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#1: Working on a new mod "Warszawa 44" Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:38 am
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Hello, i will start working on a mod called "Warszawa 44", it will be ofcourse about the 1944 warsaw uprising Very Happy

I have to say that i dont have a lot of expirience in Moding, and i have 0 experience moding CC5. I did some small work with CC2. So i belive I have the basic to start, I must start somehow right?

All the help will be wellcomed, so if you can and most important, want to help in some way, just post here. Wink

Bye!

#2: Author: Lähitaistelu, Location: Altoona, PA

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:06 pm
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I have a little experience editing sounds in cc5, and I might be able to learn to use some other things. Anyways, I want to help however I can.

#3: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:27 pm
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Thanks Lähitaistelu, i will contact you in the future to talk about the sounds.

#4: Author: Searry, Location: Finland

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:58 pm
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The maps will take years to complete, if you have a normal life and a family.

#5: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:20 pm
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Searry wrote:

The maps will take years to complete, if you have a normal life and a family.

I dopnt have a normal family, thats something Laughing

I know it will take years, i really thougth in 2 years at least, i hope less than that.
But there are a lot og mods out there that have a lot of new maps so its not imposible, and if somebody want to work on some maps he will be welcomed. Wink

#6: Author: Nembo,

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:56 pm
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Great mod idea, I thought of doing it for CC2 but never did much.

#7: Author: Ubaew,

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:22 am
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i can provide Polish speeches. If u need any information, extra sources etc.please feel free to ask Polish CC community: http://www.jagdtiger.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=35&sid=99cb6cd4de3dacc519d7160d72e75eee
We`ll be happy to help.
cheers!!!

#8: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:56 pm
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Heya Ubaew, Dont you know a good Polish to English translator?
I am really needing one Laughing

I have this one but is not very good
http://www.translation-guide.com/free_online_translators.php?from=Polish&to=English

Thanks!

#9: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:21 am
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I have Found an exelent source of Aerial Pictures for the maps, the pictures are from 1935 to 1944 (taken just days before the uprising started).

I dont have a lot of experience doing maps, so if somebody wants to help me doing the maps i can send him the photographs and all the info to make the maps.

Please, if somebody wants to help he will be welcomed.

Thanks

#10: Author: Ubaew,

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:53 pm
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I`ve never needed this kind of translator and suppose is difficult because different construction and grammar. Short text I can try translate into English if you stock with something. BTW I suppose you know "Rising44. The Battle for Warsaw" Norman Davies? This position should be helpful.
Cheers!!!

#11: Author: CSO_Talorgan,

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:12 pm
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I now have a little experience with strat maps and general graphics.

#12: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:12 pm
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Thanks CSO_Talorgan, i colecting textures rigth now for starting with the maps.

PD: I couldnt find any new picture of the Dirlenganwer or Kaminski Brigades, and not even one of the Aserbaidschan Legion Sad

#13: Author: Ubaew,

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:29 am
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Dirlewanger Wink

#14: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:30 pm
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Yes, sorry. Embarassed

The first Map, Kierbedzia Bridge, its almost done, but there are some things i still have to improve.

#15: Author: witman505,

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:24 am
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You should know that in warsaw uprising polish AK army (country army) captured 2 panters tank ( one called Magda ) , 1 Tiger tank , 1 Hetzer called Chwat, 2 sdd kfz 251/1 , armored car ( Kubus ) . This tank except Tiger ( it fought 1 -2 days ad was abandoned because of some mechanical problem of something) fought ang gave much firepower. They were abandoned too because of out of fuel and ammo.

#16: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:38 am
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I know Witman, but thanks anyway. Wink

#17: Author: Ubaew,

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:54 pm
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Well, according new research Germans didn`t use Tiger tanks during Uprising. No evidence exist. I suppose is a myth...

#18: Author: witman505,

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:05 pm
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u're wrong Ubaew, Germans used Tiger tank - only 5 tanks . 31 july tanks were discharched from railway trucks on station Warszawa-Praga. They have orders to protect main street and Gemrnas who wanted to pull back behind district controlled throught AK army. Those tanks were fixed in German and send back to the front line - it was reinforcement for 3 rd panzer diviosion SS Totenkompf -Tanks didnt return to division and they took battle in warsaw in ochota district in 1 - 4 th august - it was bad decision, 2 of them were destroyed , 1 captured by AK and used in combat for 2 days ( abondoned of some mechanical problems ). This is all story , if u want u can read it in bokk
Warszawa 1944 Militaria nr 148

#19: Author: witman505,

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:14 pm
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Zaitsev in this book Militaria 148 Warszawa u have all German rmoured units in warsaw from 31.07 - to the end of uprising - take look it.

