CSO_Linebacker wrote: |
Troger, you really have no clue. Two companies, that are not Simtek, make the decisions on these things.
I am not part of the re-releases, so I couldn't tell you anything but the politics. To say that my hard work, and that of another well respected graphics guy, is 'importing mods'...is just another statement from someone who is not involved, that reaffirms my opening statement. |
schrecken wrote: |
It was a re-release...not a give away for free release.
You should say "thank you" that enhancements and added value were included in the re-release package all at no extra cost. I worked for simtek on the CoI release.... my bill and hence the cost to you was $0.00. This is the case for most, not all, involved in the CoI release. And let's not forget, you are not obliged to purchase anything... it's your choice, so why winge. If on the other hand you want to by CC it's now available and supported. What is better value .. a re-release of old code with no enhancement or a release with enhancements and XP compatibility fix at no extra cost? If you can't do the math then common sense will get you no where. |
ANZAC_Tack wrote: |
holy shit batman!
i got pernamently banned from CCS for 10% of that rant! troger, that was some outburst. please remember this forum is read by children, and obviously written also. grow up bloke. shrecky just said simple facts. try the 'edit' button. |
ANZAC_Tack wrote: |
i respect your opinion.
and thankyou for using less graphic language. CoI didnt bring thousands back to the game, yes i agree to some extent it was to 'old' to re distribute, but as a 5 year fan of that version, i appreciated the XP fix, better tank pathing, new GC, recoded maps(vastly improved vehicle movements),the almost elimanated tank 'dance of death',and a few new units, and basically making it RR0822(my favourite for 3+ years).NO mod ever has or will fix such problems. i appreciated the rework,thus luke warm liked CoI,but i respect some didnt. changes where made, lots of time and effort,testing was done, this you neglected to mention or appreciate. If u choose not to play, thats A OK by me,thats your Right. but to defame all by association...its gone to far. if we ever see ccv rework same will apply,problems NO MOD maker can EVER fix will be. many features will be added.again u can choose to purchase OR not. I can take critism from something i have done, but i dont work for cso/simtek/strategy3tactics/matrix. that would require onging pay. i just occationally have my say,and tested. i have assisted dima and panzerjagen, testing for free also, and i really enjoyed there work, and said so here! ditto anything else! all for FREE! if u make a new mod, want extensive testing, im available! unbiased and detailed critique. i dont get into flaming, never have, im just sticking up for an aussie who got shat on for association. i wont begrudge troger,or anybody else. never have or will, its all bad karma to me. |
Senior_Drill wrote: |
Troger, one thing is that you are kinda aiming at the wrong target. The original intent of Simtek, through a license from the source code owner, Destineer Studios, was to fix the Direct X problems and make the games available again from somewhere other than bargain bins and EBay. Period. |
Senior_Drill wrote: |
That's Developer work. The only publisher and distributor that was interested in the Marketing work was Matrix Games. Matrix, as publishers oft times do in the gaming industry, set some conditions of there own, the first and fore most one was the adding of the mods.
It was not a Simtek idea (and there were only four or five of us at that time), and in fact, when I first heard about it, as the one who would have to actually do the files, it was already a fiat acompli - the rights had already been negotiated with Ron Gretz and a new name chosen. It was "Go and Do, or We Get Someone Who Will." The publisher also set the price, against all suggestions from what they viewed as "just hired hands". In the CoI forums, I tried to be as open about it as I could about what the re-release had become and got into trouble for it. Matrix Games was calling the shots, held all the cards and signed the oft delayed and shorted paychecks. I still haven't been paid for work I did well over a year ago and probably never will be, so I should be the one with the attitude instead of you. A lot of the antagonism and anger was directed at CSO and the CSO website, when the objections should have been raised on the Matrix forums, not that it would have done any good there, either. A lot of people got their hackles raised and barked a lot at each other, but it was like protesting a road repaving to the dump truck driver instead of at the department that ordered it. |
ANZAC_Lord4war wrote: |
lmao off troger saying simtek is suss
ohh wiping away the tears |
ANZAC_Tack wrote: |
holy shit batman!
i got pernamently banned from CCS for 10% of that rant! troger, that was some outburst. please remember this forum is read by children, and obviously written also. grow up bloke. shrecky just said simple facts. try the 'edit' button. |
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