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Gerald Astor - The Bloody Forest: Battle for the Hurtgen: September 1944-January 1945
A truly grimdark book about one of the bloodiest battles of the Western Front. Lots of personal accounts make it a-must-read for a Close Combat fan.
Too bad I have to return it to the library...

Also, I have found a something very rare today - Rajmund Szuba?ski - Pancerne boje wrze?nia (Armoured combat of September) - a book about Polish armoured units during the september campaign.

#100: Re: What are you reading? Author: Therion,

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:30 am
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Gerald Astor - The Bloody Forest: Battle for the Hurtgen: September 1944-January 1945
A truly grimdark book about one of the bloodiest battles of the Western Front. Lots of personal accounts make it a-must-read for a Close Combat fan.
Too bad I have to return it to the library...

Also, I have found a something very rare today - Rajmund Szubanski - Pancerne boje wrzesnia (Armoured combat of September) - a book about Polish armoured units during the september campaign.

#101: Re: What are you reading? Author: iDot,

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:51 am
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i have just finished reading red pheonix. Someone should make a mod of that book for cc5 Razz

#102: Re: What are you reading? Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:45 am
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http://www.strategypage.com/wargames/articles_news/closecombat.asp

Done a lot of research for that title... even played the dev build...not a game yet but had some interesting stuff.

#103: Re: What are you reading? Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:46 am
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The next in the series, Close Combat: Red Phoenix™, is a realistic real-time strategy game set on the challenging terrains of today’s Korean peninsula. Loosely based on the New York Times best-selling novel by Larry Bond, Red Phoenix puts players in command of a reinforced rifle platoon of U.S. Marines or South Korean soldiers fighting against an invasion by North Korea in 2006. Red Phoenix is scheduled for worldwide release in early 2005.

can't edit above^

#104: Re: What are you reading? Author: Pzt_Crackwise, Location: Switzerland

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:17 am
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As a novel related with WW2, I would recommend "Death is Called Engelchen" by Ladislav Mnacko. It is about partisan activity in the former Yugoslavia territory against the German occupation. I don't know if it is sold now though, I had read it when I was a kid. Maybe you can find it in bookstores who sell old, used books.

#105: Re: What are you reading? Author: iDot,

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:26 am
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schrecken wrote (View Post):

The next in the series, Close Combat: Red Phoenix™, is a realistic real-time strategy game set on the challenging terrains of today’s Korean peninsula. Loosely based on the New York Times best-selling novel by Larry Bond, Red Phoenix puts players in command of a reinforced rifle platoon of U.S. Marines or South Korean soldiers fighting against an invasion by North Korea in 2006. Red Phoenix is scheduled for worldwide release in early 2005.

can't edit above^

ATTENTION, IF YOU HAVE NOT READ RED PHEONIX THIS NEXT PART CONTAINS SPOILERS!!!!

man just a platoon? you could do the full korean peninsula in cc5 I reakon and have the full effects of the book (I know Patton told me not to but im going to assume you have read the book as well.) If you did a mod with all available troops from the book it would be interesting to see if the Americans and the South Koreans could actually try and hold the North at Seoul rather than falling back to Taejon and outflanking the massively outstreched North Korean forces.

Oh well dreams are free, it wont get made less i make it and I have tried modding and did not succeed lmao Wink

, but if anyone else is interested im more than happy to give my thoughts, read the book a few times now.

#106: Re: What are you reading? Author: bagde58,

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:08 pm
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Just finished "Napoleon biography" by J. Tarle Idea

#107: Re: What are you reading? Author: verner, Location: Danmark

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:23 pm
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a most read book for this forum is "lost victories" by eric von manstein ... brilliant book..

regards verner

#108: Re: What are you reading? Author: CC_CO,

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:54 pm
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Reading Antony Beavers "STALINGRAD". The book is probably one of the cornerstones in all litteratur related to the battle. 400 pages. A must read!

#109: Re: What are you reading? Author: verner, Location: Danmark

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:03 pm
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got it Very Happy

nice book and cornelius ryan is also a MOST READ Smile

#110: Re: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:01 am
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I have been reading a book for months now. Usually just 15minutes in bed a few nights a week. I cant remember the name of it actually! It is non-fiction. Its about the three soldiers in WW1, all ended up being killed in action, and thier bodies were not recovered, or were buried as unknowns. Those three stories are pieced together by witnesses, friends, family and official reports. The next part of the book details how thier families tried to find thier remains through the government and actually visiting the grave sites just after WW1. The final chapters deal with how England, the USA and other Allied countried came to honour the unknown soldier. It describes how each country chose its unknown soldier from the graves and how they were honored, the same honors still payed today each Nov 11th. Its very interesting.

For England's unknown soldier they did this...

Three teams, unaware of each other, unaware of the greater meaning to thier tasks were all sent out to various battlegrounds of France. They were instructed to unearth one unknown soldier and bring that body back at a specific time. They were to inspect the body for any type of identification at all. If there was so much as a button that would tell what unit the man was from, then the body was not suitable. All three teams had thier return timings staggered so as not find out about one another. At midnight, one casket was randomly chosen by someone who did not know from which area the bodies were taken from. The secrecy was very important. The government wanted to make sure that all families of soldiers who remains could not be identified had an equal chance of the unknown soldier being thier son or father etc. The USA and France did much the same in terms of secrecy.

I did some online research about the Canadian Unknown soldier. We brought an unknown soldier back only in the year 2000!

#111: Re: What are you reading? Author: Wastemoreland,

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:54 am
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When a Sparrow falls. By Wilbur Smith.

Amusing story.

#112: Re: What are you reading? Author: Infidel,

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:30 am
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Haha Wilbur Smith is brilliant, mindless action tales that you just can't put down. I think that may have been the first one I read too, years ago, and now I own them all! Enjoy it mate.

