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#1: Select BG or play with what you get? Author: AT_Stalky PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:10 am
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WaR
Will have both a BG selection of troops, same as in CC5, and also a locked BG where you have to play with what you are given as in CC4.
Here its CC5 style, see the BG units is brighter:


and here the FP is locked (darker), and its same idea as in CC4:


Notice the points are visible in top right side,


thanx Schreck for let this info out.

#2:  Author: AT_Stalky PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:15 am
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This is an improvement over CC4, in CC4 we cant select troops, that bad say most, and good say some.

Here both have there favourite system, and the CC4 lovers, who want to play with what they get, will have additional info as they now can see the number of units available in FP, in old cc4, one had no good info how depleted a BG was.

#3:  Author: schreckenLocation: Sydney, Australia PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:31 am
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Also see at bottom of screen points value for each team.

The addition of the points system will allow for interesting H2H single battles..... 500 pts each, 600pts each, your choice, then off to battle.

#4:  Author: AT_Stalky PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:34 am
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Yes, thats tru, but i doubt we CC4ers-CC5ers go back and play single H2H games, but said that, its usefull in H2H GC, or OP, so yes, its may be usefull.

#5:  Author: PolemarchosLocation: Polemarchopolis PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:50 pm
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buuuuhhhhhh why are there still plastic Army Men as unit icons... buuhhh

it kills all atmosphere and as it is a 1944 scenario, there are millions of pics out there

on the postive side:

wow commander skills affect over all BG capabilities? that is good

#6:  Author: final-drive PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:05 pm
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Quote:
on the postive side:

wow commander skills affect over all BG capabilities? that is good

That has always been the case since CC4, only it wasn't shown in the GUI, but stored in BGroups.adb.

#7:  Author: mooxe PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:06 pm
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The points showing can be used for GC or Ops also. Basically on the honour system though. It would be nice if you cuold set a hard limit on points so in a scenario you can only bring in 400 poins max.

Polemarchos.... I actually like the plastic army men look! Commander skills affected CC5 also.

Heres the breakdown of attributes and how they work for CC5 (gjs)..

http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=118

#8:  Author: PolemarchosLocation: Polemarchopolis PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:49 pm
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mooxe wrote:


Polemarchos.... I actually like the plastic army men look!



well that is a taste question anyways... but still maybe a pic mini mod can be made by the creators and added to the game as optional addition.

#9:  Author: mooxe PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:59 pm
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Yes... Squadleader's unit pics are very good and raise the bar for all new mods or commercial releases.

#10:  Author: TejszdLocation: Canada PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:43 pm
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Polemarchos wrote:
buuuuhhhhhh why are there still plastic Army Men as unit icons... buuhhh


The positive of thing about the icons is that you do not have to pay for the pictures. I know there are some free ones out there but finding them and making sure they are free is not easy....

#11:  Author: platoon_michaelLocation: Right behind you PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:48 am
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Did anybody fix the cheesy voice over on the original video?

Does game play force both a defensive and offensive style of play for both sides?

The plastic Armey men? no problem since it is a game and all games should have a game appeal to them.


Anyone want to come to my house for Chicken tonight?

#12:  Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:00 am
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Thanks for the compliments, Mooxe! I love the plastic soldiers look! Custom unit icon artwork takes forever to put together though Sad
But it's true...the original CC4-CC5 unit icon graphics could use an upgrade...color plastic men is great for CC (IMO a lot better than tiny B&W WW2 photos)...but the original icons weren't that great and the art looks dated.
The modern army icons for CCMT looks great...a WW2 version of those should look better than these original artwork from 10 years ago.

BTW, fixed BG only works for set-piece single battles...for Ops and Campaigns...you need the option to be able to choose your units.[/b]

#13:  Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:12 am
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Why does the commander skills/attributes have to replace the BG commander photo?
I know the commander photo is just eye candy...but it's part of the cool thing about the BG interface screen.
If you want to display commander skills...a smaller box below the photo would look much better.

#14:  Author: Therion PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:46 pm
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Personally, I don't like photos as icons. Wargame-counter-style icons from CCMT were my favourite.



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