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#1: Superb & agressive AI hats off to the developers! Author: BobbyDazzler, Location: Manchester

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:27 am
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i have to express the utmost praise to the developers for this mod, the AI engine that you guys have used is brutally agressive, after nearly 10 years of playing CC, I have finally found a mod that offers a genuine challenge and is a joy to play!! for so long i have despaired at the poor quality AI found in other mods, so often i have to switch the monitor off and wait for a battle to end because the AI doesnt do anything, lets face it realism and historical accuracy are the most meaningful determinants of a mods quality, not how many tanks you can smash against each other.. along with Der Kessel mod this is truly a worthwhile mod and I absolutely reccomend that all CC fans dedicate this mod some serious time!!

many thanks to the developers Smile

Bob

#2: Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:25 pm
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where have I heard that before?

#3: Author: Searry, Location: Finland

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:38 pm
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I agree with the OP.

#4: Author: Sapa,

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:26 pm
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schrecken wrote:

where have I heard that before?

:prostration

/Mats

#5: Author: Tippi-Simo, Location: Helsinki

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:55 pm
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Hehhehe!!

#6: Author: BobbyDazzler, Location: Manchester

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:16 pm
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point taken colonel schreckel, suppose it was a little naive of me to forget that thers ppl like yourself who have ample time on their hands to browse cc forums at 2 in the morning and read every post thats made..

sorry mate, maybe i ll ask you next time before i make a post Laughing

#7: Author: dgfred, Location: N.C., USA

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:31 pm
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BobbyDazzler wrote:

point taken colonel schreckel, suppose it was a little naive of me to forget that thers ppl like yourself who have ample time on their hands to browse cc forums at 2 in the morning and read every post thats made..

sorry mate, maybe i ll ask you next time before i make a post Laughing

Don't let it bother you Dazzler. The coding in pzjager's mods is amazing, I wish some other mods (Battle of Berlin, Normandy, etc) could get some of the same kind of AI aggressiveness. I enjoy playing defensive battles the most and many times I've just waited for the timer to run out, because the
AI's units just sit in the same spot the entire 15 minutes Mad

#8: Author: ZAPPI4, Location: Belgium Liege

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:16 pm
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Play H2H if u want a real challenge

#9: Author: BobbyDazzler, Location: Manchester

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:27 pm
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i couldnt agree more..good to hear that other ppl agree on the issue, i ll certainly have to look at some H2H with real ppl on the other end

bob

#10: Author: ZAPPI4, Location: Belgium Liege

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:30 pm
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Well IA may be good as you want,
it cant be as serious opponents as any CC Human veteran

#11: Author: dgfred, Location: N.C., USA

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:41 pm
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ZAPPI4 wrote:

Play H2H if u want a real challenge

I get my challenges where and when I want them.... some people
don't have the time or inclination to play H2H for their own reasons.
What is the problem with liking the way this mod AI was done, besides
the personal issues that is???

#12: Author: ZAPPI4, Location: Belgium Liege

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:46 pm
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? Not sure to follow you. Does i was agressif when i replyed?

As u said you v got your challenge where and when u want,
U would say, "and how i want."
There is no problemo to play the game than u prefer.
I said, whatever the mod is, A CC human veteran will always beat an IA.
I never saw an IA agressive as veteran player.

#13: Author: dgfred, Location: N.C., USA

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:53 pm
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Everyone knows a human opponent is better than the AI.

I was saying some people can not play or do not want to play H2H for time
or other reasons.

I was only stating how this mod is fun/good because of the aggressive AI.

I was hoping that other mods would be able to produce the same aggressiveness by the AI.

#14: Author: ZAPPI4, Location: Belgium Liege

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:59 pm
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Well, a lot of people who play only IA
are playing it because many other things than
the only way than they prefer for time issue ir so.
A lot of them dont get a good connection,
or at least things they dont get.
Or they dont know where to play.
They dont know how to play.
They have firewall problm.
And many other things

#15: Author: dgfred, Location: N.C., USA

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:03 pm
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Exactly.

But we were discussing the aggressive AI and how much we liked it.

You jumped in and stated- 'If you want a real challenge play H2H', which
was not what we were discussing.

#16: Author: BobbyDazzler, Location: Manchester

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:05 pm
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i agree time constraints are a problem, but after weighing up the arguments for and against ive installed gameranger so i ll get the chance to play some real ppl and give you guys my verdict..

#17: Author: ZAPPI4, Location: Belgium Liege

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:06 pm
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Well, u were speaking about agressive IA...

The agressivity of your opponent ( the IA) was on the table.
I said to myself, well, maybe this guy dont get th etime to play H2H
and then maybe he dont know How a human can be agressive ...
Then i feel myself obligated to reoply to tell him...
If i was out of subject, i dont guess.
If i'm not welcome to your post, yes i guess.
That's 2 different things Wink

Anyways, sorry, Dgfred ... Dont hit, dont hit

#18: Author: dgfred, Location: N.C., USA

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:12 pm
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ZAPPI4 wrote:

Well, u were speaking about agressive IA...

The agressivity of your opponent ( the IA) was on the table.
I said to myself, well, maybe this guy dont get th etime to play H2H
and then maybe he dont know How a human can be agressive ...
Then i feel myself obligated to reoply to tell him...
If i was out of subject, i dont guess.
If i'm not welcome to your post, yes i guess.
That's 2 different things Wink

Anyways, sorry, Dgfred ... Dont hit, dont hit

No problems pal : Cool

. You are welcome to my post anytime Very Happy

.
I've played CC2 online since it came out, and played CC5 a few times
online too. I like campaigns, but my time and my opponent's time is
usually limited.
Thanks anyway for trying to help.

#19: Author: BobbyDazzler, Location: Manchester

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:12 pm
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you guys make very valid points, everyone knows that going against a real human opponent will always present the greatest challenge to a player, buy for someone like myself who likes a quick couple games when i come in from work, i am deeply impressed with the AI in these mods, theyre very challenging and as close to showing the tactical initiative of online opponents i have played, again i thank the developers for all their efforts on creating this AI..

#20: Author: ZAPPI4, Location: Belgium Liege

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:35 pm
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dgfred wrote:

What is the problem with liking the way this mod AI was done, besides
the personal issues that is???

Hum.

Than i dont like a moder personnaly is nothing about if i d like his work.
I suppose u are closer than Pzjager to speak like this.

If this question was posted by bobby on another mod forum, i replyed
as i did. There is nothing about my Pzjager personall feeling

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