#113: Re: What are you reading? Author: Dundradal,

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:58 pm
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Admiral John H. Towers: The Struggle for Naval Air Supremacy - Clark Reynolds

Cosmos - Carl Sagan

Thutmose III: The Military Biography of Egypt's Greatest Warrior King - Richard A. Gabriel

#114: Re: What are you reading? Author: Infidel,

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:48 am
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"How to Fit Your New Ikea Wardrobe"

This one's a God damned fucking mission to read.

#115: Re: What are you reading? Author: Tippi-Simo, Location: Helsinki

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:36 pm
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Dead Souls by Nikolai Gogol.
Have to read sometimes fiction. History is pretty heavy stuff.
Have spared 3 books for my trip so far:
- Stalingrad, Beevor
- The Mind of Stalin.. , Rancour-LaFerriere
- The Siege of Leningrad 41-44, Seppälä (published by the biggest commie butt licker in the world: Johan Bäckman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_B%C3%A4ckman)

#116: Re: What are you reading? Author: 7A_Woulf, Location: Sweden

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:11 pm
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Have just spent a few hours reading "Hell's Highway, the true story of the 101st Airborne Division during operation Market Garden, September 17-25, 1944" by John Antal.

If you want to know the background of the division and every battalion movement of the 101st during MG it's a nice book with a few interesting facts, but it's full of flaws as well. Mad

As an American book about American soldiers, every German gun is a 'FlaK 88', all German SP Guns are StuG III, the SS are fanatics sitting on tanks shouting "I want to die for Hitler" and except for the tactical maps, the Germans are a faceless mass. (And when they mention German units, they place Sturmgeschützbrigade 280 against the 101st, even though it fought in Arnhem and Oosterbeek...)

They can't even accept the fact that Luftwaffe had air-superiority during this battle, and when describing the German air-raid on Eindhoven on September 19 it's very important to point out that 227 Dutch civilians were killed and several hundred were wounded; -I just wonder how many civilians were killed in Allied air-raids during the liberation of Europe?!? Rolling Eyes

Finally, the pictures in the book is a strange story! 1/3 is real pictures from 1944, as it should be.
-But 1/3 are modern reenactors of the division and the last 1/3 are screen-shots from the 'Brothers In Arms' games!! Rolling Eyes

I know that the book is released as a part of the release of 'Brothers In Arms: Hell's Highway', but still....

#117: Re: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:55 pm
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7A_Woulf wrote (View Post):

I know that the book is released as a part of the release of 'Brothers In Arms: Hell's Highway', but still....

Screenshots from a computer game are in a book like that? Funny!

I am reading Iron Coffins at the moment. Such an excellent first person account of the U-Boat war.

#118: Re: What are you reading? Author: Ignacio,

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:35 pm
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I am reading "Hitler Moves EAst" by Paul Carell. Great Book!

#119: Re: What are you reading? Author: Therion,

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:55 pm
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AMBUSH ALLEY: THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY BATTLE OF THE IRAQ WAR
Reading it makes me glad that I never went to army O_o . I've read the beginning and it already shows tons of boredom, internal conflicts, incompetence and all the stuff annoying like that.

#120: Re: What are you reading? Author: kawasaky, Location: Zagreb, Hrvatska

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:31 pm
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A few that I've read within past 6 months:

John Keegan: The American Civil War is a pretty good read although there are some simplifications and influence of the unionist propaganda i.e. it was fought bcs of slavery, but all in all it is a good book and I recommend it. Beware, maps are a must while reading this!!!

David S. Wyman: The Abandonment of the Jews is well written and easily read book on what the West (USA primarily) could have done, but passed the chance, in order to save at least several hundred thousands of Jews.

Viktor Suvorov: Spetsnaz, and I ve found an online edition for anyone interested:
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/index.html
V.Suvorov: GRU is a great book about the Soviet military intel.

Max Hastings: Retribution is generally a good read on the last two years of the Pacific-Asian conflict, although there are a few errors, although nothing crucial. I really enjoyed a huge chapter about China and Burma.

Then a bit of repetition with J.S.Mill's On Liberty, and right now I am reading Quiet flows the Don (Mikhail Skholohov) after 15 years and enjoying it as much as the first time I've read it. Exclamation

#121: Re: What are you reading? Author: pagskier,

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:11 pm
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I'm reading
Holding Juno from Mark Zuehlke
just after the read of Juno Beach from the same author
it's good. After I,ll read Terrible Victory speaking of holland still by the main author
it speaks of the Canadian troops

#122: Re: What are you reading? Author: Dundradal,

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:32 pm
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Just started Dallas Isom's "Midway Inquest: Why the Japanese Lost the Battle of Midway"

It's interesting so far, but you can tell Isom is a lawyer and not a historian. The book is written like a closing argument, however so far I've been impressed with his research.

#123: Re: What are you reading? Author: Superkala,

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:15 am
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It Never Snows In September, Robert J Kershaw

Actually its only my third book on the war i own, so i appear to be a ways behind here ;)

Right now im looking for a book setting down some cold hard realities about the various tanks and what their guns(and armour) could or couldnt do. Preferably one i agree with, but ya know Wink

maybe ill find a reference to one in this thread.

#124: Re: What are you reading? Author: US_Brake, Location: USA

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:27 pm
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Infantry Tactics of the Second World War, Steven Bull & Gordon L Rottman

Moscow 1941 Hitler's first defeat, Robert Forczyk Opsrey

Darby's Rangers We Led The Way, William O Darby

Aug-Sep issue of World at War The Strategy & Tactics of WWII Magazine

#125: Re: What are you reading? Author: 7A_Woulf, Location: Sweden

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:43 pm
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Sons of the Reich II SS Panzer Corps, by Michael Reynolds.

