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I think it changed with CCMT - as it had briefings and each battle had a justification and story beyond "unit moved on the same map so there will be a battle and then another unit on another map will move and another will move and there will be another battle with some other units until the units will go to the other side of the map". It doesn't have triggers and debriefings, so the story and soldiers aren't really important, but I like it the best from the CC games released so far.
I like playing with various stories and concepts in missions and CCMT allows me to do some of that. |
mooxe wrote: |
The mission breifings of CCMT were horrible and ofcourse the same for each battle. Useless headings like Command and Signals. Whoever wrote them either had no military experience or no military experience that involve writing orders. |
mooxe wrote: |
When it came down to it though, the missions were all the same. Kill everything. |
Sulla wrote: | ||
None of the major games companies pay testers! Testing has always been classed as a "privelidge" Sometimes I really do wonder where some people et their ideas of how games are developled and how games companies work. |
Pzt_Kevin_dtn wrote: |
I do agree the CCMT is more like a training tool than an actual game. |
Tejszd wrote: |
Therion, What is your beef with CC4/5? A lot of people think the mini game or strat layer makes it a better game. If Sulla would tell us I bet COI has outsold CCMT by a huge margin, mainly because CCMT is less of a game and more a training tool. The CC community has always been split between CC2, CC3 and CC4/5 and people would like to see the re-releases or CC6 move in the direction of their favorite. Well WAR is a gold version/re-release of CC4 which had a strat layer so quit complaining about. Just like the others should stop complaining about the Matrix/S3T approach as they have decided what they are going to do so let them execute their plan and vote with your dollars on the re-releases and the eventual CC6 if/when it comes…. Still haven’t seen you post any tactical level enhancement suggestions??? |
squadleader_id wrote: |
I don't think Therion is a wargame fan (CMIIW)...but more of a PC gamer type.
If you've played wargames (both early PC wargames and true board/counters/dice wargames)...you get used to the abstractions and simplifications both on Strategic and Tactical level for the sake of gameplay. |
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Strawman argument. It's perfectly possible to play a wargame on one level. It's not like all tabletop wargames are grand strategy/strategic/operational/tactical/skirmish hybrids. |
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Thanks. Those mods files that have been listed on a torrent server to branch out to other circles of the internet. If there is something wrong with hosting mod files on this server, and listing what is available at CCS via torrents please tell me.
There has not been, and there never has been copyrighted software of any kind hosted at this site, ever. |
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Umm...I just used uncle google...didn't need to dig deeper.
I know for fact that even testers of cheap flash/phone games get paid |
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I know for fact that even testers of cheap flash/phone games get paid |
squadleader_id wrote: |
Just that it might be easier to accept the abstractions if you've played old school wargames |
squadleader_id wrote: |
CC is a great game system for wargamers with limited gaming time |
Therion wrote: |
If I wanted additional abstraction, I would play C&C . |
Sulla wrote: |
seems the A Hole who did post the files left more traces than he thought! |
flick wrote: |
I'm so out of the loop, I didn't even know we could download the beta version of WAR and CCMAT*
*Will it be available to buy? |
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I'm so out of the loop, I didn't even know we could download the beta version of WAR and CCMAT*
*Will it be available to buy? We can't...legallly |
Roel wrote: |
I was also surprised to find someone preferring CCMT over the 'mini-game' series, and as you know, as far as I'm concerned: de gustibus et coloribus...
But, out of sheer curiosity: apart from CCMT, which wargames (past or present) would you say come closest to your desires? |
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But in fact why this update must be not free for CC community? |
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