#20: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:59 pm
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I have the book but in polish. Sad

Only the descriptions of the photos are in english.

#21: Author: witman505,

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:34 pm
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ok if u need some help translate and which pages of this book i can help u , kono505 [at] op [dot] pl - my email . I hope this is good idea to make your mod without problems - because i from PL Smile

#22: Author: Ubaew,

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:16 pm
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witman505 wrote:

u're wrong Ubaew, Germans used Tiger tank - only 5 tanks . 31 july tanks were discharched from railway trucks on station Warszawa-Praga. They have orders to protect main street and Gemrnas who wanted to pull back behind district controlled throught AK army. Those tanks were fixed in German and send back to the front line - it was reinforcement for 3 rd panzer diviosion SS Totenkompf -Tanks didnt return to division and they took battle in warsaw in ochota district in 1 - 4 th august - it was bad decision, 2 of them were destroyed , 1 captured by AK and used in combat for 2 days ( abondoned of some mechanical problems ). This is all story , if u want u can read it in bokk
Warszawa 1944 Militaria nr 148

Well, Wikipedia has a information only about Pantera tanks. I heard about captured panzer IV that was often confused with Tiger: http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/czolg_gustawa.htm
Unfortunately damaged by young kid
The Warsaw Rising Museum hasn`t mention about Tiger as well: http://www.1944.pl/index.php?a=site_text&id=12119&se_id=12269

#23: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:30 pm
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Thanks Wittman, and Ubaew.

#24: Author: Ubaew,

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:53 am
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you`re welcome Wink

Anyway mod should included only this captured tanks those were used in battle (that my personal point of view).
cheers

#25: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:11 am
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Thanks for the suport guys.
There will be a very small amount of tanks and improvised armored vehicles in the mod. Wink

But, i am still needing a Map Maker, i have tryed to do some maps but i dont have the abilities. Sad

#26: Author: uruk-hai, Location: Gliwice, PL

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:32 am
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Ivan_Zaitzev wrote:

I have the book but in polish. Sad

Only the descriptions of the photos are in english.

About english language version (N.Davies 44'Uprasing book) you should to ask on Amozon site .

Tiger: when We captured 1 Tiger tank. It was operational status, but one young AK-man broken down manual gear box. Then Tiger was lost....

#27: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:31 am
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Ubaew wrote:

i can provide Polish speeches. If u need any information, extra sources etc.please feel free to ask Polish CC community: http://www.jagdtiger.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=35&sid=99cb6cd4de3dacc519d7160d72e75eee
We`ll be happy to help.
cheers!!!

Looks like the forum is down Sad

I am looking for good OOBs of german and Polish, there are more batalions of what i thougth in the AK. Can somebody help me with this?

#28: Author: witman505,

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:12 pm
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what u need?? more details ...

#29: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:30 am
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I have a lot of Polish Batalions tath where involved in the Uprising, i am looking for the compañys that where in each batalion.

And i need a good german OOB because the ones i have found are not complete. Sad

#30: Author: Awelon,

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:02 pm
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Hello..

I just found this post.. Are you still gonna do this mod?

I think it´s a great idea!

Just hope this project isn´t dead already...

#31: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:39 pm
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Well, the thing is that, there had been a lot of changes in my life, and this year i will move alone, study reasons, and my pc is going to stay here.

I have a lot of info, but i must put it in order.

We can say that the project is stoped. Sad

I will keep colecting information so when i have time i can retake the project.

#32: Re: Working on a new mod "Warszawa 44" Author: nuggaprovst,

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:02 pm
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Ivan_Zaitzev wrote:

Hello, i will start working on a mod called "Warszawa 44", it will be ofcourse about the 1944 warsaw uprising Very Happy

Bye!

