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Close Combat Series -> Total Realism Sub Mod

#1:  Author: DigsLocation: Ontario, Canada PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:40 pm
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The rankmod doesn't work properly with anything, it's really buggy. Rolling Eyes

#2:  Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:02 am
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Digs wrote:
The rankmod doesn't work properly with anything, it's really buggy. Rolling Eyes

The rank mod changes graphics in the gadget files...so of course it only works for the specific mod it was designed for Smile
What was it designed for? GJS 4.4?

#3:  Author: DigsLocation: Ontario, Canada PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:46 am
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The rankmod made for Regular CC5 and GJS v4.4, both are buggy. Does it not cause problems with BoS?.

#4:  Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:51 am
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Digs wrote:
The rankmod made for Regular CC5 and GJS v4.4, both are buggy. Does it not cause problems with BoS?.

The rankmod should not be used for other mods other than regular CC5 and GJS44 then.
Like I said before...the rankmod replaces rank graphics and soldier attributes graphics in the gadget files. This cannot be done via a simple Plugin using the config manager...as it's basically a complete new gadget file (ScrnGadg.gdg, not sure about GameGadg.gdg) with the customized rank graphics and attributes.
If you use the rankmod for other mods...then the gadget files for that mod would definitely be messed up Smile

For other mods to use something similar to this rank mod...you'd have to manually customize the gadget files themselves using gadgetmunger or RTBTool.

As for BoS45...I'm incorporating the rank "numbers" from the mod...customized for BoS45 gadgets...but not using the attributes numbers (too many numbers on the screen! Very Happy )

#5:  Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:01 am
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karlmortar wrote:
Not sure if these are bugs associated to your mod, but lets have a lookie:

The RM Centaur's turret is misplaced. Its supposed to be closer to the driver's hatch, not in the middle.


Hmm...tanks with turrets positioned off center (not in the middle) can cause problems in CC5. The turret rotation animation should be okay...but when the turret is placed somewhat to the front or back of the chassis...you'll end up with jerky tank animation when moving. The turret will stay in place while moving while the chassis jerks forwards and back.
Anyone ever found a workaround for this? Maybe a formula for maximum shift allowed of the turret from the chassis center?

#6:  Author: DigsLocation: Ontario, Canada PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:11 am
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Just to clear this up Squadleader_id. It was Mochoho who was talking about it not working with TRSM v0.97, not myself. Wink

I've tried the rankmod's for which they were intended for. It messes\mix's up the weapon icons. Firing effects come out sideways, amongst other things I can't remember. :lol3

#7:  Author: Dima PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:29 am
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Hmm...tanks with turrets positioned off center (not in the middle) can cause problems in CC5. The turret rotation animation should be okay...but when the turret is placed somewhat to the front or back of the chassis...you'll end up with jerky tank animation when moving. The turret will stay in place while moving while the chassis jerks forwards and back.

not really, and for sure not in this case Smile.

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Anyone ever found a workaround for this? Maybe a formula for maximum shift allowed of the turret from the chassis center?

never seen such.

#8:  Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:23 am
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Dima wrote:
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Hmm...tanks with turrets positioned off center (not in the middle) can cause problems in CC5. The turret rotation animation should be okay...but when the turret is placed somewhat to the front or back of the chassis...you'll end up with jerky tank animation when moving. The turret will stay in place while moving while the chassis jerks forwards and back.

not really, and for sure not in this case Smile.

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Anyone ever found a workaround for this? Maybe a formula for maximum shift allowed of the turret from the chassis center?

never seen such.

Well it happens...just try messing about with the X, Y turret settings Wink

#9:  Author: DigsLocation: Ontario, Canada PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:21 am
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What the hell? I didn't start this new post, I only replied in the v0.97 bug post by Dima!?.

#10:  Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:26 am
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Take it easy, Digs...forum mods just branched out this into a new thread Wink

#11:  Author: DigsLocation: Ontario, Canada PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:32 am
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Thanks for the reply, this is the second time it's happened in two days. I wasn't sure what was going on; this is new.

#12:  Author: mooxe PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:17 pm
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I believe rankmod only works with regular CC5 5.01. It has been incorperated into other mod plugins also.

#13:  Author: CSO_Linebacker PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:31 am
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The hull hotpoint...which controls the location of the turret...can be anywhere, and does not, that I have ever seen really effect the movement. Where-ever the hull hotpoint is, that is what the exe moves. I've made plenty of vehicles with off-center hotpopints and the only real issues that result from hotpoints that are in exxagerated locations to the front, back, left or right, are:

the vehicle may look strange when making turns...because its' access of rotation is that hull hotpoint.

if they are custom vehicles, the shadows can get screwed up and adjustments would need to be made to make them line up.

Other than that, I have never seen any real problems. Heck most of Atomic's stock vehicles are an even number in width, meaning that the hotpoint will never be in the center of the hull.

#14:  Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:19 am
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My experience with making trucks with AA MG turrets located at the back of the vehicle...when moving the truck chassis will jump position like the truck is making hops Smile

Edit: Although not exact center...most vehicles have turrets near the middle of the chassis. But turrets extremely shifted to the back or front are the problem.



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