-When I can pull myself to pick it up, one book heavy on details and facts... Rolling Eyes

#126: Re: What are you reading? Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:16 pm
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It Never Snows in September concurrently with Sons of The Reich II

#127: Re: What are you reading? Author: Therion,

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:05 pm
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The Kindly Ones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kindly_Ones_(Littell_novel)

Awesome WWII novel. 820 pages long.

#128: Re: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:06 pm
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Therion wrote (View Post):

The Kindly Ones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kindly_Ones_(Littell_novel)

Awesome WWII novel. 820 pages long.

non-fiction?

#129: Re: What are you reading? Author: papa_whisky,

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:04 am
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The Kindly Ones appears to have had mixed reviews, but some big names gave it impressive reviews. It is historical fiction, sounds controversial, and probably a must read. Thanks Therion for the heads up.

#130: Re: What are you reading? Author: Therion,

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:30 pm
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mooxe wrote (View Post):

Therion wrote (View Post):

The Kindly Ones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kindly_Ones_(Littell_novel)

Awesome WWII novel. 820 pages long.

non-fiction?

Historical fiction. It's very interesting because the protagonist is an intellectual that loves philosophy, literature, etc. and a sexual deviant. And a Nazi.
It shows the horror of the holocaust from perspective whose job was killing Jews. Mental breakdowns, soldiers vomiting during executions, and stuff like that.
Also, it shows how most of people who were doing that stuff were normal people without specific predispositions for killing other people.

#131: Re: What are you reading? Author: Hesus,

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:37 pm
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Well for now i am reading Cicero: The Life and Times of Rome's Greatest Politician. Not really WWII related but still nice to read.

#132: Re: What are you reading? Author: stiener, Location: Gibsons B.C. canada

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:22 pm
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me and mooxe seem to have the same taste.... Shocked

....i also like the german versions of WW2 Cool

i have read "it never snows in sept"...this is a very very good book and now applies to LSA......if you have never read it get it.
Panzer Commander is another book i have read a few times...is about Hans Von Luck, panzer commander.....another great read......his exploits in normandy are are worth the price of the book.
i also have all the Michael Reynolds books on the SS panzer corps. these books are amazing..the detail etc...amazing. the german side of the battles .....a real eye opener. im still reading thse now.
"Steel inferno" 1SS panzer corps in normandy is a must read, by michael reynolds......very good insite into the battles at normandy.
i have, but havent read yet is the "Devils Adjutant" by michael reynolds about Jochen Peiper.
and of course as other have said here any book written by Mark Zuelke..a fellow Canuck...about the canadains, are first class books. his Juno beach books are again a real insite into the fighting at normandy and when you have read the german side to....well it puts it all into perpesctive.
"ortona"[ little stalingrad ] by Mrk Zuelke is really good too.....about the battle of Ortona italy...canadian VS German para's......Wow.....is all i can say.

i dont want to start anything here but the new material thats come out over id say the last 10 years on WW2, have confirmed an interesting fact....that prisoners were sometimes not taken on BOTH sides during WW2. the Victors write history.....but War was/is a brutal conflict.
an interesting fact tho......

#133: Re: What are you reading? Author: Dima,

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:34 pm
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Quote:

Viktor Suvorov: Spetsnaz, and I ve found an online edition for anyone interested:
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/index.html
V.Suvorov: GRU is a great book about the Soviet military intel.

how could you read that crap? Smile

well, i know he has good style but they are not any close to reality, well same could be told about Beevor books and most of the german memoirs..

#134: Re: What are you reading? Author: papa_whisky,

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:55 am
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@ Dima and what is the problem with Beevor's books? Given that he is a historian or critical acclaim what justification do you have?

#135: Re: What are you reading? Author: kawasaky, Location: Zagreb, Hrvatska

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:47 am
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Dima wrote (View Post):

Quote:

Viktor Suvorov: Spetsnaz, and I ve found an online edition for anyone interested:
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/index.html
V.Suvorov: GRU is a great book about the Soviet military intel.

how could you read that crap? Smile

well, i know he has good style but they are not any close to reality, well same could be told about Beevor books and most of the german memoirs..

It could be, dunno, but you surely can recommend some good read on the GRU if this is a crap...

#136: Re: What are you reading? Author: Dima,

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:21 pm
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Quote:

@ Dima and what is the problem with Beevor's books?

he doesn't prove most of things he states. basically he just copile lie and cold-war myths in his books mixed with some real facts to make it look "historical". his main references are: "as one guy mentioned..." or "looks like" or "it seems that someone told", etc.

Quote:

Given that he is a historian or critical acclaim what justification do you have?

search for D.Glantz (the well acknowledged EF expert) critisism on Beevor. Basicly he says that Beevor is good example of norrative history but one should not take it as historical research.

here is one review of Beevor's "Stalingrad" http://www.mariosousa.se/ReviewBeevorStalingrad050729.html

Quote:

It could be, dunno, but you surely can recommend some good read on the GRU if this is a crap...

yes, f.e. "The GRU Empire" by A.Kolpakidi (2 parts) or "GRU during Great Patriotic War" by V.Nikolsky if you are interested in WW2 part. don't know if they were translated from Russian tho.

#137: Re: What are you reading? Author: kawasaky, Location: Zagreb, Hrvatska

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:00 pm
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OK, thanks. If those are translated in English or some southern Slavic language I shall find some.

And yes, I agree on criticism of Beevor (read Stalingrad and disliked it), although it doesn't mean that the narrative history isn't good. I find that most of the historians aren't too good writers. Yes, their job isn't to write nicely, but it would surely help if they knew how to do it. There are some good examples of good narrative history based on extensive research... Just to mention a few like Max Hastings, John Keegan, Charles Jellison, Guido Knopp, Carlo D'Este, Cornelious Ryan, Milovan Djilas and so on.
Oh yes, I almost failed to mention ole W. Churchill!

