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#1: SOC German Vetmod Author: pzjager, Location: Paris

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:00 pm
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Hi to you all, SOC fans,

SOC has been released 2 weeks ago and seems to be OK to most of CCplayers so far. I did the most "historical" mod -but fun to play as well- I could do.

To be honest, the basic SOC is the version I played during the development of SOC. That's the version you play and like. There is an other one, in my computer (the small/great one, Win 9 Cool

, which I play everyday, which is the ultimate difficulty SOC....

Do you want it? Or is the standard mod already OK.....or already too difficult?

Cheers
PJ

#2: Author: francois,

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:19 pm
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Very Happy

Give it to us please. I'm a bit of a masochist when it comes to gaming, I actually try to make games as hard as possible and end up enjoying losing.

But basically speaking how is it that different to the vanilla mod? Do the Germans end up with even less ammo?

#3: Author: pzjager, Location: Paris

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:30 pm
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francois wrote:

Nothing to do with ammo...

PJ

#4: Author: squadleader_id, Location: Soerabaja

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:46 pm
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Yes, please!
Even if it's (your term) a bit of a cheat mod...I want it!
The CC5 AI is just not aggressive enough unless more infantry are coded as vehicles Smile

With the current SAI settings...too many Russian teams are crawling to the German lines...not rushing, running and scrambling like the way I like it Very Happy

The SDK German vetmod is just brutal!

#5: Author: pzjager, Location: Paris

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:36 am
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squadleader_id wrote:

Yes, please!
Even if it's (your term) a bit of a cheat mod...I want it!
The CC5 AI is just not aggressive enough unless more infantry are coded as vehicles Smile

With the current SAI settings...too many Russian teams are crawling to the German lines...not rushing, running and scrambling like the way I like it Very Happy

The SDK German vetmod is just brutal!

Hi,

JUst don't forget that units that are coded as vehicles cannot enter in the small buildings (homes). This creates a lot of problems in city maps. That's why I did not use this kind of coding for ALLl the units. Moreover, some BG's fighting in city maps are completly out of units coded as vehicles (such the one starting at Plochad, for instance.

But anyway, once again, this german vetmod has nothing to do with the adb files. The secret is in the map files

Cheers
PJ

#6: Author: squadleader_id, Location: Soerabaja

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:35 am
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Ahh...the secret ingredient!
Some day you should let us in on the secret PJ Very Happy

So the vetmod will contain map txt files?

BTW, how about combining special map coding and vehicle-coded infantry?
You'd need to reconfigure the BTDs for the vetmod...no more VLs inside buildings (place it just outside the bulding)...rename it say...Building X Entrance...that should work. And this should give us a very aggressive AI...brutal!

#7: ! Author: ANZAC_Tack, Location: Australia

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:47 am
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how dare u jepodise my marriage further!!!

im struggeling to get sleep with current soc as is!!!

and wife will join'CC widows' soon i believe!

oh the snow...the pain! the pleasure...the harder it is to survive, the more exhilerating my lot is!!!...sometimes snatching defeat from victory is the greatest pleasure!

...i think i need professional help...

...burp!

#8: Author: pzjager, Location: Paris

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:15 am
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squadleader_id wrote:

Ahh...the secret ingredient!
Some day you should let us in on the secret PJ Very Happy

No VL's inside buildings is a good idea, but cannot be generalised...That's I already made with my Vetmod.... in some areas.

SL, please don't stick to this vehicle-coded infantry. It has been a TT tool made for BoB. It has some advantages and a lot of disavantages. I will CERTAINLY NOT generalise it in ANY of my mods.

Last:it seems that you believe that SDK is more difficult than SOC.... Just play 5 days in trhe GC and you will see. THe difficulty of a mod can ONLY be checked with time. Not the first day.

Cheers
PJ

P.S. Anyway, coding the map files is much more interesting. Forget the adb's....or I will believe that Squadleader is just a nickname of Salhexe (joke)

P.S.2 In a former message, you used the word "Cheat". THere is no cheat here. My mods are not CC2

#9: Author: Wittmann44,

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:02 pm
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A mod to make SOC more harder? Great!!! Wink

sorry but where is the link to the vetmod? Wink

#10: Author: pzjager, Location: Paris

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:09 am
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Wittmann44 wrote:

A mod to make SOC more harder? Great!!! Wink

sorry but where is the link to the vetmod? Wink

Hi,

It is not available yet. I am still working on it.

Frédéric

#11: Author: jemcasdagli,

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:07 pm
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By the way - just wanted to say SOC rocks - many thanks

#12: Author: pzjager, Location: Paris

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:39 pm
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jemcasdagli wrote:

By the way - just wanted to say SOC rocks - many thanks

Hi,

The ultimate German SOC submod is still under dervelopment. I want it as the best before the release. Just wait ....
In the meantime SDK V2.0 with SDK:DK will be available. And I ampstill working on BVir Hakeim and -why not?- Kharkhov'43..... (HGere, I need some help!).

Cheers
Have fun! The must important!

Panzerjäger

#13: Author: LiveFree,

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:26 pm
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pzjager wrote:

jemcasdagli wrote:

By the way - just wanted to say SOC rocks - many thanks

The ultimate German SOC submod? whats that? Smile

I hope you make it like the most difficult with an awesome AI. And Hakeim and Kharkov?... WOW...thank you pzjager for all the amazing and incredible work you put into cc. Je vuex vous dire merci pour tout!

#14: Author: jemcasdagli,

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:02 am
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and many thanks from Estonia. It is a shame I know nothing about creating mods only playing them . As the German epic defensive battles around Narva 1944 would be most interesting. there wer some very interesting German units including SS wiking with swedish, danish, norwegian, belgium and Estonian units. They even scored an amazing defiensive victory close to narva at Sinimaa ( blue mountain) - still finding soviet bodies there and a huge controvesial SS memorial to Wiking

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