Quote:

in case you didnt knew.1st polish army under brigadier Zygmunt Bering tried to reinforce the small russian bridgeheads that they had on the western side of the Vistula.He did it without authorisation... they arrived but were ordered to evacuate by Stalin.Idont know what day they arrived and what day they evacuated or they even did any figthing,
the senior polish commanders dissapeared after the evacuation and a little trip to Moscow. I will try to find out whether they did any fighting in the bridgeheads...but it sure must have been a bitter pill to swallow...the evac

#33: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:13 pm
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I knew it.

The nigth of September 16, Commander of 1st polish division Zygmunt Berling ordered General Galicki commander of the 3rd polish division to cross the Vistula, they tried to cross for some days and made a little advance north and south of the Poniatowski Bridge where they created a bridgehead and expanded it some blocks. By the 19 the Polish of the 1st army and the AK where figthing side by side, but for the 22 the bridgehead was destroyed. The 1st Polish Army lost at least 2000 soldiers taking Praga district and crossing the Vistula.

I don´t know if they will be included in the Mod.

#34: Author: nuggaprovst,

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:26 pm
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Ivan_Zaitzev wrote:

I knew it.

The nigth of September 16, Commander of 1st polish division Zygmunt Berling ordered General Galicki commander of the 3rd polish division to cross the Vistula, they tried to cross for some days and made a little advance north and south of the Poniatowski Bridge where they created a bridgehead and expanded it some blocks. By the 19 the Polish of the 1st army and the AK where figthing side by side, but for the 22 the bridgehead was destroyed. The 1st Polish Army lost at least 2000 soldiers taking Praga district and crossing the Vistula.

I don´t know if they will be included in the Mod.

thanks mate...but am i right that the russians did have some brigdeheads on the west side of the river?...i know gen.Rokkosovskij told stalin that he couldnt take the city.
well i hope you find the time to make the mod

#35: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:27 am
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A Screen Capture of SS-Sturmbrigade Dirlewanger, i still need to work on it but the final product will be like this.

#36: Author: nuggaprovst,

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:47 am
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Ivan_Zaitzev wrote:

A Screen Capture of SS-Sturmbrigade Dirlewanger, i still need to work on it but the final product will be like this.

looks great

#37: Re: Working on a new mod "Warszawa 44" Author: pzjager, Location: Paris

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:51 pm
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Ivan_Zaitzev wrote:

Hello, i will start working on a mod called "Warszawa 44", it will be ofcourse about the 1944 warsaw uprising Very Happy

Bye!

I would like to help this mod. JUst, I would not like it to be like a modern video play: kill them all, with 10xtimes more weapons and.... we re good when you are bad.

Please send me a PM if you are still interested.

PJ

#38: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:57 pm
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Did you recived my PM Pzjager?

#39: Author: pzjager, Location: Paris

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:22 pm
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Ivan_Zaitzev wrote:

Did you recived my PM Pzjager?

Hi Ivan,

yes, i just checked and well received it.

Tonight, I am just very sad about what happened in Serbia two days ago. Sad and...revolted.

I will send you a PM soon, russian friend.

With my very best regards, as well to all the people from Chypria, Greece and Spain.

Frederic

#40: Author: Aywan, Location: EU

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:08 am
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Any news on the mod? I found this link http://www.whatfor.prv.pl/ hope it will help

#41: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:02 pm
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Heya Aywan, the mod is currently stoped because i am very busy with real life, but its not gorgotten!

#42: Author: Popov, Location: Warsaw,Poland

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:59 pm
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So if you ever decide to continue it, let us know. I'd love to try your mod. It may be my ignorance, but I've never seen Warsaw uprising in any game before, let alone in CC.

#43: Author: Tippi-Simo, Location: Helsinki

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:35 pm
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So while we are waiting this mod I´m gonna post some pictures from Warsaw uprising museum.

P.S. Sorry, too lazy to resize them. If someone is having trouble I´ll delete them.

P.P.S. I am not a pro photographer sorry!

#44: Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:49 pm
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Thanks for the photos ...very nice.

#45: Author: Ivan_Zaitzev,

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:47 pm
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Really good pics! Thanks

#46: Author: thrombox,

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:13 pm
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Just read Rising '44 by Norman Davies it is considered the gospel of the Warsaw Rising, and also delves deep into some of the strategic aspects of the rising..

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