BTW, reading Col. Nikola Anich's Hitler's Wehrmacht in Croatia from April 1941 to May 1945 at the moment.
Very good book, although I am quite sure that it isn't translated from Croatian. :(

Also, I've recently read A. Rashid's Taliban. Superb read with lots of facts AND written really nicely since the author is a pro reporter. He has been covering Afghan since 1979 and spoke to most of the head honchos over there over the time. A must read!

#138: Re: What are you reading? Author: Therion,

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:28 pm
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I remember trying to read war memoirs of some German panzer officer. Good fucking God. They were so full of shit that I had to stop reading it after 30 pages to save my nerves.
These guys are Holocaust profiteers, just like Jews. They use Holocaust as a big shield to pretend that they were doing nothing wrong.
Thanks to the 6 millions of dead Jews, all that scum from Wehrmacht, Lutwaffe and Kriegsmarine can pretend that they were good guys, and sadly a lot of people buy into their bullshit. Because with the 6 millions of dead Jews one can pretend that everything else was completely okay.
It's so nice to hide behind bullshit like "honour", "duty", "patriotism", etc. and pretend that they weren't a bunch of thugs waging aggressive war, that they didn't illegally cross borders, that they didn't murder servicemen trying to protect their countries from their aggression, that they didn't murder civilians with their bombs and artillery, that they didn't destroy unimaginable amounts of private property, that they didn't destroy unimaginable amounts of private property government property and didn't disrupt normal lives of tens of millions of people.

Fuck, I don't have anything against German soldiers who were forcibly drafted or couldn't quit because it would threaten their safety or safety of their families, but the rest with their patriotism, duty, honour and other self-justifying bullshit deserves to eat shit and die. They willingly participated in one of the worst crimes against humanity - and they managed to whitewash their history so that everyone would forget that their whole retarded war was one massive crime against humanity.
Good fucking God, what a bunch of fucking shitheads, it's sometimes hard to believe that they weren't sociopaths.

Dima wrote (View Post):

here is one review of Beevor's "Stalingrad" http://www.mariosousa.se/ReviewBeevorStalingrad050729.html

Good fucking God, what a fucking dumbfuck, he should know better than denying war crimes which are documented by written orders.
What a stupid piece of shit, couldn't he just write that it was necessary for security and socialist progress or something like that instead of just lying like a dog?
Now I don't know if this review is based on truth or is it just delusions of some butthurt Russian nationalist.

#139: Re: What are you reading? Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:13 pm
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yes, reminds me of Iraq

#140: Re: What are you reading? Author: Therion,

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:26 pm
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Partially. Iraq may be a war of aggression, which is a supreme crime against humanity. Certainly, it should be investigated.
Still, it's completely incomparable with sheer level of evil both in actions and intent of what Germans have done.
Comparing Iraq war to WWII doesn't make sense and just serves to discredit any movements demanding treating it as a war crime.

Though, I suspect that reminding people that German war crimes in WWII weren't just Holocaust but the war in its entirety should help.

#141: Re: What are you reading? Author: papa_whisky,

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:49 am
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Dima wrote (View Post):

here is one review of Beevor's "Stalingrad" http://www.mariosousa.se/ReviewBeevorStalingrad050729.html

The review of Stalingrad in the above link is comprehensive in its criticism of the book and strongly defends any criticism of the Soviet Union with in it, but doesn't appear to provide any facts to support its counter claims. Seems more of a rant than anything. During the reading of the book I never felt once that the Germans were painted as 'heroes', you could however empathise with individual soldiers during their accounts irrespective of their side.

Maybe I don't see thing the way you do as I was a 'colonialist and officer in the British Empire' and I subscribe to 'the new liberal capitalism wants to deprive the workers of everything: their living conditions, their safety, and even their history. The capitalists want us to lose confidence in ourselves so as to be able to rule without restrictions. There is not much difference between liberalism and nazism in this respect.'.... or at least that is what Mário Sousa would probably class me as. I am sorry, Dima, with statements like that and the absence of any references to support the counter arguments presented Mário Sousa is hard to take seriously.

#142: Re: What are you reading? Author: Dima,

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:44 pm
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Quote:

I am sorry, Dima, with statements like that and the absence of any references to support the counter arguments presented Mário Sousa is hard to take seriously.

Sousa is on the same level as Beevor in his "works" but, as commie, is on the different side of a stick Smile

.
His approach is pretty same as Beevor's - no need to prove anything, just believe in it..

Albert Axell, the American military writer and historian :
Once I was invited to talk on BBC Radio 4. The second invitee was presented as "an authoritative military historian", Antony Beevor, who wrote Berlin: The Downfall, 1945, where he portrayed the Red Army as the looter and rapist. This historian says that when Soviet troops pushed into Germany, Russian soldiers raped two million German women. He quotes a source saying: "Russian soldiers were raping every German female from eight to 80." What a perfect statistic: every female - nobody needs any proof!

I don't want to prove anything to you, it's your choice whom to believe. I could just suggest you reading something serious about EF, like Glantz f.e., and then make your conclusions:
http://www.amazon.com/Gates-Stalingrad-Soviet-German-Operations-April-August/dp/0700616306/ref=pd_sim_b_1
http://www.amazon.com/Armageddon-Stalingrad-September-November-Trilogy-Studies/dp/0700616640/ref=pd_sim_b_3

#143: Re: What are you reading? Author: papa_whisky,

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:37 pm
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@ Dima therefore your previous comments are baseless I think is what you are saying.

#144: Re: What are you reading? Author: Dima,

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:25 pm
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Quote:

@ Dima therefore your previous comments are baseless I think is what you are saying.

why? Sousa crashed Beevor's Stalingrad. Could prove he did not? Wink

.
what i was saying and repeating is that "Beevor's history" is far from reality and that is based on many histrocial books on same topic.
anyway, everyone chooses himself what to believe in.

#145: Re: What are you reading? Author: Blackstump, Location: Hunter Valley Australia

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:31 am
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The Path of Infinite Sorrow.
Japanese side of the Kokada/ New Guinea campaign
Interesting eye witness and historical accounts from both sides. Highlights the inter service rivalry between navy and army from Japanese view point. Also their indecision from Guadacanal landings and the confusion caused by this time.
For me its a lesson in correct intel and reconaissance and the inherent risk of an extended supply line.

#146: Re: What are you reading? Author: Tippi-Simo, Location: Helsinki

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:29 am
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Dima wrote (View Post):

Quote:

but it is indeed documented also by russians.

any prove? Smile

Since your grandfather lied to you, you have to search your national archives.

#147: Re: What are you reading? Author: verba, Location: New Providence (Bahama's)

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:58 pm
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Im reading this thread and

The latestbook from Emerson Vermaat: Heinrich Himmler en de cultus van de dood

#148: Re: What are you reading? Author: Hoogley, Location: Brisbane

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:12 am
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Sadly, I'm not reading anything of the paper variety currently.

I'm listening to The History of Rome podcast and reading The Walking Dead comic on iPod.

I'm also working on the mod for LSA which entails reading a lot of web articles about weapons and ammo load-outs.

And, in the background, I've been working on an RPG system for the last 20 years. Currently, I've been doing a lot of reading about different mythologies and the like. Ireland has an incredible mythological history attached to it.

#149: Re: What are you reading? Author: vonB,

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:20 pm
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Just finished Mother Tongue by Bill Bryson. Well worth reading for anyone interested in the evolution of the English language in particular. It's reasonably light reading with typical Bill Bryson humour, but still very informative. Some things will surprise both Brits and Yanks alike. You may find some of the things you took for granted very wrong...

#150: Re: What are you reading? Author: Superkala,

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:28 pm
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''A bridge too far'' by Cornelius Ryan

Hmm, its been awile since my last post and whats that burning smell?

#151: Re: What are you reading? Author: Tippi-Simo, Location: Helsinki

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:18 am
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In and out of Stalin´s GRU - Ismail Akhmedov

Really interesting story about Soviet spy during 30´s and 40´s.

#152: Re: What are you reading? Author: RD_TG_Jager, Location: New Jersey

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:37 pm
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Steel Inferno: I SS Panzer Corps in Normandy, very good book that’s cover both 12th SS and 1st SS divisions from deployment to around Caen up to Falsie aka Mortain gap counter offensive.

Currently reading

Grenadiers: The Story Of Waffen SS General Kurt 'Panzer' Meyer (Stackpole Military History)

Winston Churchil's The Second World War

Going to read,
The 12th SS: The History of the Hitler Youth Panzer Division Volume II

#153: Re: What are you reading? Author: kawasaky, Location: Zagreb, Hrvatska

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:57 pm
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I just printed and started to read:
Saxon, Timothy D., The German Side of the Hill: Nazi Conquest and Exploitation of Italy, 1943-45, University of Virgina, 1999
http://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1053&context=fac_dis

#154: Re: What are you reading? Author: ronson, Location: England

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:06 pm
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'Red Road From Stalingrad'.....recollections of a Soviet infantryman
Author .....Mansur Abdlin
Editor ......Artem Drabkin
Translator...Denis Fedosov

Unusual book that I picked up 2nd hand recently describes from 'ground level' the Soviet soldiers viewpoint of some of the epic battles on the Eastern Front, easy to read and seems to be free of any overt political bias.

Also contains some organisation details (Armaments, Strenghts, transportation etc.) of the units he served with 293 Rifle and 66 Guards Divisions

Not sure if its still in print , but worth checking with your bookstore or public library ref is:-
ISBN 1 84415 145 X

Well worth an afternoons reading at under 200 pages.

Cheers
Ronson

#155: Re: What are you reading? Author: Dima,

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:36 pm
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Hi Ronson,

there is number of very good books by Artem Drabkin (editor and project author), they are mainly recollections of RA soldiers/officers memoirs and probably the best available in English about Red Army soldiers.

Check his other books published in English
http://www.allbookstores.com/ARTEM-DRABKIN/author/1

Also check his webpage where you can read alot of memoirs of RA enslisted during GPW:
http://english.iremember.ru/

#156: Re: What are you reading? Author: ronson, Location: England

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:13 pm
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Thx Dima:),

Interesting selection of books there, Aircobra, T34, Penalty strike and the collection of interviews I'll definately keep a lookout for.

Cheers
Ronson

#157: Re: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:29 pm
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Dima wrote (View Post):

Also check his webpage where you can read alot of memoirs of RA enslisted during GPW:
http://english.iremember.ru/

Good reading.

About Soviet wartime books... I read one a few years ago about a T34 commander. It was packed full of propaganda and anti-nazi rhetoric that it took away from the "non-fiction-ness" of it. Like a real soldier wrote it, and then it was passed through the propaganda department for editing, really turned me off.

I am always looking for books from Japanese, Russians and any other nationality not represented well here in the West. I hate that one book has kind of soured me on Russian books... but before buying any more of them I would have to research some user reviews or something.

#158: Re: What are you reading? Author: Dima,

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:11 pm
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About Soviet wartime books... I read one a few years ago about a T34 commander. It was packed full of propaganda and anti-nazi rhetoric that it took away from the "non-fiction-ness" of it. Like a real soldier wrote it, and then it was passed through the propaganda department for editing, really turned me off.

mate, these are modern Russian books not Sovet times books, they are made to show the war as it was for low rank enlisted men and not as it was picted in USSR.

anyway, German and US memoirs i've read are not better, propaganda-wise, than Soviet memoirs..

#159: Re: What are you reading? Author: Priapus,

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:15 pm
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Have you read Life & Fate by Vasily Grossman Dima? I picked it up recently and am looking forward to delving into it once I finish Molotov Remembers; a collection of interviews with Vyacheslav Molotov from the early 60s until his death in the mid 80s. It's fascinating to hear a defence of the stalinist regime from someone who was there from the very start and almost to the very end.

#160: Re: What are you reading? Author: Dima,

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:43 pm
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No, didn't read Grossman.
Molotov's interviews are cool Smile

#161: Re: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:53 pm
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Reading "Red Army Infantrymen Remember the Great Patriotic War" by Artem Drabkin & Isaak Kobylyanskiy. Finished the first two interviews. Good book.

#162: Re: What are you reading? Author: Blackstump, Location: Hunter Valley Australia

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:25 am
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The Last Post. A collection of stories of the last 21 WW1 British soldiers still alive .
Their ages are from 104 to 109. These men have lived thru WW1, the great depression, WW2, and the millenium.
A common denominator is their hate of war and politicians!! The book was published in 2004.

#163: Re: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:50 pm
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Commanding the Red Army's Sherman Tanks: The World War II Memoirs of Hero of the Soviet Union Dmitriy Loza

This is a really nice book on how the Soviets used their lend lease Shermans. Lots of examples of stuff they did in tank warfare that we do in CC. Once example was in/around Budapest. A sherman was hiding in an alley way, poking out to shoot at a Panther then backing in. Distracting a Tiger tank from one angle and engaging it from the opposite.

One particular battle was very interesting to read. A group of Shermans spots four Tigers at night, they choose not to engage. Theres heavy snow and both the Tigers and the Shermans are getting coated in it. The Shermans move into position during the night and take up aim on the Tigers. They wait for first light. When first light comes they open up on the Tigers and knock them all out. The Tiger crews let their optics get covered in snow, they had no way of delivering return fire.

Lots of examples on how the Shermans engaged heavy tanks.

#164: Re: What are you reading? Author: Dima,

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:30 pm
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Mooxe,

i believe it worth mentioning that these Shermans were M4A2 (Sherman III) with 76mm guns capable of penetrating more armor than soviet 85mm and not 75mm versions.

#165: Re: What are you reading? Author: 0202243,

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:35 pm
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'The fall of Rome' by Adrian Goldsworthy

#166: Re: What are you reading? Author: Manoi, Location: Brussels

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:16 pm
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the Angriff by Jason D. Mark. In fact there are more pictures than text! Smile

#167: Re: What are you reading? Author: matthewhalos, Location: Davao City, Philippines

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:17 am
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Reader's Digest: Illustrated Story of World War II
-My great grandfather (a veteran of world war II) gave this to me before he died because he knew i was a fan of world war II...... he bought this book from Reader's Digest on December 10, 1971.
Battlefield: The Skills of Modern War by David Miller
-It is a gift from my parents in last year's Christmas.....

"For those who want to live, let them fight. For those who don't want to fight in this world does not deserve to live." -Adolf Hitler (excerpt from the Mein Kampf)

#168: Re: What are you reading? Author: dj,

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:03 pm
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Dumb question...but where is a good resource to find WWII history books? Borders and Barnes and Noble are decent...but pretty limited choices. Amazon?

#169: Re: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:27 pm
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I use Amazon. Amazon has a great search function. They show you your title, related titles, what other people bought with the title your looking at. Aside from an occaisional book from the library I get all mine from Amazon.

#170: Re: What are you reading? Author: kawasaky, Location: Zagreb, Hrvatska

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:14 pm
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Norbert&Stephan Lambert, Because you wear my name: hard destiny of prominent Nazi children

Father and son, both journalists, gathered 7 stories from the children of some of the highest ranking nazi party leaders like Hess, Goering, Bormann, Himmler... Those interviews were hard t o get for obvious reasons, and are very worth reading. However, I dunno if it is translated in English, the original name is:

Denn Du trägst meinen Namen. Das schwere Erbe der prominenten Nazi-Kinder

#171: Re: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:43 pm
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Now reading The Damned by Nathan Greenfield.

Found this book in the local library. So far its amazing. The book covers the Canadian defence of Hong Kong, in graphic detail. The British and Indians are men mentioned as well but the focus is on Canadians. Half the book deals with the battle which I just finished, the other half the POW experience.

Veterans interviews after the war were used as well as recent interviews. These veterans spoke about the grisly details of melee fighting and bayonet charges. The descriptions are on par with The Forgotten Soldier. Reading these details, I had a clear picture in my head of what was happening. One particular story that stood uot for me was this... A section leader goes on a recce with six others. They ambush a 12 man Japanese recce and the section leader is quickly separated and fighting for his life against this recce. The section leaders first shot misses, then he throws a grenade which injures or kills most of them as they are charging him because it exploded in the air behind them. As a japanese soldier bayonet rushes him. As the section leader forgot to put his bayonet on, he clubs him his rifle by grabbing it by the barrel and swinging it. Just as he does this another Japanese soldier attacks him with a sword. He grabs the sword with his left hand, gets him in a headlock with his right hand and pins him to the ground. Struggling to keep his legs pinned since he feared the soldier would use judo, he remembers his pistol. It fell out of the holster but was still attached by a lanyard. He lets go of the sword to grab it, presses the pistol to the soldier neck but he cant fire. He can get his finger to the trigger when he grabbed the sowrd it cut his muscles in his hand. He was able to raise another finger to the trigger and shoot the man.

Much of the book covers rediculous command decisions fighting a force 100x the size of the defenders. Arguing in the chain of command, officers trying to do whats best in the situation, empire vs colonial troops... Its an excellent insight to how officers thought and how the men thought of them in these situations.

I like how this book, with passages such as those, brings me in so much that there is nothing else I can think of. I am unaware of whats going on in my house.

#172: Re: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:48 pm
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mooxe wrote (View Post):

Commanding the Red Army's Sherman Tanks: The World War II Memoirs of Hero of the Soviet Union Dmitriy Loza

This is a really nice book on how the Soviets used their lend lease Shermans. Lots of examples of stuff they did in tank warfare that we do in CC. Once example was in/around Budapest. A sherman was hiding in an alley way, poking out to shoot at a Panther then backing in. Distracting a Tiger tank from one angle and engaging it from the opposite.

One particular battle was very interesting to read. A group of Shermans spots four Tigers at night, they choose not to engage. Theres heavy snow and both the Tigers and the Shermans are getting coated in it. The Shermans move into position during the night and take up aim on the Tigers. They wait for first light. When first light comes they open up on the Tigers and knock them all out. The Tiger crews let their optics get covered in snow, they had no way of delivering return fire.

Lots of examples on how the Shermans engaged heavy tanks.

Finished this one. it was an expensive hardcover book, $50. Worth it.

I writer, who was one of the leaders in this tank unit had an emotional connection to his tanks. Him and his men shared that. At the end of the war the USA started taking back all thier lend-lease equipment. The Shermans were ordered back to aport to begin loading. At the port it was reported that the lend-lease aircraft were simple being stamped in a metal compressor, shipped out to see and dumped. Once the Russian government found this out they ordered the turrets taken off all the Shermans and gave them to farmers to use as tractors.

If this was a widespread order, I suppose theres a few hundred or maybe a few thousand Shermans that were on the farms in Russia. Has anyone heard about this?

#173: Re: What are you reading? Author: 7A_Woulf, Location: Sweden

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:26 pm
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mooxe wrote (View Post):

If this was a widespread order, I suppose theres a few hundred or maybe a few thousand Shermans that were on the farms in Russia. Has anyone heard about this?

Guess that Dima is the guy to ask about this...

But I've heard that they did the same with newer tanks (was it T-60 and T-72?) in the 80's and 90's; -remove the turret, weapons and radios and sold/gave them away as tractors.

#174: Re: What are you reading? Author: dj,

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:07 pm
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Just picked-up Beevor's The Fall of Berlin 1945 and a Dungeons and Dragons saga book. Got an unbelievable deal 50% off at Borders...store is closing so they had everything marked down at least half off. Amazon is driving Borders and Barnes & Nobles to the brink of bankruptcy.

#175: Re: What are you reading? Author: Lt_2nd,

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:59 pm
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Just finished reading the "Brenner Assignment" about the OSS missions to disrupt and block axis supply routes in Northern Italy and the Brenner Pass late in the war. Got it at borders for 9$ also on amazon for about the same price. Its an easy and entertaining read.

#176: Re: What are you reading? Author: kawasaky, Location: Zagreb, Hrvatska

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:36 pm
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revisiting some classics after a number of years:
Alexis de Tocqueville, The Old Regime and the Revolution
John Locke, Letters Concerning Toleration
Jean-Jacques Rousseau, The Social Contract

#177: Re: What are you reading? Author: Luuraja,

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:32 pm
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Hmm, seems like my first post in this forum.

Since I was forced to live behind Iron Curtain in my young ages, so I'm very interested of what was going on in Western front and in Pacific theater.
So last one I read was Stephen Ambrose's "D-Day, June 6, 1944"

But now I'm reading memoirs of German Panzercommander Otto Carius "Tigers in the Mud" - Amazon
There's lot of talk about battles in Estonia, my homeland, in 1944.

#178: Re: What are you reading? Author: dj,

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:53 pm
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Yeah here in America...we had similar effect, where all the government and schools taught was West Front (mostly D-Day of course) and Pacific. Almost NO mention of East Front due to Cold War propaganda here too. Just barely a mention of Stalingrad and a little on capture of Berlin...but it was always with negative spin like the Ruskies were hordes from the Steppe and only cared about spreading Communism, etc.

#179: Re: What are you reading? Author: Luuraja,

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:35 pm
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Yeah, that's the sad thing of World War II.
For our little nation was difficult to see, who was right or not. The only one my grandparents wanted to see, was independent and neutral Estonian Republic...
But I am an Soviet product, I was an October Child and Pionier and last but not least served in Soviet Army Air Forces (80th OshAP, Su-25 Frogfoot mechanik). Somehow that was very useful experience.

#180: Re: What are you reading? Author: platoon_michael, Location: Right behind you

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:51 am
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It's hard finding a good book on the Western Front.
I would love to find a good book that covers operation Barbarossa.

There was a 3 book series years ago I got from Boarders but it read so horribly I took them back.
Had to fight like hell but they took em,never even made it through the first book.

I read Otto's book Tigers in the Mud,pretty good.

Last 2 books that I read that I really enjoyed was "RAID" by Abe Baum.
Very,very well written and just a Great story.
And
"The Longest Winter" by Alex Kershaw.
This book covers the 394th IR Platoon that eventually becomes the Most decorated Platoon in WWII

I strongly suggest both these books and that you read them in the order posted.
Assuming you don't already know the 2 stories.

I haven't read anything in a long time,I'm way over due.

#181: Re: What are you reading? Author: tigercub, Location: charters towers

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:04 am
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1.Infantry Aces by Franz Kurowski pretty good read!

2.Shatttered Sword.....new info on the battle of midway

both online Amazon

Tigercub

#182: Re: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:29 pm
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Now reading A Perfect Hell, sorry of the "Devils Brigade," its pretty good. Half way in I had to go watch the movie... which ofcourse was pure Hollywood EXCEPT!!! for how the Canadian came marching in with band playing, kilts and the high arm drill. That was the best part in the movie.

The book centers on some main characters and their exploits mostly behind enemy lines. Lots of infiltration, hunting, recon and silent killing. A good read.

#183: Re: What are you reading? Author: Dima,

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:05 pm
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You can call it commercial :)

The new book by the Russian historian A.Isaev and producer A.Drabkin was recently released:
Barbarossa: THrough Soviet eyes.

I've read that in Russian and I strongly suggest to read the book to anyone who is interested in EF history.

#184: Re: What are you reading? Author: Dima,

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:55 pm
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The new book Soldaten, was released recently in Germany.
The myth that the Nazi-era German armed forces, the Wehrmacht, was not involved in war crimes persisted for decades after the war. Now two German researchers have destroyed it once and for all. Newly published conversations between German prisoners of war, secretly recorded by the Allies, reveal horrifying details of violence against civilians, rape and genocide.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,755385,00.html

#185: Re: What are you reading? Author: dj,

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:39 am
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Thanks for sharing that and providing the link. That's saying something if Germans themselves admit to such atrocities. It is very annoying that here in America the war on the East Front was almost totally ignored. In that the REAL terror and horror of the EF is unknown to the younger generations. In reality both sides committed shocking crimes against humanity of a scale impossible to imagine in today's standards. We are too quick to forget history...doomed to repeat it.
Yeah it's good to see such honesty from the Germans themselves to dispute the myth that only the SS did these heinous war crimes.

I think this is why Germany was so scared of the advancing Russians in the late war...because they knew they wanted revenge for rape, pillage and murder of so many Soviets. That does not justify how many German civilians suffered similar horrific deaths...but after all they started the fight, not the Russians.

#186: Re: What are you reading? Author: Blackstump, Location: Hunter Valley Australia

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:36 am
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mooxe wrote (View Post):

Now reading A Perfect Hell, sorry of the "Devils Brigade," its pretty good. Half way in I had to go watch the movie... which ofcourse was pure Hollywood EXCEPT!!! for how the Canadian came marching in with band playing, kilts and the high arm drill. That was the best part in the movie.

The book centers on some main characters and their exploits mostly behind enemy lines. Lots of infiltration, hunting, recon and silent killing. A good read.

just reading were they used a rare mg for these troops " the johnson smg"

#187: Re: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:09 am
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Dima is there an english version of that book?

#188: Re: What are you reading? Author: Dima,

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:55 am
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Doubt it as it was just recently released in Germany so will take some time for localization.

#189: Re: What are you reading? Author: Therion,

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 12:09 am
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Dima wrote (View Post):

The new book Soldaten, was released recently in Germany.
The myth that the Nazi-era German armed forces, the Wehrmacht, was not involved in war crimes persisted for decades after the war. Now two German researchers have destroyed it once and for all. Newly published conversations between German prisoners of war, secretly recorded by the Allies, reveal horrifying details of violence against civilians, rape and genocide.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,755385,00.html

Weird thing, we never got a myth of good Wehrmacht in Poland.

#190: Re: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 2:52 am
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Well no army is innocent. The German regular armies innocence is granted "when compared to" the massive atrocities that happened at the hands of the SS. From the link Dima posted, the stories there on soldiers/pilots killing civilians is something we still hear in the news every month. We should assume all militaries partake in murdering which is confined to very small elements like platoon or below.

#191: Re: What are you reading? Author: Dima,

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:01 am
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Quote:

We should assume all militaries partake in murdering which is confined to very small elements like platoon or below.

That's true for most of the armies but the army of nazi Germany was taking part in such atrocities on a regular basis as it was a continuation of the state policy.

#192: Re: What are you reading? Author: Therion,

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:25 am
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Dima wrote (View Post):

Quote:

We should assume all militaries partake in murdering which is confined to very small elements like platoon or below.

That's true for most of the armies but the army of nazi Germany was taking part in such atrocities on a regular basis as it was a continuation of the state policy.

#193: Re: What are you reading? Author: platoon_michael, Location: Right behind you

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:36 pm
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Since were all high on the Navy seal thing have any of you ever read any of the books by Richard Marcinko?
The dud is without a doubt the "Ultimate Baddass"

#194: Re: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 11:42 pm
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Just ordered from Amazon...

"If You Survive" by George Wilson

"Penalty Strike: The Memoirs Of A Red Army Penal Company Commander" by Alexander Pyl'cyn

"Death Traps: The Survival of an American Armored Division in World War II " by Belton Y. Cooper

$37.18 with tax and shipping incl, not bad.

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#195: Re: What are you reading? Author: Dima,

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 5:13 am
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"Penalty Strike: The Memoirs Of A Red Army Penal Company Commander" by Alexander Pyl'cyn
"Death Traps Survival American Division" by Belton Y. Cooper

i've read these 2 in Russian - good ones Smile

#196: Re: What are you reading? Author: Priapus,

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:38 pm
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Noway! I've just ordered the penal commander one too. I assume you've both read "Forgotten Soldier" too?

#197: Re: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:54 pm
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Yes. Its the one book I reccomend to everyone.

#198: Re: What are you reading? Author: Priapus,

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:13 am
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Yeah, it was incredible. Although there appears to be some debate about the authors legitimacy. A big budget film adaptation was canceled recently because of the broken economy. Looking forward to seeing things from the other sides perspective, although I can't imagine it being much cheerier.

#199: Re: What are you reading? Author: mooxe,

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:07 am
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I bet this would be one of those movies that could never measure up to the book.

#200: Re: What are you reading? Author: 7A_Woulf, Location: Sweden

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 6:30 pm